xsvcd with dvd2svcd

[svcdprayer]

Anyone succeeded with creating xsvcd with dvd2svcd? Im trying to find out how to create it, but couldnt find anything. Anyone could help me out with this ?

Thnx

[ux-3]

Yes sure, I have!
All you need to do is go to the bitrate tab and enter for maximum bitrate 3000. The CD you will create this way is going to be a xSVCD by definition. In case you have something else in mind, be more specific as to what you actually want to accomplish.

[svcdprayer]

Okay great, now just tell me what about movie resolution for xsvcd if i put 3000 max bit rate tell me will resolution will change to 720x576 automatically or i need to change it manually ? and why only 3000 why i cant get more can u plz gemme some more details about bitrates coz i was reading that in xsvcd theres no bitrate limit so i would like to know ur opinion. thats all i guess for now.

Thnx

[winxi]

Hello!
What do you mean by "xSVCD"? The general meaning of this term is a SVCD out of the standard specification. Read around at doom9 to find out, what this specifications are and then you can try to create a xSVCD. To change the resolution for example, just switch dvd2svcd to advanced mode (under the misc tab), and set the resize-resolution to what you want (under the frameserver tab).
ux-3 meant to create a xSVCD by increasing the max bitrate to 3000, because this would be beyond the standard. of course you can set it even higher.
But don´t ask, ´how to´ create a xSVCD again, because there are many ways to go out of the standard.

greets, winxi

[markrb]

XSVCD is a real catch all term and means anything out of spec.

Be carefull what you do with that bitrate because not all DVD players will play out of spec SVCD's. In fact most won't.

If you decide to raise the resolution keep in mind that by making the image bigger you are forcing more bits into a larger area and it might not look any better. The whole idea of raising the bitrate is to make it look better. So there is a balancing act that goes on.

There is no XSVCD spec. The only thing to do is play with it yourself and make test videos with chapters and CDRW discs until you find what you like. Also consider the more bits you put on a disc the less time will be on it.

My Apex player is wonderful when it comes to playing XSVCD's. It would play without issue up to max of around 5500kbit well byond what most other players would do. So my settings were MAX 5500, MAX AVG 4500, MIN 300 and since my bitrate could be very high I also changed the resolution to full DVD 720 x 480, but I always used at least 3 cd's.

Mark

[svcdprayer]

Okay, so only bitrate basically is what u have to change when u want to create xsvcd using dvd2svcd and then standalone player detect as xsvcd ? everything else is the same in dvd2svcd settings or do i need to change something else too ? in other word i would like to know how each player know that u inserted xsvcd ?

thnx, i apprechiate ur help guys

[markrb]

I think you are missing the point. XSVCD is not a spec. The player does not recognise it as such. It thinks it's a SVCD, but with a higher bitrate. Some players will play this, but most will not. It just means you are pushing beyond the limits.

Most DVD Players will not work with high bitrate encodes.

The only way to know for sure is to try it.

You can get an idea of what your player will do by looking it up on the DVD player list at www.vcdhelp.com

Mark

[svcdprayer]

Now i understand, thnx for the info. Just tell me when creating xsvcd with dvd2svcd do i have to change something else xcept the bitrate and resolution if i wish or its standard procedure as for dvd2svcd ?

thnx

[winxi]

I fear, you still don´t understand. I will tell you three examples of _different_ ways to create a xSVCD:

method 1: set max bitrate to 3000
method 2: set max bitrate to 3500
method 3: set max bitrate to 4000 and change the resolution

Each of theese settings will give you a xSVCD, because each of those is out of specs.
There is nothing special you _have to_ do to get a xSVCD. Maybe now you see, that there a lot of different ways to get such a xSVCD.
If you want more bitrate, give it a try, if you want another resolution, give it a try, if you want 5.1 sound, give it a try, if you want anamorphic aspect ratio, give it a try.
Dvd2svcd gives you the power to create such xSVCDs, but its not guaranted that your standalone will play it. Take the advice of markrb serious and search www.vcdhelp.com for your player abilities.
Please read through theese posts another time, before you ask ´what do i have to change to get a xSVCD´ again!

winxi

[svcdprayer]

Hi winxi, i understood all that what u just told in ur last msg just wanted last answer on my last post.

[Labersack]

method 4: leave bitrate and change resolution
method 5: leave bitrae & resolution, change Audio bitrate to 400

Everything beyond specs is called xSVCD, therefore there is no rule. Just try what you want, if your player does recognize and plays it, be happy. But if you buy a new player, maybe your discs will not play on it.

[svcdprayer]

just i need an answer on my last question and thats all.

Thnx for ur help guys.

[Labersack]

There is no answer to your question.
If you change anything beyond the SVCD-specs, you get an xSVCD. You have to check on your own if this will play on your player or not.

[winxi]

@svcdprayer:
maybe it´s a language problem. Please try to rephrase your last question.

greets, winxi

[svcdprayer]

Yes i definately need to rephase.But obviously u gave me answer what i wanted to know.

Lets just assume that i checked everything and that i already know what is the highest bitrate that my standalone player support. Lets say its for example max 4000(however i didnt check it yet but i will) and resolution is :720x576/480 for example. And i want to do it with dvd2svcd program. My question is: Is dvd2svcd program procedure exactly the same when i want to do xsvcd with example : max bitrate 4000 resolution 720x576, with standard svcd ?

In generally i just need to set the bitrate in bitrate tab max wich is for example 4000 and resolution and press go in conversion button(i think the answer is yes but just want ur answer to make sure before i do checking)?

I hope i rephased good ? :)

Thnx

[winxi]

Ok. The answer is yes. The procedure is the same(But you have to switch dvd2svcd to advance mode before you can change the resolution).
As i already wrote, dvd2svcd gives you the posiibility to change many, many things. So you are able to create a ´xSVCD´ with a few clicks.
If you check "warn if total bitrate is too high" under the bitrate tab, dvd2svcd gives you a warning, if you are out of the bitrate specs. But of course you are able to set it even higher (if your player supports it).

hope, that things are clearer now :)

winxi

[svcdprayer]

Yes! THNX everyone for help. My Xsvcd works perfectly. I have Cyberhome AD-L 528! i captured from tv using my pinnacle card just for the test and i discovered that in bitrate tab i entered settings: max bitrate :7000 min:300 max avg:6500 and my cyberhome eats the cd and everything looks great. I havent tested more, bitrate. Resolution is: 720x576. But audio bitrate must be 192 and works fine but if i change it to 384 sound quality isnt good. But the point is my cyberhome eats everything :)

Thnx everyone for help, and plus I learned from every post here.

Thnx again!