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mrbass
26th February 2003, 02:33
1)My own DVD player can play DVDs without an AUDIO_TS folder
2)My own DVD player cannot play DVDs without an AUDIO_TS folder

Since your only allowed one vote answer only about your own dvd player. (not your friends, relatives, etc.) If you own 3 and only 1 has an issue with a missing AUDIO_TS then I'd say vote (you decide though) that they can. However, do post about that paticular dvd player that cannot play without an AUDIO_TS folder.

For those who DO have the problem where a missing AUDIO_TS folder doesn't exist can you state the year the DVD player was manufactured or purchased and brand/model# so we can get an idea if it's only older ones...say pre 1998 or so (example only).

I've been doing a ton of reading and to sum it up. I believe an AUDIO_TS folder is not required for 99% of dvd players (I could be way off, thus the poll). Is it a specification? Yes it is. Will it ever in my or your lifetime be utilized? Absolutely not. As we all know there are commercial DVDs that do NOT have an empty AUDIO_TS folder. What happens then? Does the DVD player refuse to play it or only on DVD-R?

AUDIO_TS was meants for DVD-Audio .AOB Audio Object. Reason it never took off was due to the inability to copy protect it. Thus new SACD format. The only DVD-Audios ( onlya couple hundred currently currently published) require their own separate DVD-Audio player (another hardware puchase, gee isn't that just wonderful).

Ok so what's the whole point...guess it boils down to should we rip in .ISO mode or is File mode just as good even though it doesn't have an AUDIO_TS? Nero adds it automatically. Prassi Primo DVD insists on having it. The purpose of this poll though is to determine if we DO NOT include an AUDIO_TS what percentage of DVD players are affected by this.

Never found out an answer to int 21h's question either. Anyone know?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?&threadid=46886

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http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html
section: [1.12] What about DVD-Audio or Music DVD?
DVD-Audio is a separate format from DVD-Video. DVD-Audio discs can be designed to work in DVD-Video players, but it's possible to make a DVD-Audio disc that won't play at all in a DVD-Video player, since the DVD-Audio specification includes new formats and features, with content stored in a separate "DVD-Audio zone" on the disc (the AUDIO_TS directory) that DVD-Video players never look at. New DVD-Audio players are needed, or new "universal players" that can play both DVD-Video and DVD-Audio discs. Universal players are also called VCAPs (video-capable audio players).

Plea to producers: Universal players won't be available for some time, but you can make universal discs today. With a small amount of effort, all DVD-Audio discs can be made to work on all DVD players by including a Dolby Digital version of the audio in the DVD-Video zone.
Plea to DVD-Audio authoring system developers: Make your software do this by default or strongly recommend this option during authoring.

http://www.manifest-tech.com/links/dvd_glossary-a-l.htm
AUDIO_TS -- The root directory of a DVD-Audio production as stored on a DVD disc. See also DVD Volume, VIDEO_TS.

http://www.digitalaudioguide.com/faq/dvd-audio/faq_2.htm
11/15/2000 - For compatibility with DVD-Video players, DVD-Audio discs can include audio encoded in Dolby Digital and DTS formats that satisfy the DVD-Video specification.
However, DVD-Audio players automatically default to the highest level of DVD specification. Therefore, a DVD-Audio player will only recognize the PCM DVD-Audio tracks on a DVD-Audio disc and will NOT recognize Dolby Digital or DTS audio tracks recorded at the DVD-Video specification. Although these Dolby Digital and DTS tracks are playable on a DVD-Video player, they are invisible to a DVD-Audio player. This applies even if the player supports the DVD-Video specification.

Useless11
26th February 2003, 07:58
Omni DVD player, gotta find the specs later.

REECYCUP
26th February 2003, 08:14
Most Omni DVD players are rebadged Sampos (3000G) or Malatas (3003/3102/3200)
i had one it worked fine without audio_ts
but was very picky with new titles

mrbass
27th February 2003, 08:30
Sure seems like no one encounters this problem. I'm going to revamp the guide to suggest ripping in file mode again. I'll make a tidbit note about AUDIO_TS at the bottom for the 3% (probably less than that) that have issues with this.

Remember this is only an issue if you burn with IC7 directly. If you using Prassi Primo, Nero or whatever then you can easily add it if needed. Those 3% or whatever sure seem to be vocal.

REECYCUP
27th February 2003, 15:45
:)

new2dvd
27th February 2003, 18:47
mrbass,

I use ImgTools (v0.89) to create an image, I write the image with DVD Decrypter, and play the DVD-R on a Sony DVP-NS715P player. The ImgTools Help document instructs you to create a VIDEO_TS sub-directory and an AUDIO_TS sub-directory. I frequently forget to prepare the AUDIO_TS folder but all of my backup DVDs play just fine. Therefore, the Sony DVP-NS715P player apparently doesn't require an AUDIO_TS folder.

xmenxmen
27th February 2003, 19:43
Ever since I started using Nero again, I no longer have to remember to create it since Nero create it by itself. Currently using Nero 5.5.10 and only play on standalone, Pioneer and Toshiba.

fusion007
27th February 2003, 19:58
Originally posted by xmenxmen
Ever since I started using Nero again, I no longer have to remember to create it since Nero create it by itself. Currently using Nero 5.5.10 and only play on standalone, Pioneer and Toshiba.


yeah they seem to have done a good job with the newer versions especially when you consider the cost of other progs
p.s also check there site for the 5.510B update its free.

bex
27th February 2003, 21:59
obviously warner brothers home video don't think the AUDIO_TS folder is important I have the pal rental of Eight Legged Freaks here and its not got a AUDIO_TS folder


Bex

abatis
28th February 2003, 06:57
my Sony S360 player does not require a AUDIO_TS file.