First DVD2One, then Instant Copy, now DVD95Copy

[kilikili]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this. According to the website, this program works much like Instant Copy. There's even a demo on their website:

http://www.dvd95copy.net/

It keeps all original features, menus, audio streams, and subtitles.

Anyone play with it yet?

-kilikili

PS: I also want to add that the program is only 312k. Very tiny!

[ZeroLimit]

going to test this baby out

[mgd72]

I just tried it and I have to say that my initial tests don't look good. I tested AOTC and my results are based on viewing the menu video.

First, it doesnt give you any control over the compression of each title.

Second, It causes too much blockiness as compared to IC and DVD2One
I would say the quality is below even REMpeg.

Third, how the heck am I gonna know what the movie is gonna look like if the demo won't output the movie. I'm not about to pay $45 to find out.

Fourth, where the heck are all of these new "all-in-one" programs spilling out from? It's gonna be so easy even my dog is gonna be able to copy a DVD ;)

I plan to run more tests later, but it doesn't look like I will be spending money on this one.

Granted, this was a quick test, so maybe someone can refute these claims.

Mgd72

[nyplayer]

I am testing it on unfaithful. Which Instantcopy could not copy. It's odd its doing the whole movie. I am looking at the output as it runs.

Elapsed time 49 mins time left 101 mins.

[nyplayer]

Well I found out why it's doing the complete unfaithul movie. It seems like it treated the VTS_03_1.VOB as the main movie which it isn't so it created a dummy file. The movie is really VTS_06_1.VOB-ETc.. so its doing a full encode. Its sure is slowwwwwwww.

[Krawhitham]

The demo sure could be nice, it does everything but the main movie.

could you run this demo, then use CCE for the main movie and have all extras plus good quality on main movie?

[int 21h]

Why not use IfoUpdate if that is your intent?

[kilikili]

I wonder if the program is made by the same guys from DVD2ONE being that the file size is so small.

kilikili

[NickB]

I think the reason that the menu looked so bad is due to the fact that this program compresses the heck out of the "extras" in order to leave more room for the main movie. I think a true test of this proggy is to compare the actual movie with IC7 and DVD2ONE.

NickB

[e5p1der]

Originally posted by kilikili
I wonder if the program is made by the same guys from DVD2ONE being that the file size is so small.

kilikili

I had that same thought as I downloaded the demo! (Price is similar and file size is similar. Hmmm....) I hope it's not true since I did purchase d21 & am hoping for updates!

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[xmenxmen]

Originally posted by Krawhitham
The demo sure could be nice, it does everything but the main movie.

could you run this demo, then use CCE for the main movie and have all extras plus good quality on main movie?

Wondering the same too, but instead of CCE, just use DVD2One. If so, it would be great for more complex movies like multi pgc. Basic ones IFOUpdate will do fine.

Definitely need to test this on dvd with little to no extra to see if it run fast or not.

[Jolard]

Those who have pointed out that it is compressing the menus as much as possible are right. You can't compare the menu movie quality, since they already say their menus won't look great. It would be the movie compression that really matters anyway, so I am looking forward to seeing the results and reviews! Sounds like the only one of us who might have an idea is nyplayer, with his Unfaithful. Did it complete the whole movie? How does it look?

[nyplayer]

Jolard

What it did was treat an extra as the main movie. The quality was great on the extra. It treated the movie as an extra and compressed it so quality was bad as expected since it treated it as an extra. I bought this to the attention of the author, since then the Author of the software has fixed the detection bug.

He also stated that he will put out a demo version that will do 10 mins of the movie at the expected compression rate.

[vljenewein]

I repeated the following on another thread,but since it's so far removed from the jist of this idea or thread I put the main part of my post here. This, I hope will give some insight to how well it works from a quick trial on an older movie. It should also be tested with a "single version" movie ie. wide screen or full screen format only version to be able to better test it.

I have a bought version of DVD95COPY I got last night from www.dvd95copy.com ,from the maker/web site at DigiMagic Tech. I took one of my movies, an older one, Men In Black and did a full rip (something I really don't do as it just takes up more room) of the movie as it is required for DVD95COPY to work properly. I created 2 separeate MIB folders on my hard drive for the result to go to and let them do their thing.

This is really not a good example in one regards because my MIB movie contains both the wide screen version and full screen version on same disc. But, in another realm, this was a good example to see how well the separate movies look (DVD2ONE and DVD95COPY) with this type of set up.

DVD2ONE: choose full screen movie, title 7 from the menu of DVD2ONE at the beginnig and saved just the english, angle 1 setting. Movie come out very well, you have to look hard to find any minor flaws, and noticible, but not distracting (at least to me) in the scene near the beginning where the space craft crashes into that farmers truck.. it's a nigth scene and you need to look at the house as it's background is constant and therein lies the "problems" with those progams that have to recompress or transcode, is the constant scenery. But in all, came out acceptable for me.. quite good.

DVD95COPY: Since I got the "full meal deal" with this I get the menu in the beginning that lets me choose wide screen or full screen. Herein was it's downfall. It had to save both movies that take up obviously more space than a single movie. I choose the full screen. BTW the menus looked pretty good. Watched to movie,especially the night scene, at the farmers house where the space craft crashes into his truck. VERY noticable shifting on the house and pixilation. Even the scene inside where the woman and "man/insect/alien) talk has noticible pixilation. I don't have the high end video stuff like others so it may be enhanced (problem/pixilation). Positive thing is nice to have the menu there to choose where to go, etc. Negative is this movie has 2 different formats and has much more to transcode than a movie that almost fits onto one DVD.

I'll have to try it now with a single movie DVD that is not too overly big and take a better look. DVD95COPY did what it said to do and made 1 DVD back up with all the stuff, but, unfortunately, the main thing.. the movie... in this example, has lost a bit.

[schlaufer]

Hi,

I just downloaded the trial of dvd95copy and after read about bad looking menus, I just made a menu comparison between DVD95Copy and IC.

I took the movie "An American Werewolf in London", RC2 PAL, and transcoded it with both programs. There where not many chooses in DVD95Copy, so I did the tweaking on the IC side and moved the quality slider for all titles to the far left (30%) and deselected the main movie title.

American Werewolf has a fair amouunt of menus and extras (2,41 GB without the main movie), so both programs took over an hour to do their job (did not stop it, sorry).

The results where 850 MB with IC7 and 768 MB with DVD95Copy. The image "quality" of the extras from IC7 was really bad, blocks and pixels everywhere. In contrast, the output of DVD95Copy was fair good, given the size constraints, quite normal VideoCD quality, sometimes slightly better.

The menus had slightly better image quality on DVD95Copy but they ripped the sound off the menus! And "An American Werewolf in London" definitely has to start with "Bad Moon Rising". ;) So I took the intro from IC7 ripped off the copyright warnings with IfoEdit and pasted it into the output of DVD95Copy. So I have still 3.7 GB room left for the main movie with extras in reasonable quality. Not bad for the start.

This gives me a new ranking in my backup preferences:

The average Movie: DVD2One, no one is faster ;)
Movie+some extras: IC7, slower but I let it run in times I do not use the PC
Average Movie+lot of extras: DVD95Copy+DVD2One
longer Movie+lot of extras: DVD95Copy+IC7
long Movie+lot of extras: DVD95Copy+TMPGEnc/CCE
my "precious": split to 2 DVDRs


I am currently running DVD95Copy on "The Princess Diaries" which breaks IC on my machine and hope it will cope with it.

At least we are getting even more options in the time of a few weeks - the market for DVDR-Software is growing, the media and players get cheaper. 2003 will be the year of the breakthrough of the DVDR.

[Antonio S.]

@schlaufer:

Are you using the DEMO or the full version of DVD95COPY?

Antonio S.

[schlaufer]

Originally posted by Antonio S.
Are you using the DEMO or the full version of DVD95COPY?

I use the demo.

[vljenewein]

Intersting note to add in my above post. I've since done a lot of looking at the burned DVD I did with DVD95COPY and Nero 5.5.10.15 .

Frankly I am now quite impressed.

There is a little glitch that the creator of DVD95COPY is going to correct, but it seems the default movie is widescreen and the FULLSCREEN is interperted as an "extra" and hence is compressed a whole lot more. After watching the movie in widescreen mode from the selection in the main menu, I see no difference in fact may be even a little better than the same movie made with DVD2ONE.

I now formally appologize to any I may have steerd away from this program as it does a beautiful job in the widescreen mode.

Cheers!!