zardiw
2nd March 2003, 05:57
Split DVD to 2 discs FIXES. (Illegal navigation command, 'stopped', etc.). (Mini Guide)
Well, from what I've gone through, I figure this forum needs this. I'm probably going to 'DVD2One' most of my DVD's, but special ones I want to split with all menu's/special features, so I had to figure out how to do this. It's been kind of time consuming, and there's a lot to learn, so hopefully this mini guide will save others some grief.
This all applys to your basic movie. Some movies are more complicated, and I'll address those when I do one.
There are plenty of guides and instructions for doing the split to 2 discs, so please read those first, and then the following fixes will make more sense. This is just to help solve problems. Read the documentation on www.IfoEdit.com too (click 'About' in IfoEdit)
IfoEdit Stuff:
First off, when you hit "DVD Play" (which you should do EVERY time after you make any changes and BEFORE
you start burning, because if it doesn't play in IfoEdit, guess what? It won't in your player either)
......and you get a warning that says "No Valid DVD-Video volume could be found"...... (all this means is that there's no DVD in your DVD drive, which doesn't apply if you are editing files on your hard drive)
IGNORE IT........
and continue (now that one had me going for a day or so, cause I thought I'd fuc@ed up somehow). I learned this from some obscure post somewhere (THANKS, whoever you are). I think there should be some extra wording in there so people don't think they screwed up, or maybe it should go away permanently. But then again, I'm not that far along, so maybe it has a purpose down the line........
IfoEdit is a GREAT program, and does just what it's name says: It lets you edit (change) '.IFO' files, and .IFO files control how your
DVD disc plays. So after you make changes, you have to SAVE!....BUT, when it asks 'Do you want to save it as a .BUP as well?, cover your ass and say NO. That way if it screws up and you want to make sure you go back to where you were, you can just use the .BUP to re-create (copy, rename, etc.) your original IFO file, since the respective .IFO and .BUP files are identical. You can also just say yes to the save .BUP question, as long as you have the original files in another folder for recovering if you screw up.
You want IfoEdit to split the VOB/IFO/BUP files that belong to the MOVIE. This is the title set that has the most files and is the LARGEST in size. Usually it's VTS_01.VOB/IFO/BUP, but sometimes it's VTS_02 or some other VTS_xx. So, you have to find the biggest set (usually the one with the most .VOB's), and that's the one whose .IFO file (VTS_xx.0.IFO) you open in IfoEdit, and split into two discs. It's the .VOB files that actually get split, because that's where the movie is located.
So, the first thing you do is open the VIDEO_TS.IFO (this is the file you ALWAYS open when you're doing the DVDPlay test) that's in your 'source' directory, (the one that DeCrypter put them in). Then hit DVD Play, and click on the 'Play Movie' item of the screen. Let it play a few minutes into the movie, and then hit Exit. The little screen that then comes up shows you which VTS_xx files were played. Most of the time it's just one, i.e. VTS_01 (the main movie), but sometimes it's VTS_01 and some other VTS_xx's. In any case, whichever VTS_xx's are shown in the little screen, are the ones that need to be in disc 1. Otherwise, you'll get the 'illegal navigation' command. That's because it's trying to read something that isn't there! For example, if the little screen says the ones that played are VTS_01 (the movie) and VTS_02 (usually the movie company's logo). You'd split VTS_01 with IfoEdit, and then actually copy/move all the VTS_02 files to disc 1 after the split.
IfoEdit will open 2 directories (disc1 and disc2) where you tell it to, and put the split files there. Make sure that the directory/folder where you want the disc1 and disc2 folders is empty, since IfoEdit will say 'Failed to create directory' if you have disc1 or disc2 folders in there from previous splits.
IfoEdit will now split the .VOB files, create new .IFO/.BUP files for each disc, and also create separate 'VIDEO_TS.VOB/IFO/BUP' files on each disc.
When it's done splitting, close it.
The extra features, etc. are in the "other" VOB/IFO/BUP files. What this means is that after IfoEdit is done splitting, you have to actually COPY those other IFO/VOB/BUP files to whichever disc you want the extra features on. If you want to be able to go to special features from either disc, then you have to copy those files to BOTH discs. If you want just the second half of the movie on the second disc and the special features on the first disc, you only have to copy the "other" files to the first disc. And if you want just the first part of the movie on the first disc and the second part with the special features on the second disk, then you have to copy the other files to the second disc. Basically you have to copy whatever files IfoEdit didn't process to either just the first disc or the second disc, or both discs. This is simply all files (VTS_02_x.IFO/BUP/VOB, VTS_03_x.IFO/BUP/VOB, etc.) that are in the source directory, but not on disc 1 or 2.
Now IfoEdit will split at the 'layer' level of the disc by default. This will put most of the movie on the first disc, and give you room on the second disc for the special features/'other files'. If you want the 'other files' on the first/both discs, you'll have to split at an earlier chapter. One of the other guides has a calculation for determining where to split it so you can put the special features on either/both discs. Or you can just experiment. I've been lucky at finding a good split point so far (I'll shoot for a Chapter about 3/4 of the total number of chapters, if the special features are large, and I only want them on disk 2, for example). Remember that you only have 4.7 gigs on each disc (The limit is about 4.38 gigs in the folder you are going to burn, ...cause there's 2 ways of looking at a 'gig'...lol)
If you are short of disc space, you can MOVE (right click drag gives you that option) the 'other' files to disc 1 for example, and then after you get done burning it, you can MOVE them to disc 2 to burn that one(assuming you want them on both discs). Moving won't take up any more disc space, and doesn't take any time. Just keep track of what is in each folder.
After you copy the 'other' files, restart IfoEdit, open VIDEO_TS.IFO of the disc you copied the 'other' files to, and hit the 'Get VTS Sectors' button. This will synch the split files with the copied files and make them all work as one again. You have to do this for BOTH discs. IfoEdit will automatically save all the .IFO files, so you won't have to do a separate 'Save' if all you're doing is the VTS Sectors deal.
Now, I owe Josh (big time) for the solution to this second glitch.
'DVD Warning: An illegal navigation command was encountered.'
(There's an explanation on the IfoEdit Guide page now as well: http://www.ifoedit.com/ Go to 'guides'), that explains why this happens:
Here's the steps I had taken:
The first thing I did was OPEN the VIDEO_TS.IFO file, that was in the directory/folder that DVD DeCrypter put it in. (Our 'source' directory)
Then I hit DVD PLAY.
Everything was working fine, so I opened VTS_01_0.IFO (the .IFO for the movie), and did the 'split' function. (See the other guides for this)
Then I copied the 'other' files to disc1(this added the special features to disc 1), did the Get VTS Sectors, and hit DVD PLAY again. What I got was the FBI warning, then the logo, and instead of a menu coming up, I got the dreaded 'illegal navigation' warning.
I looked everywhere for a solution, and finally found a post by Josh buried somewhere.
I'm going to expand the process a bit and make it easier for newbies to do.
Remember that IfoEdit is an great editing program and don't be intimidated by these instructions.
1. Open the VIDEO_TS.IFO file in disc 1.
2. Click on the VMGM_MAT line in the TOP window (the second line from the top).
3. Either click on the +, or hit your right arrow, to expand that line.
4. Click on First Play PGC.
5. Scroll down in the BOTTOM window until you get to the line that starts with [000000f4]
6. Now we're going to edit that Pre Command., so 'right' click on that line.
7. Select 'Edit Command' .
8. In the window that pops up, choose (JUMPSS_VMGM) Jump to VideoManager Menu. (We're telling it to 'jump' to the main menu right after it loads.)
9. In the little window below, select 'Title Menu' (the only choice)
10. Click on OK, and you'll see that you've actually edited an IFO file! Pretty cool huh?
11. Now do what??????? SAVE it!......BUT when it asks 'Do you want to save it as a BUP' as well, say NO. (If something doesn't work, just use the .BUP file to go back to the original .IFO.
Now hit DVD Play again. You'll see that you've also bypassed the FBI warning and logo and gone straight to the menu. If everything works out, save it again and this time say YES to the .BUP question).
With the above procedure you can control what the disc does when it first loads in the player. For instance, in the second disc, you can change that same Pre Command to JUMP_TT (Jump to Title), and go right to the second half of the movie. You can do the same for the first disc.
Just make sure everything works by using the DVD Play button. You can use the control panel at the bottom to jump to different chapters, etc. I like to go to the last chapter and hit fast forward to see what happens when it gets to the end. It should go to the main menu if everything is working right.
The last glitch I just figured out is to NOT change the number of chapters in the second disc. Otherwise you won't be able to jump to the next chapter(s). For that matter, I don't change the number of chapters in the first disk anymore either.
Now on to burning...........................
I've burned 3 split discs so far. Used latest Nero 5.5.10.7b. Burning as a Data DVD worked(using HP DVD200E, DVD+R's, Apex AD-660 player), but there's some weird glitches. For instance it would just sit there burning really SLOWLY, but when I opened up some other program (to go online), it just took off........I'll share more when I know more......z
Well, from what I've gone through, I figure this forum needs this. I'm probably going to 'DVD2One' most of my DVD's, but special ones I want to split with all menu's/special features, so I had to figure out how to do this. It's been kind of time consuming, and there's a lot to learn, so hopefully this mini guide will save others some grief.
This all applys to your basic movie. Some movies are more complicated, and I'll address those when I do one.
There are plenty of guides and instructions for doing the split to 2 discs, so please read those first, and then the following fixes will make more sense. This is just to help solve problems. Read the documentation on www.IfoEdit.com too (click 'About' in IfoEdit)
IfoEdit Stuff:
First off, when you hit "DVD Play" (which you should do EVERY time after you make any changes and BEFORE
you start burning, because if it doesn't play in IfoEdit, guess what? It won't in your player either)
......and you get a warning that says "No Valid DVD-Video volume could be found"...... (all this means is that there's no DVD in your DVD drive, which doesn't apply if you are editing files on your hard drive)
IGNORE IT........
and continue (now that one had me going for a day or so, cause I thought I'd fuc@ed up somehow). I learned this from some obscure post somewhere (THANKS, whoever you are). I think there should be some extra wording in there so people don't think they screwed up, or maybe it should go away permanently. But then again, I'm not that far along, so maybe it has a purpose down the line........
IfoEdit is a GREAT program, and does just what it's name says: It lets you edit (change) '.IFO' files, and .IFO files control how your
DVD disc plays. So after you make changes, you have to SAVE!....BUT, when it asks 'Do you want to save it as a .BUP as well?, cover your ass and say NO. That way if it screws up and you want to make sure you go back to where you were, you can just use the .BUP to re-create (copy, rename, etc.) your original IFO file, since the respective .IFO and .BUP files are identical. You can also just say yes to the save .BUP question, as long as you have the original files in another folder for recovering if you screw up.
You want IfoEdit to split the VOB/IFO/BUP files that belong to the MOVIE. This is the title set that has the most files and is the LARGEST in size. Usually it's VTS_01.VOB/IFO/BUP, but sometimes it's VTS_02 or some other VTS_xx. So, you have to find the biggest set (usually the one with the most .VOB's), and that's the one whose .IFO file (VTS_xx.0.IFO) you open in IfoEdit, and split into two discs. It's the .VOB files that actually get split, because that's where the movie is located.
So, the first thing you do is open the VIDEO_TS.IFO (this is the file you ALWAYS open when you're doing the DVDPlay test) that's in your 'source' directory, (the one that DeCrypter put them in). Then hit DVD Play, and click on the 'Play Movie' item of the screen. Let it play a few minutes into the movie, and then hit Exit. The little screen that then comes up shows you which VTS_xx files were played. Most of the time it's just one, i.e. VTS_01 (the main movie), but sometimes it's VTS_01 and some other VTS_xx's. In any case, whichever VTS_xx's are shown in the little screen, are the ones that need to be in disc 1. Otherwise, you'll get the 'illegal navigation' command. That's because it's trying to read something that isn't there! For example, if the little screen says the ones that played are VTS_01 (the movie) and VTS_02 (usually the movie company's logo). You'd split VTS_01 with IfoEdit, and then actually copy/move all the VTS_02 files to disc 1 after the split.
IfoEdit will open 2 directories (disc1 and disc2) where you tell it to, and put the split files there. Make sure that the directory/folder where you want the disc1 and disc2 folders is empty, since IfoEdit will say 'Failed to create directory' if you have disc1 or disc2 folders in there from previous splits.
IfoEdit will now split the .VOB files, create new .IFO/.BUP files for each disc, and also create separate 'VIDEO_TS.VOB/IFO/BUP' files on each disc.
When it's done splitting, close it.
The extra features, etc. are in the "other" VOB/IFO/BUP files. What this means is that after IfoEdit is done splitting, you have to actually COPY those other IFO/VOB/BUP files to whichever disc you want the extra features on. If you want to be able to go to special features from either disc, then you have to copy those files to BOTH discs. If you want just the second half of the movie on the second disc and the special features on the first disc, you only have to copy the "other" files to the first disc. And if you want just the first part of the movie on the first disc and the second part with the special features on the second disk, then you have to copy the other files to the second disc. Basically you have to copy whatever files IfoEdit didn't process to either just the first disc or the second disc, or both discs. This is simply all files (VTS_02_x.IFO/BUP/VOB, VTS_03_x.IFO/BUP/VOB, etc.) that are in the source directory, but not on disc 1 or 2.
Now IfoEdit will split at the 'layer' level of the disc by default. This will put most of the movie on the first disc, and give you room on the second disc for the special features/'other files'. If you want the 'other files' on the first/both discs, you'll have to split at an earlier chapter. One of the other guides has a calculation for determining where to split it so you can put the special features on either/both discs. Or you can just experiment. I've been lucky at finding a good split point so far (I'll shoot for a Chapter about 3/4 of the total number of chapters, if the special features are large, and I only want them on disk 2, for example). Remember that you only have 4.7 gigs on each disc (The limit is about 4.38 gigs in the folder you are going to burn, ...cause there's 2 ways of looking at a 'gig'...lol)
If you are short of disc space, you can MOVE (right click drag gives you that option) the 'other' files to disc 1 for example, and then after you get done burning it, you can MOVE them to disc 2 to burn that one(assuming you want them on both discs). Moving won't take up any more disc space, and doesn't take any time. Just keep track of what is in each folder.
After you copy the 'other' files, restart IfoEdit, open VIDEO_TS.IFO of the disc you copied the 'other' files to, and hit the 'Get VTS Sectors' button. This will synch the split files with the copied files and make them all work as one again. You have to do this for BOTH discs. IfoEdit will automatically save all the .IFO files, so you won't have to do a separate 'Save' if all you're doing is the VTS Sectors deal.
Now, I owe Josh (big time) for the solution to this second glitch.
'DVD Warning: An illegal navigation command was encountered.'
(There's an explanation on the IfoEdit Guide page now as well: http://www.ifoedit.com/ Go to 'guides'), that explains why this happens:
Here's the steps I had taken:
The first thing I did was OPEN the VIDEO_TS.IFO file, that was in the directory/folder that DVD DeCrypter put it in. (Our 'source' directory)
Then I hit DVD PLAY.
Everything was working fine, so I opened VTS_01_0.IFO (the .IFO for the movie), and did the 'split' function. (See the other guides for this)
Then I copied the 'other' files to disc1(this added the special features to disc 1), did the Get VTS Sectors, and hit DVD PLAY again. What I got was the FBI warning, then the logo, and instead of a menu coming up, I got the dreaded 'illegal navigation' warning.
I looked everywhere for a solution, and finally found a post by Josh buried somewhere.
I'm going to expand the process a bit and make it easier for newbies to do.
Remember that IfoEdit is an great editing program and don't be intimidated by these instructions.
1. Open the VIDEO_TS.IFO file in disc 1.
2. Click on the VMGM_MAT line in the TOP window (the second line from the top).
3. Either click on the +, or hit your right arrow, to expand that line.
4. Click on First Play PGC.
5. Scroll down in the BOTTOM window until you get to the line that starts with [000000f4]
6. Now we're going to edit that Pre Command., so 'right' click on that line.
7. Select 'Edit Command' .
8. In the window that pops up, choose (JUMPSS_VMGM) Jump to VideoManager Menu. (We're telling it to 'jump' to the main menu right after it loads.)
9. In the little window below, select 'Title Menu' (the only choice)
10. Click on OK, and you'll see that you've actually edited an IFO file! Pretty cool huh?
11. Now do what??????? SAVE it!......BUT when it asks 'Do you want to save it as a BUP' as well, say NO. (If something doesn't work, just use the .BUP file to go back to the original .IFO.
Now hit DVD Play again. You'll see that you've also bypassed the FBI warning and logo and gone straight to the menu. If everything works out, save it again and this time say YES to the .BUP question).
With the above procedure you can control what the disc does when it first loads in the player. For instance, in the second disc, you can change that same Pre Command to JUMP_TT (Jump to Title), and go right to the second half of the movie. You can do the same for the first disc.
Just make sure everything works by using the DVD Play button. You can use the control panel at the bottom to jump to different chapters, etc. I like to go to the last chapter and hit fast forward to see what happens when it gets to the end. It should go to the main menu if everything is working right.
The last glitch I just figured out is to NOT change the number of chapters in the second disc. Otherwise you won't be able to jump to the next chapter(s). For that matter, I don't change the number of chapters in the first disk anymore either.
Now on to burning...........................
I've burned 3 split discs so far. Used latest Nero 5.5.10.7b. Burning as a Data DVD worked(using HP DVD200E, DVD+R's, Apex AD-660 player), but there's some weird glitches. For instance it would just sit there burning really SLOWLY, but when I opened up some other program (to go online), it just took off........I'll share more when I know more......z