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DaRipper
23rd February 2003, 21:32
I've started testing out IC lately and so far, the picture quality looks good but the inconsistency is horrible.

Recorder: Pioneer A05
Pentium 2.54
512MB RAM
HD: Ultra SCSI 160 73.4 GIG
Geforce 4
Media: Ritek 4x G04
Ripped all movies to ISO with DVD Decrypter.

So far, I've tried the following movies.

Unfaithful
Tron
Princess Mononoke
Pulp Fiction

Unfaithful
Crashes IC at around 88% (Title 4 & 5). This is all over the forums.

Tron
Increased the disc size to 4.65 Gig, didn't shrink anything below default, IC completed successfully with a 4.33 Gig movie. Tried burning with IC, crashed around 90%. Extracted the pdi files to ISO with pdi2iso. Used Daemon and tested with Power DVD, looked good, Menues worked. Burnt with with DVD Decrypter. Played on APEX 1500, seek time took a long time after all the warning crap to start of Root Menu. Tried to play trailers, didn't work. It would freez for about 30 seconds and then nothing. Chapter points worked. Watched movie to chapter about 2:05 minutes into chapter 13 then the movie started skipping a few seconds. Thinking that maybe the burn was the problem, used another disc, tried burning with Alcohol 120%, got to 95% and received an error.

===------------=== Source Disc/Image Information ===----------------===
Type : Standard ISO Image file
Path : D:\Movies\Tron\
Name : tron.pdi.iso
Size : 4438.13 MB
Session: 1
Track: 1

Session 01 :
Track 01 : DVD, Length : 2272321(4.33 GB), Address : 000000
===-----------------------------------------------------------------===

===------------=== Recording Progress Detail Log ===----------------===
AM 11:03:05 Processor info : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.53GHz (2538MHz)
AM 11:03:05 Memory Buffer using size: 64 MB
AM 11:03:05 Image file loading : D:\Movies\Tron\tron.pdi.iso
AM 11:03:05 DVD Source Info : Session : 1, Track : 1, Length : 4.33 GB / 504:57:46
AM 11:03:08 (F:) PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 (2:1) : Recording Method/Speed
AM 11:03:08 Recording - DVD DAO - 4.0X (5520 KB/Sec)
AM 11:06:03 Image file loading completed!
AM 11:32:20 (F:) PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 (2:1) : [Write ERROR] LBA : 02166480, Length : 16
S:KEY - 03/0C/00 - "Write Error"
AM 11:32:20 (F:) PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 (2:1) : Recording failed!
AM 11:32:20 Error message : [03/0C/00] - Write Error
AM 11:32:20 (F:) PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 (2:1) : Recording failed!
AM 11:32:22 Something is wrong with the recording procedure!
Please check the log file and report any errors to Technical Support.
===-----------------------------------------------------------------===

These program are the $hit and I literally mean $hit.


Princess Mononoke
IC completed successfully. Shrank a few of the extras to about 40%. Used pdi2iso to convert to ISO and tested with Daemon and Power DVD. Menus worked. Started movie, during the clouds scene about 20 seconds into movie, movie craped out. Power DVD reports the following.

Error Code: 89020003
The DVD disc might have been damaged so as to inhibit playback operation.
Please clean the surface of the disc if possible. If it has been scratched, it might not be readable.

If I go directly into the chapter selection screen and skipped the first chapter. The movies goes on fine from what I saw (didn't watch the whole movie). Rewindind to the beginning works fine also.

So what's the problem?

scratched all the Mononoke files, re-ripped the Mononoke to ISO, and ran IC again. This time not shrinking any files more then the default recommended. Used pdi2iso, played on Power DVD and same problem, same place, same time. If I had a woman that was that consistant, I be happy but come on, this thing is flaky.

Pulp Fiction
IC once again finished fine. Burnt with DVD Decryptor. Did pdi2iso, Played with Power DVD, looked good. Played on APEX standalone. If this program were a person, I'D KILL IT! The extra trailers didn't work again. Going into the trailers section, I press play, nothing happens. I couldn't get out of the trailers section back to the main menu by pressing the menu button. I pressed the Title button and got back to the main menu. Started movie, looked good that's for sure. Haven't finished watching it yet. Will update soon and I will also update this posting with every movie I do using IC.

It's my hobby, I like to throw away $2 per disc.

FYI for all u DVD2One fans. DVD2One is more predictable but, it does have problems in many sections with rewinding and freezing even on version 1.02. Also the quality isn't as good on older movies that haven't been remastered or on very large movies that require lots transcoding.

I'm not a fanatic about either program, I just want the one that's does what it's suppose to do without wasting hours of creating DVD5s that contain flaws. Seems like the goal of many programs nowadays is to create something that just runs and then to use the Internet to distribute a thousand update patches.

If you have any solutions please speak up.

DaRipper
23rd February 2003, 21:38
I found the solution for those bad disc.

Please follow these directions carefully. Eject the disc out of the DVD Standalone player. Throw them across the room. Run over there, pick them up and smash them flat on the floor. This will break the discs into pieces. Now you have art.

DaRipper
23rd February 2003, 21:43
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mrbass
23rd February 2003, 22:04
Dear Jack DaRipper,

Your frustration level reminds me this guy and the other guy responds "Sounds like you need the playboy channel".
http://www.rick.com/audio/cpcable.ra
(requires Media player from Hell..Satan wrote it himself RealONE)

a few things you could try
a) make sure you don't have repair subchannel data checked.
b) don't unselect any titles ( I think you already tried this)
c) did you see the 5 phase come up each and everytime you Pressed Start on IC? did you delete discdata.adi, etc.

When it crashes burning at whatever percent you guys having anything going on in the background? It's purely amazing seeing how much stuff is loaded in the systray of people's computers nowadays.

edit: concerning your second post...I have a better solution...back in the ancient dayz when I had a bumping car stereo I'd put cds on the back of my license plate and it'd shine like a rainbow and vibrate loudly (put rag under license plate to solve that problem) to the music.

int 21h
24th February 2003, 00:23
Coasters + Microwave = Fun

timekills
24th February 2003, 07:25
+- RW is your friend?

dumb13
24th February 2003, 10:50
Originally posted by DaRipper

Recorder: Pioneer A05


DaRipper:

do you have a chance to take your .pdi (or better: .iso, converted by pdi2iso.exe) image to another computer with another burner?

I have talked to a few people in my friendship having A05 and almost all of them are complaining. Myself having the good-old A03, was not able to screw up one single disc over a year since I have it, and all that's written plays everywhere I tried, even in those freaking Sony settops :-) too.

And, I do not want to challenge you, but sometimes very small tricks can bring you the solution - see http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=267226#post267226 :-)

I thought just two ideas, maybe totally wrong...
regards
dumb

waldok
24th February 2003, 11:26
I also noticed extremely long seeking times between menus during playback of Resident Evil Region 1 backuped with InstantCOpy.

Never noticed anything like this before with any other "handmade" backup.

Now I must say quality is a real problem for me here. To be able to keep a satisfactory level of quality on the movie itself, I had to go at 50% quality on the extras and the results are horrible, blocks all over the place.

For the moment, and until I tweak (or understand ;))it a bit more, I'm not that impressed. Took 5 hours to process Resident Evil and quality I got on the extras is really crap. Now if I have to go trial and error for all the extras individually until I find the correct quality settings for each one, I'd rather stick to my old favourite handmade reauthoring way, which seems to give better quality and which will not take more time in this case.

Waldok:cool:

mfrancis123
24th February 2003, 12:02
Well I'm not sure if I'm just lucky but every disc I've done with instant copy has worked great on my PC and a couple different standalones. I always burn the .pdi file with instant copy. I've done:

Ocean's Eleven
Fight Club
Pulp Fiction (old version)
Magnolia
Mummy Returns

All have worked the first time and burned with no problems on my A05. I'm still using the demo version (6 days left) if that makes a difference.

Thanks

OsirisMedia01
24th February 2003, 12:34
Umm okay is it just me or are we forgetting some fundamental facts here.

Okay lets review, for movies that are low 5 gigs, IC seems to reproduce excellent, movie+extra quality.

But for movies which are 6 gig, you are trying to turn them into 4.36 gig and still expect perfect quality?

Now is it just me, or am I the only one not expecting picture perfect backups here. Look you CANNOT turn 6gigs into 4.36 gigs and expect everything to be peachy okay im sorry it DOES not work like that. You might get more descent quality if you want to use CCE, TMPEG, etc all those other 50 programs to do it.

But really come on, most of us were happy 3-4 weeks ago when DVD2One came out, and we could so easily just make bacjups. Then came make it easy, and now IC and were trying to cram every little thing onto the disc okay, its just not going to happen.

Just be happy to get the Menu, and the movie in great quality. Really if your going to use the extras and everything, with all the time your spending on backing these ups, just go buy a 2nd copy of the movie, or accept the facts that the disc only hold 4.36 gig. amd your trying to shove say 6gig on it. What do you want it to do!?

waldok
24th February 2003, 14:53
Osiris, I have to disagree on this.

When a company advertises and sells a product as a 1:1 backup tool, the resulting quality must be acceptable. On this side DVD2one seems more "logical" to me since it says (for the moment) it will backup the movie only (I'm not fond of DVD2one either, but I see it is much better commercially targetted and I wouldn't do a 1:1 solution if I were them). The point is that the argument of a full 1:1 copy used by PInnacle may be strong on a commercial point of view, but I could also achieve a 1:1 DVD copy on a single CD-R provided I degrade quality enough. If you advertise 1:1 copy, then ALL parts of the backup must reach a satisfactory level of quality. If this is not possible, as you seem to say, then they are advertising for something they will never be able to do...see what I mean ?
And if I have to do trial and error on each extra until I find the correct quality percentage that will allow me to maintain quality on both the movie and the extras, then I'd rather use the good old manual methods and calculate bitrates by myself like I always did until now, with great quality results.

I mean, when you buy a washing-machine, you don't have to wash your different clothes 10 times at 10 different temperatures until you find the good temp for each type of clothe...otherwise you wash it by hand.

I don't mean to be rude here, just expressing that, for a commercial product, and considering the 1:1 copy advantage they claim for, IC is not good enough in its current version.

But that's just my opinion and I certainly won't try to convince IC fans here. As long as everyone finds his pleasure with his own tools (if I may say so... ;)

Waldok:cool:

mrbass
24th February 2003, 17:04
Waldok...try keeping menus above 60%. Extras, trailers, etc. above 70% and Main Movie 75% or above for great quality.

waldok
24th February 2003, 20:53
Thanks MrBass for the tips,

But on this particular movie (Resident Evil region 1), there are so many extras that I can't get them at 70% and the movie at 75% at the same time. Won't fit in 4.35GB.

Maybe I'll consider removing some extras like trailers so I can get better quality on really interesting extras like Making-of.


Waldok:cool:

lusid
25th February 2003, 09:29
You guys who notice "Extra seek time" are better off than I. One of my players never returns to the menu on IC7 backups.

I found I can correct it by using IFOEdit to correct the VOB-Unit pointers and re-saving the ifo for each vts. I'd be curious if doing this would correct your seek issues as well. I'm pretty sure it's a bug in InstantCopy.

DaRipper, if you could, try it on your Pulp Fiction backup and see if it helps. I think there is another menu navigation bug, but I'm having trouble nailing it down. THe vobs definately have something wrong with them though.

DaRipper
25th February 2003, 11:41
Ok guys, you wouldn't beleive it because I didn't either.

After all those bad disk I threw away, i got frustrated at pissing 16 buck down the drain in one sitting. So far 8 Ritek 4x G04 disk in the garbage in one sitting.

I didn't change any settings on any software, I used the same ISO files as before.

I went back to my computer and looked at the ISOs that IC7 had created. They looked good (Except for Mononoke which I can't figure out why it errors after the clouds scene), even all the menus worked. I asked myself, how is it possible that everything on my computer worked fine and I was able to see both the movies and the extras while on my Apex 1500 standalone player I was only able to see the Movie and chapter sections. I also asked myself why did Tron show the opening warning parts, skipped half of the intro and then displayed the root menu with long seek times. After all those questions and a few more, I decided to give everything another shot. I burnt another disc, this time the same movie Tron (same ISO). What I noticed was that the second disc that I burnt, displayed the intro warning sections and then it showed the other intro parts which were missing in the first disc but, it didn't play to the root menu. I press the menu button manually, forwared to the sequence in which I saw a skip on my previous burn and played that scene. This time, there was absolutely now skipping! So my logic was, if I burnt one disc and got certain parts to play fine and burnt another disc which displayed totally different problems, there's no way it can be the ISO file from IC7 that's giving me the problem.

I went out and bought new disc even though I already spent $100+ on 50 Ritek 4x. I bought 10 Fuji 2x. I bought name brand this time because I read somewhere that name brand companies test their disc thoroughly before releasing them, unlike cheap disc which don't have much of a thorough testing procedure. Being skeptical from all the bad experience, I crossed my fingers and toes and then attempted another burn of Tron with DVD Decryptor. The burn went fine as usual.

HOLY $HIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The warnings played then the intros played. At this point, I got a semi in my pants. But, not to be premature, I calmed down. The menu came up with NO SEEK PROBLEMS NO LAG TIMES. Then I attempted to play the trailers. IT PLAYED INSTANTLY! SCHHHHWWWINNNNG! I skipped through the chapters, did forward, rewind, played through the scene that skipped in the original burn and the thing sang like a bird.

I previously had the same problem with Pulp Fiction in which the trailer didn't play and the seek time between certain parts lagged a bit long. With the new discs, the trailers played instantly and the lag went away.

So to recap.

I spent.
$55 for 50 cheap OptoDisc DVD-R
**Apex 1500 DVD standalone player doesn't even recognize there's a disc and this thing plays everything!
$100+ for 50 Ritek 4x G04 DVD-R
**Skipping, lag problems, rewind problems, missing scenes.
$27 for 10 Fuji 2x DVD-R
**So far so good, I have to complete watching all the movie before I tell you it's perfect.

At first, I didn't think it had anything to do with the media. Everything created with DVD2One and make it easy seemed to burn fine. But then again, most of the movies I watched after had some lag or skipping a few seconds here and there. Not nearly as bad as missing entire intros or trailers. I also experience Rewind problems in which you start rewinding from chapter 16 and the next thing you know you're on chapter 12 in 2 seconds. I wonder if all of these problems had to do with the media now.

I will watch pulp fiction tomorrow and I will post a follow up on my results for you guys.

I will never again buy poorly made cheap media and spend countless hours debugging problems and guessing where the problem is. Spend the extra 1 or 2 dollars, it's worth it.

I've wasted over $200 dollars on different cheap media. If I paid the same amount for half the media but gotten 95% of them to work, I'd be in heaven.

FYI: If you burn two copies from the same ISO and one has certain problems and the other doesn't. Assuming your burner is fine, it's probably them media.

Here's how I run my quick test to see if I have a good ISO file after IC7 is completed. Load up daemon with the movie ISO you created. Play the intro. When you get to the menu, go the the chapter section and see if you can move around. Go to the extras and randomly select them to see if they play (you don't have to watch the whole thing). Play the movie at the beginning. Skip to the end chapters and make sure they work. Besure to test forward and rewind, not too fast because Power DVD might crash if you're using Power DVD. If all good in the hood, burn the movie.

Once it's burned, run the same test on ur standalone plus these extra steps. Fast forward 2x then as fast as your player can go, mine is 8x then do the same for rewind. Go the the later chapters of the movie (the second half of your movie) and perform the same fast forward, fast rewind test. I notice that sometimes FF/FR works in the beginning but it will have problems towards the end. Of course the best test is to watch the whole thing.

DaRipper
25th February 2003, 11:44
dumb13

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do you have a chance to take your .pdi (or better: .iso, converted by pdi2iso.exe) image to another computer with another burner?
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I have two systems which showed the same symptoms. Read my last post, I found most of the problems so far. As soon as I watch the entire movie tomorrow, I'll tell you if there's anything else.

DaRipper
25th February 2003, 11:55
BTW: DVD2One vs. IC7

The clouds scene at the beginning.
DVD2One, lots of square blocks.
IC7, very smooth and detailed.

This is not a fanatic point of view since I'm not a fan of either programs at this point. But I do use both programs. Just an observation.

I find that smoke and cloudy sky scenes or skies with lots of colour transition are tough for these transcoders. IC7 does a much better job of those situations then DVD2One.

alfadude
25th February 2003, 12:14
For the people that want perfect quality for both the extra's and the movie ==> use another tool then ic7

I personally want the extra's but I don't care about the quality(use 40% setting)
Then I strip the audio that I don't need(like french). mostly saving 300MB
The space that you have left after that is enough for acceptable quality.
Set the movie until I reach 4.55GB press F5 and okay.

Quality is always good.

Done already 25 movies with ic7 and did not have any problems.

OsirisMedia01
25th February 2003, 12:35
Yeah okay point conceded, considering the product does advertise perfect 1:1 copy yes I guess youve got a reason to be peeved off.

I guess I didnt expect or even consider that the advertising might actually mean youd expect a perfect replica, I guess I just considered everything I had learnt from Dvd2One etc, and figured it would be like that.
But based on its commerical sale point yes I see your point of view.

But stepping back ignoring the ads, and just based on you know how it works now, youd have to concede expecting a percfect 1:1 copy is pretty unrealistic hey?

In any event, IC7 is making dodgey sales statements, and hell I think I can live with some low quality extras, as long as I never spend $200 of blank media.
lol sorry mate I just cant believe how much you spent on it, I guess if you hadnt have bulk buyed it wouldnt have been as expensive.

Just dont try and do that in Aus. It woulda cost you over $550 to buy all those DVD discs in Aus hehe.

jfcarbel
26th February 2003, 00:12
DaRipper

The Ritek media is usually a good media. I have bought serveral from rima.com with no problems. But I have heard of companies selling discs as a specific brand and then they turn out to be some others.

So a few questions for set us Ritek fans straight:

1) Did you burn at 1x, 2x, 4x?
2) Did you verify in DVD Decrypter the discID to verify that these are truly Ritek's?

bambamboy
26th February 2003, 02:24
I've used stuff from Meritline, ranging from the el-cheapo ones (meritline brand) to the "you'll need to sign your house and family over to us" Pioneers DVDrs.

The movies burn fine, the navigation is hit-n-miss. My Sampo "play all" player doesn't recognize them. My Phillips DVDRW, Pioneer standalones play them just fine. My Apex is hit-n-miss.

I'm pretty happy with IC7.... navigation/play menus worked consistently.

I'll check out the Fuji's though and see if it helps.

wedge
26th February 2003, 11:11
Instant copy:
3 movies:
master of disguise ( w/all extra's)
the tuxedo (w/most extra's,trailer removed)
road to perdition (hbo making of retained all else removed)

Master of disguise works perfect on playstation 2,apex 1500 & computer w\win xp using Real magic Hollywood Plus decoder card.

The Tuxedo & Road to Perdition.
Both work perfectly on the Apex 1500.
Computer=will access menu & will play extra's through the menu but will NOT play the movie.I have to go to scene selection & pick first scene then movie will play as normal.
Playstation 2=starts disc then comes to a scene that says parental lock is enabled.Read ps2 manual & disabled parental lock.now disc gets to black screen & locks.
Anyone else done these movies & had similar results.Anyone played there IC movies on a PS2?
When I removed the trailers etc. I did untick the title sets,is that correct or should I have just set the slider down to minimum??
Sorry if this has been answered else where but have not seen anything written with regards to the Playstation 2.

While writing I just thought of something,I am going to do the tuxedo again this time with everything ( keeping trailers etc).Quality will suffer but I'll see if it works in the ps2.I will let you know if that solves the problem.But if anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them.
Thanks:confused:

ravenone_2000
26th February 2003, 22:37
I did Tuxedo last night. Full backup. No problems with any menus or playing on standalone.

I do have a very strange problem w/ Sweet Home Alabama. The DVD-R will not play in either my DVD-Rom or my DVD burner on my PC. But, it will play on my standalone. Go figure?? MY standalone is a old sony DVD player from abour 4 years ago. The one strange thing on it with this movie is that at the start of some chapters the subtitiles automatically show up for a sentence or two of dialogue, but then go away. I have the subtitles turned off when I watch the movie, but they show up for a few seconds on a couple chapter starts. Very strange. I can't figure out why my PC DVD drives won't recognize the disc as having a movie on it.

anyone else ever have this problem?

wedge
27th February 2003, 07:23
OK:
Answered my own question.
Redid The Tuxedo w/IC this time not deleting any titlesets.Just lowered % to 60%.
Put the disc into the Playstation 2 & it worked just fine.
So obviously the PS2 does not like to see any missing titlesets.
BTW I burned using IC.
Well hope this helps out anyone else who uses there ps2 to watch movies.:sly:

xmenxmen
27th February 2003, 20:07
Originally posted by DaRipper
I bought name brand this time because I read somewhere that name brand companies test their disc thoroughly before releasing them, unlike cheap disc which don't have much of a thorough testing procedure. Being skeptical from all the bad experience,

DaRipper, why don't you invest in a better player then. Much cheaper in the long run then spending on expensive media just to cope with that cheesy player. I would suggest getting ahold of a Pioneer or new Sony and you will notice that all your previously burn dvds will now play flawlessly.

BTW, Apex 1500 are crap when it comes to reading DVDR, just check DVDRHelp if you don't believe me. Also, Ritek are good stuff, really.

DaRipper
27th February 2003, 21:29
jfcarbel

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1) Did you burn at 1x, 2x, 4x?
2) Did you verify in DVD Decrypter the discID to verify that these are truly Ritek's?

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1: I did burns on the 1x and 4x using the same ISO.
2: Yes, I defintely have Ritek.

DaRipper
27th February 2003, 21:32
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xmenxmen

DaRipper, why don't you invest in a better player then. Much cheaper in the long run then spending on expensive media just to cope with that cheesy player. I would suggest getting ahold of a Pioneer or new Sony and you will notice that all your previously burn dvds will now play flawlessly.

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I have a Pioneer DVR-105, one of the best DVD Burners on the market.

DaRipper
27th February 2003, 21:34
After getting rid of Ritek and Optodisc, I'm now using Fuji. I'm now testing TDK.

Everything works perfectly, no skipping.

int 21h
28th February 2003, 01:00
Originally posted by DaRipper
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xmenxmen

DaRipper, why don't you invest in a better player then. Much cheaper in the long run then spending on expensive media just to cope with that cheesy player. I would suggest getting ahold of a Pioneer or new Sony and you will notice that all your previously burn dvds will now play flawlessly.

-------------------------------

I have a Pioneer DVR-105, one of the best DVD Burners on the market.

You are talking about two different things. And I agree, Ritek seem to work pretty well. I've burned quite a few of them with no problems whatsoever (in my Pioneer DV-C302D)

DaRipper
28th February 2003, 18:37
Actually, I bought the Philips Q35 player also. It showed the same problem with all the movies that actually had problems. It's not a player issue. After reburning all of my ISOs with TDK and Fuji DVD-Rs, everything is working great.

Sony players are good, however most of them don't play SVCD so that won't work for me. Besides, I think I have enough data to say it's not a player issue at this point since I've tried it on two of my players and I've also tried it on 1 other Philips player that my friend owns.

Thanks for all the help everyone. Problem solved.

Now if only we can predict IC final output size.

int 21h
28th February 2003, 18:53
Has anyone noticed any correlation between unselecting automatic resize, removing the audio/subtitle streams you don't want, and then reselecting automatic resize? Does that give you sizes that are more accurate? I've been doing it this way, but I can't say that I ever tried doing it the other way.. I've also used the F5 trick a few times to increase the size... or is there some hardcoded size limit somewhere in the program itself that we aren't necessarily aware of?

DaRipper
28th February 2003, 19:02
Actually, it doesn't appear to be a problem. After you remove a Title, the entire size will decrease based on the amount of the title that you removed while retaining your current settings. When you press the automatic button, IC notices that you have more space to use so it changes all the values of the remaining titles to a hight percentage to give you better quality. That's why you see the size difference.

xmenxmen
28th February 2003, 22:43
Originally posted by DaRipper
Actually, I bought the Philips Q35 player also. It showed the same problem with all the movies that actually had problems. It's not a player issue. After reburning all of my ISOs with TDK and Fuji DVD-Rs, everything is working great.

Sony players are good, however most of them don't play SVCD so that won't work for me. Besides, I think I have enough data to say it's not a player issue at this point since I've tried it on two of my players and I've also tried it on 1 other Philips player that my friend owns.

Thanks for all the help everyone. Problem solved.

Now if only we can predict IC final output size.

If you have a Best Buy near you, you could bring your author disk over there and give it a try. Seriously, I used to think it media problem too until I invested in better players. Some just don't have good enough laser to tolerate the cheaper stuff. As far as SVCD is concern, Pioneer will play them just fine. Not sure about Sony on that one as I don't own one, but was able to test one and have to say the new generation one do read great when it comes to any type of DVDR. If you think Ritek or Opto are bad, you have never tried cdrecordable media, those are junk. But they will read fine on both the Sony and Pioneer. Other cheap brands I have seen that play DVDr fine are the GE from Walmart, cheap, but they do work as one of my friend has one.

Reason I mention this is, if you are like me, I do a lot of dvd and if I were to be suck on certain brands and not be able to use the cheaper one, I would really be broke. So that's when I started looking at different players and invest in a nicer one. With that said, now I can enjoy just paying about 80 bucks or so for Ritek or other brands and not kill myself with the more expensive stuff. BTW, Ritek burn nicely at 2X on my 104.

Prosper
1st March 2003, 00:01
Hmm, strange. I use Ritek G03's, using the 2x4all firmware on my A04, and I haven't had any problems at all. My Norcent set-top player and my skanky-old Pioneer A110 (this is the one that won't read CD-R's, CD-RW's, or DVD-RW's) read them flawlessly. I've used IC to do Beverly Hills Cop II and III, XMen, The Matrix, and 2 or 3 others, and I honestly can't see any problems with them at 55% (the extras at 48% aren't great, but it's better than not having them at all)

MackemX
1st March 2003, 01:49
WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I just got 6 numbers :D

int 21h
1st March 2003, 09:31
Originally posted by DaRipper
Actually, it doesn't appear to be a problem. After you remove a Title, the entire size will decrease based on the amount of the title that you removed while retaining your current settings. When you press the automatic button, IC notices that you have more space to use so it changes all the values of the remaining titles to a hight percentage to give you better quality. That's why you see the size difference.

I'm not referring to title removal (which I consider to be an unsupported, and perhaps undeveloped 'hack'), but instead, subtitle/audio stream removal.