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dpcpro
5th March 2003, 18:55
I import the video asset into Maestro and after a few seconds it says ok and displays the duration of the movie as 00:00:00;01. When I drag the video file into the movie timeline it thinks the movie is only 1 second long or so.
The movie is Barbershop and is about 1 hour and 48 minutes long. I demuxed the files from the VOBs using (DVD Decryptor and SmartRipper). At first I had a problem with the audio, Maestro gave me an error saying inconsistent bitrates, but I fixed that using BeSweet. Now I am having this video issue.
If change the file extension from m2v to mp2 and play it in media player, it plays fine and is obviously longer than 1 second.
I have authored about 50 movies so far and never had this problem!
Has anyone run into these problems and know how to fix them?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks.
dpcpro
I had this problem once when the main movie was in the middle off a mulipgc vob set . Only way I could get the proper time was to pass it through cce , but there must be a way to regenerate time codes
Anyone ?
dpcpro
10th March 2003, 17:49
I finally figured it out:
Maestro reported 1 second long video. So I stripped out Chapter 1/ Cell 1 which was only 1 second and contained nothing. That made the video import to 1:27 which still wasn't correct because the movie is 1:42. So I looked at the movie around the 1:27 mark and Chapter 29 had 2 cell ids and also used diff vob ids. So I demuxed Chapter 2 - 29 (cell id 29) for video and audio. Then I demuxed Chapter 29 (cell id 30) - Chapter 33 for video and audio. This gave me 2 m2vs and 2 ac3s. I imported these into Maestro into the same movie timeline and recreated the chapters manually, compiled and burned. Works great.
This also fixed the inconsistent bitrate problem I was having with the ac3 file when importing into Maestro.
Since this, I also did Deuces Wild which had the same problem, it imported as 1 second into Maestro. So I demuxed without cell id 1 and it worked.
This must be some kind of copy protection scheme.
Anyways I hope this helps others out.
I'm sure these aren't the only movies like this.
And I'm sure I'm not the only one having these problems.
dpcpro
Eyes`Only
11th March 2003, 17:51
No copy protection. No weirdness whatsoever. This is a simple case of a user not understanding what multiple PGC is, and/or how to reauthor one. You just lucked out with Barbershop because you removed the first PGC and PGC2 was the movie. Aimlessly removing PGCs and such is never going to make you understand the methods though. :)
In order to get a handle on multipgc, Read Doom9's Scenarist guide or Trilight's Uberguide and you won't make these mistakes again.
And no, others don't have this problem, unless they also don't understand what multiple PGC means, and if they followed one of the above guides, they understand the theory and usage of multipgc completely. And both titles you mentioned are VERY easy to do using either guide. I backed up my Barbershop DVD a couple hours without a single problem and it plays perfectly, with the menu and all extras intact (and great looking!).
I've also moved this thread (along with several others, sheesh no one seems to ask advanced questions anymore yet everyone posts in the advanced section!) since it is in no way a candidate for Advanced DVD Authoring.
dpcpro
11th March 2003, 18:31
I might be off track but that's why you're here to help!
When you say multi-pgc do you also mean multi-angle?
I don't remember for Barbershop, but for Deuces Wild, there were multi-pgc's. I just select the PGC that I am interested in and let DVD Decryptor demux the audio and video for that PGC only. Then when I imported this file into Maestro, it recognized it as being 1 second long in duration. This PGC didn't contain multiple angles. Am I doing this correctly? If not how should it be done? (details please)
I took a look at the multiangle guides on doom9 but am confused to how these reflect upon what I am doing since I am not using multiple angles.
Maybe I just need you to explain it a little further, if you don't mind!
Thanks.
dpcpro
Eyes`Only
11th March 2003, 19:18
In order to get a handle on multipgc, Read Doom9's Scenarist guide or Trilight's Uberguide and you won't make these mistakes again.
I didn't mention multi-angle.
The main VTS of Barbershop contains 2 PGCs, one of which is only 10 seconds long.
I showed you the guides, read and follow those and you'll be enlightened.
I don't usually help people that do main-movie butchering, so I'm pointing you to the correct way to do this title. Yes, it involves more work. Yes it doesn't involve just 'ripping one pgc'. Yes it gives you a much better result.
dpcpro
12th March 2003, 15:14
I read the guides. It looks like in some cases with multi-pgc movies you have to rip by VOBID instead of PGC. But doesn't this produce multiple m2vs (because its seperating by VOBID) that you have to re-author anyways. In my case I ripped by cell ids which kind of produced the same results for what I want to accomplish.
Am I missing something???
I am not interested in full backups unless they are single layer DVDs. I rather use the space for extra movie quality.
Thanks.
dpcpro
Eyes`Only
12th March 2003, 17:50
You can rip by all three methods depending on the .ifo format. Yes, in some cases vobid demux would be the correct way to go, but usually demuxing by PGC will work fine.
Kilyan
21st March 2003, 14:48
Hy!
I see you can deal with multipgc easely. Not so am I. I have an acdc ntsc dvd "stiff upper lip". Smartripper shows 4 pgc-s, each has the same length 2 hour and more. same lbas for each chapter, same cell number, length everything. I don't know what that means. Which should I rip to harddisk?
I have built up all my dvd knowledge from doom9 site, but this time I am confused or in lack of knowledge.
Same for the multiangle part didn't found any description for multiangle handling with cce and maestro (not using ifoedit and scenarist). I don't know where to start. I loaded the vtsx.ifo in ifoedit to see for multiangle but I don't know what to choose in smartrpper to rip. I suppose I have to rip angle 1 fully, and the others only the video part but don't know which.
Thanks in advance for your answer
dpcpro
21st March 2003, 15:50
Looks like you are going to re-author. Does the video need to be re-encoded? If not then demux by PGC or VOBID. (If the same VOBID is listed in multiple PGCs, looks like you will have to rip by VOBID.)
If it's multi-angle then rip only the angle you are interested in (demuxing if the video doesn't have to be re-encoded).
Use DVD Decryptor.
Eyes`Only, maybe you could assist.
dpcpro
Kilyan
23rd March 2003, 01:08
Yes video needs to bee reencoded.
I'll try to demux by pgc in first round, then I'll post.
Thanks
Btw, in ntsc If I remember well, I have to go from 29.97 to 23.97 encode, then 23.97->29.97. Smartipper told me that this Acdc is 30 frames/s, same method here too?
Bruce Leroy
29th November 2003, 01:19
I am having a problem with xmen 2 region 1. I ripped it, ran it through dvd2avi, loaded d2v into vapi codec converter to get avi, and loaded avi into cce (robshot method) everything seemed ok...until i loaded into maestro. The video was 2 hours 40 min while sound was only 2:13. The movie only has one pgc and one angle. How do we handle this. I checked the chapter list to see if there were any long chapters that were not in the scene selection list... there weren't. ifo shows that each chapter belongs to the movie... so i'm stumpted.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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