What is ReAuthorist?

[dssgorila]

I hope someone makes a nice guide with screenshots of doitfast, docce4u and reauthorist in one tutorial, any of you pros willing to take this on.. :)

[ShaneZ]

Originally posted by dssgorila
I hope someone makes a nice guide with screenshots of doitfast, docce4u and reauthorist in one tutorial, any of you pros willing to take this on.. :)

If I am not mistaken (and I can be), Doom9 is waiting for the initial public release of RA before redoing the DoItFast Guide.

Shane

[Doom9]

indeed.. don't worry, the day RA is publicly released you'll have your guide. And basically it's just ripping out the Scenarist part of the current guide and replace it with very few instructions.. the rest of the way is already laid out in the current guide.

[dssgorila]

i love this place :)

[jerschwab]

Just wondering if in reauthorist, do I hit "Author It" before or after I encode?? it's worked for me when i create the scripts before... but i'm not sure if this is right?! I read the Readme and what I could in this forum (I have read everything, maybe not all of it stuck in my melon!).

This is the part in the Readme that is unclear to me:

6. Click on Encode to launch DoCCE4U and create your re-encoded files

7. Import the ReAuthorist.SCP script into Scenarist

At what point should I create the scripts? Or should Reauthorist create the scripts after DoCCE4U is complete?

I have backed up several movies creating the scripts before DoCCE4U, but I'm not sure if that's right (or why it would even matter).

THANKS GUYS!!

[Rack]

Hi, If you followed ReAuthorist from its early betas you'll be familiar with it and you'll know what to do :)

6. Click on Encode to launch DoCCE4U and create your re-encoded files

6a. Click on Authore it (After DoCCE4U is finished)

7.Import the ReAuthorist.SCP script into Scenarist

I hope that will help you ;)

Rack.

[Fmazzanti]

But whay after DoCCE4U? Incidentally once I created the authoring file before DoCCE4U and then once again after the encoding was done, and I got the same result... Anyone can explain why should it be pressed after DoCCE4U?

[influenza]

I don't think the moment is importatnt. As far as I can can see the program just looks for m2v/mpv files and creates a script for it. I f you didn't encode the movie yet your project will be to big to fit on dvd-r that's all.

[aquabubble]

Originally posted by Fmazzanti
But whay after DoCCE4U? Incidentally once I created the authoring file before DoCCE4U and then once again after the encoding was done, and I got the same result... Anyone can explain why should it be pressed after DoCCE4U?

Actually, it makes no difference whether you press it before or after. Ideally the SCP should be created at the same time as the encoding starts, but for flexibility I allow the encoding and the script creation to be done separately.

[SkoalWintergreen]

Does Reauthorist support forced Subtitles?? I was just curious I'm about to get started on Lord of the Rings and I know that needs forced subs during the Evilsh speaking parts.

[aquabubble]

Originally posted by SkoalWintergreen
Does Reauthorist support forced Subtitles?? I was just curious I'm about to get started on Lord of the Rings and I know that needs forced subs during the Evilsh speaking parts.

Absolutely - so long as you rip the subs with dif4u, it will set all the forced subs automatically for you.

[Fmazzanti]

Hey!
I asked that before but didn't get an answer, so I try it again :D According to aqua's instructions, once the Scenarist stuff is done, one should run IfoUpdate on the resulting ifos. Well, the question is: in which mode? Standard? Adjust Cell mode? Does it depend on the VTS, if it has several PGCs or not, etc etc as when you do it 'by hand'?
Help appreciated, you DVD gurus :D :D

[ShaneZ]

Originally posted by Fmazzanti
Hey!
I asked that before but didn't get an answer, so I try it again :D According to aqua's instructions, once the Scenarist stuff is done, one should run IfoUpdate on the resulting ifos. Well, the question is: in which mode? Standard? Adjust Cell mode? Does it depend on the VTS, if it has several PGCs or not, etc etc as when you do it 'by hand'?
Help appreciated, you DVD gurus :D :D

You just need to run IFOUpdate in Standard mode.

Shane

[DVDHack]

Are we there yet ????

Any update on when it will be released?

I'm not impatient, really I'm not !!

[toolman2k]

I have read trilights guide...but it doesnt mention encoding of menu's....i think it just keep the original menus right ? but what if you have like huge 1GB moving menus....can it be encoded also ?

[Fmazzanti]

If there's a 1Gb menu, I guess that's mostly because it comes in many languages. You should then consider stripping off unwanted menu languages with IfoEdit. And in case it is just a one language menu... man! What kind of menues are there in your dvds :p ? In that case I would simply consider removing completely the menu and creating a new one with Maestro or Scenarisr, or even transcoding the original one with tools like InstantCopy or so... what I would not do by any means is to suck one whole Gigabyte from a DVD-R for a menu. After all, menues are nice but just a transient thing that leads you to what you wanna see (the movie), isn't it?

[toolman2k]

i had several dvd's with big menu vobs..like bourne identity has a 900mb menu or something.....anyway, I tried reauthorist and stuff....but where can i read about how to rip with dif4u? do i need to vobsub all on all pgc's ? and why does reauthorist take so long to process files ? is it normal that it makes like thousands of dummy ac3's ? that is what its doing now....i dont think thats correct though....

[Eyes`Only]

....but where can i read about how to rip with dif4u?

Doom9 has a 'doitfast-guide' in his guides section.

[toolman2k]

yes i know,however......its about how to set it so reauhorist can take it.anyway, i set it to create auto create folder for eacht vts and to process vobsub all on each pgc.

it seeems reauthorist accepts it, however it looks like its not responding.....when i look in the logfile it says it making dummy ac3's.....but many houndreds...is that ok ?

[Doom9]

@toolman: the settings in the guide should work for reauthorist, after writing the guide I used the same setup to make two reauthorist projects and they worked just fine. If the darned codec comparison gives me some time off I will write a guide for beta testers.

[toolman2k]

thanks doom.i look forward to it! but what about those hundreds of dummy ac3's ? is that normal ? i mean it looks like reauthorist is not responding anymore...but it is busy for sure....

[aquabubble]

Originally posted by toolman2k
it seeems reauthorist accepts it, however it looks like its not responding.....when i look in the logfile it says it making dummy ac3's.....but many houndreds...is that ok ?

Hmmm.... you may have found a little bug. I think I know what it might be, but if you email me your log file I will take a look at it for you.

[toolman2k]

ok thanks.I will have to start over again, since i deleted all the files....I will try again and send you the log.

[toolman2k]

does anyone know how can verify that reauthorist is taking all (non processed) files into account when setting enconding settings ? im doing tombraider now, but it says "video_ts=0mb" this looks weird to me, isnt it supposed to put the size of the untouched files there? i mean im encoding now....but i wouldnt like it if i found out that in the end the size is too big.....

if this is not correct, then how can i fix it ?


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ok aquabubble just mailed me....I guess im just a stupid newbie not knowing i had to set dif4u make a folder with unused files...silly me:)

[dssgorila]

can someone help me ive done the entire project and the menu doesnt come up it plays straight to the movie.

[VerbaL]

Did you do a Get VTS sectors in IfoEdit at the end? I had the same problem yesterday and I forgot to do that step.

[toolman2k]

ok, i finally have all my files ready to be updated by ifoupdate.....i might be doing something wrong(i hope so) but after reading guides by both trilight and doom i did this:

- i had my final folder with all files copied over from the mounted iso that needed no updating, so basically all vobs ifos bups,except the VOBs(just the vobs) that needed reencoding.
<i forgot to let dif4u make a video_ts folder with unused vts's,thats why i had to do this by hand>

- then i copied all my authored VOBs(only vobs) to this folder

- i ran ifoupdate, with (correct options set in standard mode), pointing to the original (copied from mounted iso to the final folder) ifo's that needed updating (so only the ones I had reauthored) and the authored ones, these were about 5 or so....

- then i did vts correct

now when i play the video_ts in powerdvd, it locks up, black screen, and my HD starts to make noise....but nothing happens it just freezes.

does anyone know what to do? im desperate here! i got it all working...with the cool tool reauthorist.....but now it doesnt play correct.:(

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OK i found out what it is.......I forgot to copy all the vts*_0.vob 's to the final folder....better let dif4u do it for me next time:) but now i have an oversized dvd...so i have to figure out how to smartly reduce a part of the video to make it all fit without having to reencode all again, but thats just a puzzle that i know can be resolved :)

[dssgorila]

ok i got the whole reddraggon project done i tested it on powerdvd and it works sweet i checked to see if the chapter menus where sync
and they were. I then burned the dvd and try to watch it on the standalone player and it froze at the warning. I remebered that i forgot to do the vts sector update. Is there anyway to extract the dvd i burned and corect and reburn, ive deleted the encoded project and i dont want to start all over. Can anyone help me.

Thanks in advance.

[Ripe73]

Rip the dvd with DVDdec(all files) and then choose get VTS sectors
with IFOedit and reburn it

[Fmazzanti]

If I'm not wrong that's the *simplest* thing in the world: just put your burned dvd in the dvd drive and copy its contents to a folder :D
Then do what you want with it. Burned dvd's have copy protection removed, so that's why it is so simple. Then do Get VTS sectors and voila!

[dssgorila]

It worked i tried and it works. This excellent Reauthorist, DoCCE4u and DoITFAST4u all kick ass keep up the goodwork guys. Everyone who helped me thanks. Im going to work on some more projects.

[dssgorila]

all we need now is a list of movies that can and cannot be done with the "Big 3"

[toolman2k]

maybe tombraider cant be done :( please look into here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51975

[jerschwab]

Tombraider was one of the first DVD's I did with Reauthorist. Worked pretty well actually.

[dssgorila]

i havent tried tombraider and im not to experienced to help with your problem sorry. Has anyone done resident evil ive done the project til the scenarist part when i try to compile the movie in scenarist i get an error and scenarist shuts down a dialog comes stating that scenarist has generated some errors.

[brashquido]

No idea sorry, perhaps send your ReAuthourist log and/or ReAuthourist.scp file to aquabubbles bugfix address so he can have a look?

[toolman2k]

ok people ...it was my drive being bad! i just now burnt a working backup of tombraider with my new a05 :) thanks all for the help and thanks aquabubble for making this great tool !

[toolman2k]

why doesnt reauthorist set the encoding properties right in the ECL it makes ? i mean, i checked the orignal video specs...but reauthorist set its all wrong, like putting it at linear while source is non linear etc....also, i wonder why it doesnt set topfield first off, since its know to be buggy....CCE always encodes topfield first no matter what u set.....but if you do set it, errors may occur like black lines in bottom of video......anyway, its not hard to chage it all to make it right, but it would save time if you have like 20 or so itmes to encode...just my thoughts.

bte, i dont like docce4u, since it doesnt give me the control i need over the encoding, like setting the image priority.

[aquabubble]

@toolman2k

When I first started designing RA, I intended one day to detect these properties and set them correctly. However, when I heard that BBWoof would be building his tool, I stopped my research and left these things to the expert. Therefore, unfortunately RA does not detect and set any of the video properties apart from those controlling the bitrate.

Give DoCCE4U some time and it will eventually become much more intelligent. In my opinion, it's no longer RA's place to do this and for the foreseeable future, I will be doing no more work on the ECL files - sorry! :)

[69Mws]

I had the chance to watch this tool in action and it's very impressive.

As far as I saw, RA creates dummy-mpv's for the Titlesets, that were not checked in DIF4U.

Regarding to Trilight's Guide, there must also be Dummy Files for Audio.

Now my question is, are dummy-audio files necessary at all or are dummy-mpv's sufficent to "uphold the integrity of the original structure" (nice expression, eh? :D )

If so, is it planned that RA creates automatically these dummy-audios?

Although it doesn't really need to "create" dummy-files, 'cause in the DIF4U-Guide@doom9 are already Trilight's dummy-audios to download, which could be "simply" copied and renamed by RA when needed, as far as a path can be set in RA which points to the location of the dummy-audio files.

Maybe you could also add me to your "Beta Testing Group", I'd really appreciate that :)

69mws@myrealbox.com

Greetz
69Mws

[whaqatac]

Aquabubble, Sounds like your developing a great tool.

I would like to be able to give you feedback with the rest of your testers on ReAuthorist if you email the beta to me.

Thanks

Whaqatac@hotmail.com

[toolman2k]

hmmm....i just had my scenarist crashing:(

this is the case: i encoded my extras at half resolution......so the first time scenarist gives an error saying the video resolution is different.that was resolved by editing the frame sizes in the .scp script of reauthorist....but now at the very end it just crashes scenarist.

anybody an idea why ?

[Eyes`Only]

half resolution == YUCK.

At 1850, your extras are already less than 50% their original size, at 1750 they are well below. You can EASILY lower the size of your extras without resulting to drastic measures like decreasing the video resolution! Isn't the whole objective to obtain a near-original likeness?

[toolman2k]

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
half resolution == YUCK.

At 1850, your extras are already less than 50% their original size, at 1750 they are well below. You can EASILY lower the size of your extras without resulting to amateurish antics like decreasing the video resolution! Isn't the whole objective to obtain a near-original likeness?

'nuff said.

yes but in my case i had to do it like that to avoid blockiness and to keep main movie at respectable size of original.Its really crap the xtras at 1800.i rather have a softer less blocky picture then a sharper one with blocks all over.in my opinion it comes closer to original then just putting crappy full size video on the disc.

[Eyes`Only]

Can't imagine where you're getting that opinion from. Are you only doing 1 pass or something (that 1 pass theory is just total BS when it comes to DVDr)? Just an example, I backed up Charlie's Angels R1 the other day.. after mounting the reauthored .iso, and testing it on PC before burning, I watched some extras, and damn if I didn't have to doublecheck to make sure that I didn't have the original .iso mounted! I seriously couldn't tell the difference. 1850 w/5pass CCE.

[toolman2k]

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
Can't imagine where you're getting that opinion from. Are you only doing 1 pass or something (that 1 pass theory is just total BS when it comes to DVDr)? Just an example, I backed up Charlie's Angels R1 the other day.. after mounting the reauthored .iso, and testing it on PC before burning, I watched some extras, and damn if I didn't have to doublecheck to make sure that I didn't have the original .iso mounted! I seriously couldn't tell the difference. 1850 w/5pass CCE.

i tried that too, but its too blocky...its crap.i like it softer and less blocky.....its alot more appealing to the eye than blocks all over the place.maybe its the quality of the source or something, but it looks crap to me.

so i like it this way better...so give me an answer to my question and respect my opinion as a regular dvd backupper trying to get my stuff working in the way I want it, dont talk to me like im stupid....i know what im doing.i just need help to get the halfsized video working and not crashing.thats all.unless you have a magical way to make the quality better, so that I like it also and not just you, try to help me with my script/scenarist:)

[Eyes`Only]

I apologize and have edited my original posting.

As for helping you with your script/scenarist, I think you have posted in the right thread,
If you have successfully reauthored others using your techniques manually in Scenarist, it sounds like a RA issue/feature.

Whether he's going to be willing to support such unorthodox techniques is up to him. Even Doom9 doesn't agree with reducing the size of video, as is evident in thread http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=287719
where someone else brought up this notion and he says well.. I think when Eyes came up with the line "tools for doing full DVD backup the way it's supposed to be" and I made it the forum motto I think we both meant that the way it's supposed to be = 720x480/576.

[toolman2k]

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
I apologize and have edited my original posting.

As for helping you with your script/scenarist, I think you have posted in the right thread,
If you have successfully reauthored others using your techniques manually in Scenarist, it sounds like a RA issue/feature.

Whether he's going to be willing to support such unorthodox techniques is up to him. Even Doom9 doesn't agree with reducing the size of video, as is evident in thread http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=287719
where someone else brought up this notion and he says

its ok man.i found out that it a needed .mpv was named .m2v.....so thats why it crashed....however it now have a problem when compiling, its saying "nr of frames in vobu is less than 10..." bla bla ....and then it crashes......any idea how this can be resolved ?

[turtle]

just wondering if i could get a hold of reauthorist? if not, thanks anyways.

-turtle
lookturtle@aol.com

[nlphillips]

I've been trying to get RA as well. I read further up in this thread that it is available on IRC.... but what with me being a total moron and not knowing what I'm doing on IRC, I can't get it. Oh well.