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nyplayer
17th February 2003, 23:11
Movies that have caused InstantCopy to Crash

Reservior Dogs
The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

I was able to backup using DVD2One

MrDVD
18th February 2003, 04:00
Snowdogs PAL - IC7 abort at the begin of Titelset 3 :(

mookyking
18th February 2003, 04:34
tenchi GXP disk1
rahxephon disk2 (hong kong)

mhz
20th February 2003, 06:09
My IC v7.0.0.91 crased with "Gone in 60 seconds"

ThaMan
20th February 2003, 07:55
SpiderMan Region 2 crashed

The-PJ
20th February 2003, 10:58
What was the error msg? Something like "List index out of Bounds"? If so, I believe that is caused by a VOBID not referenced in the .IFO.

MackemX
20th February 2003, 16:27
for the people above with problems
are you all ripping the COMPLETE DVD using DVDDecypter in File mode or Smartripper in the same mode?
are you leaving the ripped files and then opening Instantcopy?
are you doing a complete 1:1 using InstantCopy

If the answer is yes to all 3 questions then sorry I cannot offer advice aprt from checking the actual settings in your ripping program are correct

If you think they are then post your settings and maybe I or someone else can help

what you ripped with and what settings
did u mod files before using IC
what you have stripped using IC
what % settings on movie etc
fault it showed or how it crashed & when
any other info you can think of

I think DVDDecrypter is the better ripping program in File mode, no problems for me since I began using it ages & ages ago

If you are actually modifying files before using IC I have found that using the delete playback button in ifoedit causes problems for IC as it displays the Out Of Bounds warning

I first came across OOB when I deleted the warning/logo/trailers etc using DELETE PLAYBACK in ifoedit after ripping, (the shortcut way)

removing anything using the delete playback in ifoedit InstantCopy will display OOB warning as it firstly checks all ifo's and using this button makes the ifo file incorrect somehow

yet if you play the DVD using PowerDVD it's ok and will probably still play in a standalone aswell but basically IC don't like it

to delete all the usual intros at the beginnning, 1st find the VOB ID using either ifoedit preview or vobrator and remove the VOB ID's using the Menu/VOB extras buttons and strp them so it rebuilds the VOB's and updates the IFO/BUP files

It's best to make backups of the files you are modifying (IFO/BUP/VOB), just in case it doesn't work properly. This is just in case it goes wrong you can always rebuild the DVD without ripping again

Personally I think it's better to strip everything out 1st (audio/subs/unwanted VOB ID's) using ifoedit, making sure it's all ok to play then use InstantCopy to do the compression bit as I think IC has problems stripping the DVD

Everything has worked great so far and it also seems to give a better size result at the end as using IC to strip audio & extras seems to give mixed size results

I know it's extra work but at least you get a working DVD at the end of it without the worry of will it work or not if I use IC

hope this helps anyone who does use delete playback button

valnar
20th February 2003, 17:31
Or simply use Delete playback *after* it runs through IC.

-Robert

nyplayer
20th February 2003, 17:35
MisterX

Thanks for the info but..... The crashing of InstantCopy is movie related. These movies seems everyone is having trouble with them.

ilovecatbus
20th February 2003, 17:49
The Big Blue.....
Ya..I tried to take out the foreign audio track and sub....
crashed twice......
I will try if I keep them all, see what will happen....:)

madmandiaz
20th February 2003, 17:55
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back - 2nd disc R1

MackemX
20th February 2003, 17:56
Originally posted by valnar
Or simply use Delete playback *after* it runs through IC.

-Robert

I agree valnar is right if the file is really small, just remove it after, obviously you have to extract the PDI file before burning to do this(also recommended)

but for the DVD's that insist on playing a whole load of rubbish before getting to the main menu, these extra few MB's I would rather remove 1st and let IC have more space to work with

ThaMan
20th February 2003, 20:13
That's the whole point it gives no ERROR msg.. it just close when half the movie is encoded

madmandiaz
20th February 2003, 20:15
@TheMan

That is exactly what is going on in my situation. I wonder if it is the disc structure itself or just some retarded bug.

valnar
23rd February 2003, 22:51
I'm trying to do Rocky Horror now too. Did you ever find a way to make it work with IC?

-Robert

raiderz
23rd February 2003, 22:54
Monty Python and the Holy Grail R2 Disc 1

crashes when the main film is encoding at 99% and overall at 97%, "Multicopy.exe has experienced and error and will be shut down"

LevelB
24th February 2003, 04:40
Just looking over the posts, I notice (althoough not all info is posted) that the movies all seem to be 2nd disc, PAL, or NOT R1.

Maybe there is a trend, who knows?

X5-452
24th February 2003, 10:12
Band Of Brothers R4 Disc 6.

Zimmy
24th February 2003, 17:23
Criterion's Red Beard
It is a 3 hour movie and InstantCopy crashes about 1/2 way through.
I tried stripping out the extras first and it still craps out.
And this is after ripping the entire disc with DVDDecryptor.


Zimmy

EjectButton
25th February 2003, 05:51
simpsons s2 d4

tried twice, IC closed itself with no message around 90% both times, s2 d3 worked fine for some reason

nyplayer
25th February 2003, 06:21
Divide by 0 error

Fat Greek Wedding
Legally Blonde

A7mag3ddon
25th February 2003, 16:57
The Sweetest Thing - Pal

stops about 47% in and reports " Multicopy.exe Caused a blah blah blah blah " click ok and IC7 shuts down.

Tried 2 rips both using dvd decrypter if full file mode , nothing altered and tried on 2 pc's same % and same error.

da_SPiN
25th February 2003, 17:20
I have problems with DRACULA (by WES CRAVEN)... stops working... no failure message or anything like this...

SPiN

MackemX
25th February 2003, 21:30
If IC crashes during processing but then returns to the Device Selection window, will it let you click on the Details button and if so does it say anything in the LOG tab?. I get this below when I cancel manually

just asking, nothing else, to see if it keeps a record while it is running

If I close the program using Task manager, when I restart it, it states' an abnormal program termination has left temporary files' and ask if I want to delete them

Its referring to the PDI files but could it also be the Log file?

I click no then goto Details and there is no Log Tab option!, but this is a forced shutdown of IC so I'm wondering if the Log is still there during a 'normal' crash or can you access it before opening IC and if it is does it say why it stopped?

Versions:
Operating System: Windows 2000 5.01 (Build 2600: )
InstantCopy: 7.0.0.091 (05/02/2003 15:15:54)
CD-R Drivers: 6.4.3.089 (30/01/2003 17:28:04)
ISO/UDF Creator: 1.0.2.033 (12/12/2002 14:46:00)
ASAPI Interface: 5.0.0.002 (27/04/2000 12:31:18)

Source Device:

Settings:
Write method: Automatic (Recommended)
Closing method: Automatic (Recommended)
Write speed: Automatic (Recommended)
[ ] Write to hard disk first
[ ] Verify destination media after write
[ ] Fixed Gaps between tracks
[X] Repair Subchannel data

Transfer Mode: Automatic (Recommended)
Error Handling: Stop copying on read error
[ ] Use error seek
Error seek range: 0
[X] Automatically create processing items

Reading Video Title Sets...
Loaded analyze data for disc: 6F0887A19C29B5A2C6C8DA0C7F15A0D8-0002F800
Nr Position Length Pre Post Se Sector Mode
---------------------------------------------
01 0 2,464,153 150 150 1 Mode 1 ISO
---------------------------------------------
1 Track(s), 2,464,453 sectors total data length
Copying contents to hard drive
Reading Video Data from source
Analyzing Main Menu
Analyzing Menu 1 of 4
Analyzing video title set 1 of 4
Analyzing Menu 2 of 4
Analyzing video title set 2 of 4
Analyzing Menu 3 of 4
Analyzing video title set 3 of 4
Analyzing Menu 4 of 4
Analyzing video title set 4 of 4
Video title set 1 quality: 0
Video title set 2 quality: 0
Video title set 3 quality: 0
Video title set 4 quality: 0
Reading Main Menu
Initializing...
Reading...
MULTIPLEX: Video: 110 Audio: 0 NavPackets: 6
Reading Menu 1 of 4
Initializing...
Reading...

and does anyone know exactly what the Processing tab is for?(is it just relating to the burning?)

or could it be for problem discs as when you click on NEW button it gives a list of Exclude, Mark Error, Patch, Skip Track

and if you click LOAD it shows Copy Control Information files are needed, whatever they are

cheers

sidders
26th February 2003, 00:48
@A7mag3ddon

The Sweetest Thing crashes for me too. I thought it was just me!!!
Same error.

Dobbin44
26th February 2003, 00:57
Add these to the list
Bridge On The River Kwai - Region 1
Robbie Williams - Where Egos Dare - Region 2/3/4/5/6
Spent 6 hours copying and got nothing, both crashing midway.
Will this bug be fixed in later versions?

ZeroLimit
27th February 2003, 08:35
one more movie Lord Of The Rings Fellowship Of The Ring if anyones had the same problem or know a fix all i get is a error with xp that program must shut down! anyone know why? Thanks

carlinhosg
27th February 2003, 20:24
The Legend Of 1900 - R1
Couldn't do it in either file mode or ISO mode.

Anyone else?

sickboy
28th February 2003, 05:10
Monty Python and the Holy Grail Special Edition NTSC

Crashes at 99% everytime no matter how many times I re-rip and transcode.

atreides93
28th February 2003, 17:41
It crashes 47% of the way through transcoding Stargate SG1 volume 1 disc 1

what a drag....i'm going to try using dvd2one on it now

nyplayer
28th February 2003, 17:51
ET NTSC Disc2 Crashes. Right away

schlaufer
28th February 2003, 22:13
Originally posted by ThaMan
SpiderMan Region 2 crashed

Hi,

I copied both disks of Spidey RC2. No real problems at all. The only oddity was, that IC bawks, if you try to reduce the quality of title 25 (or was it 26? one of the music titles) below 45%.

I copied everything of disk1 except the trailers (deselected in IC) and everything on disk2 except the french menus (ripped before IC with IfoEdit).

Cheers,
schlaufer

ZeroLimit
1st March 2003, 08:17
ok guys I posted that Lord Of The Rings Fellowship Of The Ring crashed instant copy well I keep playing with it so i notice the menu was 50% so i put it at 100% and it starts encoding and boom!!! it works. So if you have proglems with any movie just try to put the menu at 100% see if it helps u helped me wont hurt to try Good Luck!

jakie
2nd March 2003, 22:02
teenage mutant ninja turtles 3 crashes at 48 percent.

this sucks

MackemX
2nd March 2003, 22:18
Originally posted by jakie
teenage mutant ninja turtles 3 crashes at 48 percent.

this sucks
yeah you are right

the cartoon was great
the first movie was ok
the 2nd naff
but the 3rd, the magic was gone :D

ravenone_2000
3rd March 2003, 00:26
Rush Hour2 R1 Crashes at about 78%
The Great Mouse Detective R1

Both ripped w/ Decrypter in ISO (Complete DVD)
I then mount each(depending on which I am IC'ing) via DAEMON tools. Tested to make sure the ISO played and menus worked fine.

Mouse Detective: I tried a complete 1:1 copy since it was small enough, using the auto % compress. I removed all languages and subs except English.

RH2: I did remove the last 2 groups (6 & 7 I think) Bumped the main movie % compress to ~80%. Removed all sound trackes except Dolby5.1 and only kept english language and subs.

I'll try it again and make note of all settings.

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 00:29
Originally posted by ravenone_2000
Rush Hour2 R1 Crashes at about 78%
The Great Mouse Detective R1
little more info would be helpful

Originally posted by MisterX
for the people above with problems
are you all ripping the COMPLETE DVD using DVDDecypter in File mode or Smartripper in the same mode?
are you leaving the ripped files and then opening Instantcopy?
are you doing a complete 1:1 using InstantCopy

If the answer is yes to all 3 questions then sorry I cannot offer advice aprt from checking the actual settings in your ripping program are correct

If you think they are then post your settings and maybe I or someone else can help

what you ripped with and what settings
did u mod files before using IC
what you have stripped using IC
what % settings on movie etc
fault it showed or how it crashed & when
any other info you can think of

ravenone_2000
3rd March 2003, 00:42
Sorry, I edited my post w/ more details.

JonRead
3rd March 2003, 00:45
Chocky (a UK tv series on DVD). Crashed half way through. No point in going in to too much detail as NO one will ever try to copy this DVD except for me, haha, as no one has heard of it, but just thought I would add another one to the list.

ravenone_2000
3rd March 2003, 01:16
MisterX,

Here my setup details on this current trial of Rush Hour 2, R1. I'll post when completed if it worked or crashed. Sorry for the length :eek: , but I wanted to capture full details of the config.

7.0.0.91 w/ Reg Hack
Read Tab:
Data Read Speed: Auto
Audio Read Speed: Auto
Software Retries: 4
Checked - Hardware Retries 4
NO Check - Fixed Gaps
NO Check - Repair Subchannel

DVD tab:
Copy method: Customized Resize
Preferred Destination: Auto
CD Aspect Ratio: Auto
Advanced settings:
Remove DVD-Rom content
NO-CHECK on use online transcodign DB
Audio Streams: All but English checked
Sub titles: All but English checked
User Prohibitions: All UNchecked except(Forward Scan,Backward Scan,Menu: Title,Menu: Root,Navigation Buttons)

General tab:
Transfer mode: Auto
Error Hanlding: Stop Copying on read error
Options:
Disable Screensaver
After simulation: Start writing after confirmation
Programming interface type: ASAPI
Wriet Chace optimized for 7,650 KB
Temp Directory: C:\Temp\Video_Scratch

Processing tab: Nothing in it.

In customize disc:
Video Tracks all selected except where noted below
Audio_TS selected
No "common" or "win" items selected
Menu at 59.55%
Title 1&2 (Video Title set 1, main movie): 79.26% size, Only AC3 5.1 Audio selected, Enlgish subs selected
Title 3-5 (Video Title set 2), 48.15%
Title 6-36 (Video Title set 3), 48.15%
Title 37-46 (Video Title set 4), 48.15%
Title 47-75 (Video Title set 5), 48.15%
Title 76 (video Title set 5-dont know why it doesnt change with the rest of the set), 48.15%
Title 77 (video Title set 5-this one does change when I change 47-75 titles), 48.15%
Title 78 (video title set 6), 100% can't change since its only 5.57MB
Title 79-80 (video title set 7), UNCHECKED
title 81 (video Title set 8), Unchecked

Total Data Size: 4.39 GB (have to do F5 trick to continue)

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 01:19
Originally posted by ravenone_2000
only 5.57MB
Title 79-80 (video title set 7), UNCHECKED
title 81 (video Title set 8), Unchecked

Total Data Size: 4.39 GB (have to do F5 trick to continue)
arggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!

do not use IC to remove Titles, are people not listening? :D

especially the last few ones as these contain the logos etc and if they are missing the DVD goes t''s up!

what do they contain?

ravenone_2000
3rd March 2003, 01:31
Titles 79-80 Are the LOTR trailer preview
Title 81 is an Indee Film about something in New York.

One last question, if I use IfoEdit to remove the titles while the files are all in VOB type files, how do I get them back to ISO?

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 01:39
which version of DVD Decrypter are you using, I use 3.1.4.0@ default and rip in file mode selecting all files

then I would goto the ifo/VOB which has the trailer in and delete only the VOB ID (VOB extras, not delete playback) that refers to the trailer, nothing else. If it has 5 vob ID's but only one reference to the VOB ID for trailer delete just the one VOB ID, not all 5

then use PowerDVD to check all is ok when it get's to the bit you have removed

or just take that chance IC will do it for you :)

can I ask how many VOB ID's the trailer VOB has, and how many trailers there are in the VOB?

Antonio S.
3rd March 2003, 01:47
@MisterX:arggggggghhhhhhhhhhh! do not use IC to remove Titles, are people not listening? especially the last few ones as these contain the logos etc and if they are missing the DVD goes t''s up!
what do they contain?
I totally agree!!!

This "registry hack" thing DOESN'T WORK CORRECTLY!!! If this feature works correctly, it will be available when you install the program for the first time. Why would Pinnacle like to hide such option?
PEOPLE THINK!!!

Antonio S.

ravenone_2000
3rd March 2003, 01:48
Originally posted by MisterX
which version of DVD Decrypter are you using, I use 3.1.4.0@ default and rip in file mode selecting all files

then I would goto the ifo/VOB which has the trailer in and delete only the VOB ID (VOB extras, not delete playback) that refers to the trailer, nothing else. If it has 5 vob ID's but only one reference to the VOB ID for trailer delete just the one VOB ID, not all 5

then use PowerDVD to check all is ok when it get's to the bit you have removed

or just take that chance IC will do it for you :)

can I ask how many VOB ID's the trailer VOB has, and how many trailers there are in the VOB?

I'm using 3.1.4.0 also, with the defaults(except I use Brute Force/CSS selection)

I'll have to wait to check the ID's since IC is running on the ISO file right now and I don't want to do another RIP to possibly interrupt IC. Hopefully IC will work this time :)

BTW, per your previous post, there is not an ability to go into IC and look at the log like you were getting during a manual cancel.

p.s. Thanks for all the help in trying to trouble shoot this and everyone else problems w/ IC.

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 01:55
Originally posted by Antonio S.
@MisterX:
I totally agree!!!

This "registry hack" thing DOESN'T WORK CORRECTLY!!! If this feature works correctly, it will be available when you install the program for the first time. Why would Pinnacle like to hide such option?
PEOPLE THINK!!!

Antonio S.
hooray, someone agrees

maybe they did initailly plan on having it included but found it to be too buggy, so removed the feature but still released it until they sort out the problem :confused:

they advertise 1:1 backups not 0.99999:1 so unchecking even one Title containing a logo may have consequences depending on the contents of that VOB

Some VOB's contain more than one VOB ID, yet only seem to have one video scene, uncheck it in IC and it removes all VOB ID's and sometimes confuses the DVD player when it looks for missing VOB ID's

I cannot stress this enough

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 02:06
Originally posted by ravenone_2000
I'm using 3.1.4.0 also, with the defaults(except I use Brute Force/CSS selection)
there's a difference straight away, I do not use Force CSS
I will post pics of my settings in DVD Decrpyter

thats why I ask people to post as much info as poss :)

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 02:16
these are my DVD decrypter settings using XP

SETTINGS (http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/dvdd.htm)

selecting all files in file mode has worked just fine for me since I started using this version

ravenone_2000
3rd March 2003, 02:19
Originally posted by MisterX
there's a difference straight away, I do not use Force CSS
I will post pics of my settings in DVD Decrpyter

thats why I ask people to post as much info as poss :)


If you talking about the "Force CSS present" option, then no I don't have it checked. I have just the "Brute Force -> I/O Key Exchange" checked under the CSS Cracking Method.

p.s. The movie is at 67% now and finished the main movie without a crash. So, if the crash happens again, it is probably as you mention, a problem with removing the last two Title Sets.

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 02:22
Originally posted by ravenone_2000
If you talking about the "Force CSS present" option, then no I don't have it checked. I have just the "Brute Force -> I/O Key Exchange" checked under the CSS Cracking Method.

p.s. The movie is at 67% now and finished the main movie without a crash. So, if the crash happens again, it is probably as you mention, a problem with removing the last two Title Sets.
I have the "I/O Key Exchange -> Brute Force " checked under the CSS Cracking Method

HERE (http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/regedit/btfvobedit/dvdd/dvd6.gif)

ravenone_2000
3rd March 2003, 02:24
wow, your fast with the captures and web post. I compared and the only differences in my settings and yours are the above mentioned BruteForece/IO Key exchange and I don't have "Include PGC Number and Include Angle Number" in the File Names section.

ravenone_2000
3rd March 2003, 02:42
Okay it crashed again. 93% of Title set 3 (1.37 GB of 1.48GB), and 79% of the total.

Erorr is "MultiCopy has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience."

I the reporting details, under Error signature is has "AppName: multicopy.exe AppVer: 7.0.0.91 ModName: vobtrans.ax
ModVer: 1.0.0.29 Offset: 00031d1b"

Makes me wonder if the vobtrans.ax is the display it does during transcoding?

In checking the output files, It definitly made it further this time before the crash. I might also try the "turn off display" method listed in another post.

I'm going to try the IfoEdit route now.

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 03:14
are you using XP also?

I'm using a different interface, whatever it maybe :confused:

HERE (http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/regedit/btfvobedit/dvdd/dvd8.gif)

If you are using XP, try doing a problem DVD with those filemode DVDDecrypter settings I have posted and stick it straight into IC and keep all titles and see what happens

Keep all titles (just oversize IC by the extra that the unwanted titles are) and then you can just remove them after,so at least you know you are giving a good copy of the DVD to IC :)

The thing is your OS may be setup different to mine also :(

p.s. an example of deleting the VOB ID's incorrectly, I have just tried it

I have just come across an IFO and it has 16 VOB ID's, so I demuxed them all then drag and drop them into PowerDVD making sure the repeat is turned on

Then all I see is the warnings popping up, and flashing as they repeat so fast (repeat is needed and use drag and drop not double click to see files), if so I make a note so I know I can delete that VOB ID

the 1st VOB ID was just a blank screen nothing else yet if I deleted it, PowerDVD would not play DVD, it just hangs and the time on player just continues with just a black screen showing, instead of proceeding

All the rest where different language warnings so they were ok to delete but the 1st was needed

I hope you people know what I'm getting at :)

ravenone_2000
3rd March 2003, 03:34
yes, XP. Seems like a lot of people are having crashes with the vobtrans.ax part of IC. Even others that have done 1:1 backups.

ZeroLimit
3rd March 2003, 06:26
No errors here with dvddecryptor but I have mine on default should i change the settings keep in mind im a newbie hehe Thanks!

mrbass
3rd March 2003, 09:51
Unfaithful DVD please help me crash it...thanks
I just checked menus 100% and title 1 and 8. No crashes....maybe I'm an idiot cuz I can't get it to crash as so many people reported. R1 NTSC version. Here's my log.

Versions:
Operating System: Windows 2000 5.00 (Build 2195: Service Pack 3)
InstantCopy: 7.0.0.091 (2/05/03 3:15:54 PM)
CD-R Drivers: 6.4.3.089 (1/30/03 5:28:04 PM)
ISO/UDF Creator: 1.0.2.033 (12/12/02 2:46:00 PM)
ASAPI Interface: 5.0.0.002 (4/27/00 12:31:18 PM)

Source Device:

Settings:
Write method: Disc at Once
Closing method: Close CD
Write speed: Automatic (Recommended)
[ ] Write to hard disk first
[ ] Verify destination media after write
[ ] Fixed Gaps between tracks
[ ] Repair Subchannel data

Transfer Mode: Automatic (Recommended)
Error Handling: Ignore read errors
[ ] Use error seek
Error seek range: 20
[ ] Automatically create processing items

Reading Video Title Sets...
Could not load analyze data for disc: A4B427C980FB461B6181F91FE2344546-00046800
Getting audio data size 1 of 9
Getting audio data size 2 of 9
Getting audio data size 3 of 9
Getting audio data size 4 of 9
Getting audio data size 5 of 9
Getting audio data size 6 of 9
Getting audio data size 7 of 9
Getting audio data size 8 of 9
Getting audio data size 9 of 9
Nr Position Length Pre Post Se Sector Mode
---------------------------------------------
01 0 2,464,153 150 150 1 Mode 1 ISO
---------------------------------------------
1 Track(s), 2,464,453 sectors total data length
Copying contents to hard drive
Reading Video Data from source
Analyzing Main Menu
Analyzing Menu 1 of 9
Analyzing video title set 1 of 9
Analyzing Menu 2 of 9
Analyzing video title set 2 of 9
Analyzing Menu 3 of 9
Analyzing video title set 3 of 9
Reading video
Testing video quality part 1 of 1 (Phase 1/3)
Testing video quality part 1 of 1 (Phase 2/3)
Testing video quality part 1 of 1 (Phase 3/3)
Analyzing Menu 4 of 9
Analyzing video title set 4 of 9
Reading video
Testing video quality part 1 of 1 (Phase 1/3)
Testing video quality part 1 of 1 (Phase 2/3)
Testing video quality part 1 of 1 (Phase 3/3)
Analyzing Menu 5 of 9
Analyzing video title set 5 of 9
Reading video
Testing video quality part 1 of 4 (Phase 1/3)
Testing video quality part 1 of 4 (Phase 2/3)
Testing video quality part 1 of 4 (Phase 3/3)
Testing video quality part 2 of 4 (Phase 1/3)
Testing video quality part 2 of 4 (Phase 2/3)
Testing video quality part 2 of 4 (Phase 3/3)
Testing video quality part 3 of 4 (Phase 1/3)
Testing video quality part 3 of 4 (Phase 2/3)
Testing video quality part 3 of 4 (Phase 3/3)
Testing video quality part 4 of 4 (Phase 1/3)
Testing video quality part 4 of 4 (Phase 2/3)
Testing video quality part 4 of 4 (Phase 3/3)
Analyzing Menu 6 of 9
Analyzing video title set 6 of 9
Analyzing Menu 7 of 9
Analyzing video title set 7 of 9
Reading video
Testing video quality part 1 of 3 (Phase 1/3)
Testing video quality part 1 of 3 (Phase 2/3)
Testing video quality part 1 of 3 (Phase 3/3)
Testing video quality part 2 of 3 (Phase 1/3)
Testing video quality part 2 of 3 (Phase 2/3)
Testing video quality part 2 of 3 (Phase 3/3)
Testing video quality part 3 of 3 (Phase 1/3)
Testing video quality part 3 of 3 (Phase 2/3)
Testing video quality part 3 of 3 (Phase 3/3)
Analyzing Menu 8 of 9
Analyzing video title set 8 of 9
Reading video
Testing video quality part 1 of 2 (Phase 1/3)
Testing video quality part 1 of 2 (Phase 2/3)
Testing video quality part 1 of 2 (Phase 3/3)
Testing video quality part 2 of 2 (Phase 1/3)
Testing video quality part 2 of 2 (Phase 2/3)
Testing video quality part 2 of 2 (Phase 3/3)
Analyzing Menu 9 of 9
Analyzing video title set 9 of 9
Video title set 1 quality: 0
Video title set 2 quality: 0
Video title set 3 quality: 0
Video title set 4 quality: 0
Video title set 5 quality: 0
Video title set 6 quality: 0
Video title set 7 quality: 0
Video title set 8 quality: 0
Video title set 9 quality: 0
Reading Main Menu
Initializing...
Reading...
MULTIPLEX: Video: 892 Audio: 4 NavPackets: 13
Reading Menu 1 of 9
Initializing...
Reading...
MULTIPLEX: Video: 222 Audio: 0 NavPackets: 2
Reading Video Data 1 of 9
Initializing...
Reading Video Data 2 of 9
Initializing...
Reading Video Data 3 of 9
Initializing...
Reading...
MULTIPLEX: Video: 4 Audio: 0 NavPackets: 1
Reading Video Data 4 of 9
Initializing...
Reading Video Data 5 of 9
Initializing...
Reading...
MULTIPLEX: Video: 62684 Audio: 6906 NavPackets: 1164
Reading Menu 6 of 9
Initializing...
Reading...
MULTIPLEX: Video: 27157 Audio: 1396 NavPackets: 288
Reading Video Data 6 of 9
Initializing...
Reading...
MULTIPLEX: Video: 1957491 Audio: 297030 NavPackets: 14316
Reading Video Data 7 of 9
Initializing...
Reading...
MULTIPLEX: Video: 34807 Audio: 1536 NavPackets: 245
Reading Video Data 8 of 9
Initializing...
Reading Video Data 9 of 9
Initializing...

mrbass
3rd March 2003, 10:00
just read this....hello but that is a HUGE NO NO
[X] Repair Subchannel data
You don't repair subchannel data....that stuff is for game cds and copy protection, etc. NOT DVDs. Read IC7 manual if you wish.

Do not have it error correct....any error correcting is done when it goes from DVD to HD with dvddecrypter. Do not have it generate sectors it thinks are bad, etc.
[X] Automatically create processing items

Both of these I've recommended NOT to enable in my guide since the beginning. Perhaps I should highlight them in red perhaps.


Originally posted by MisterX
If IC crashes during processing but then returns to the Device Selection window, will it let you click on the Details button and if so does it say anything in the LOG tab?. I get this below when I cancel manually

Versions:
Operating System: Windows 2000 5.01 (Build 2600: )
InstantCopy: 7.0.0.091 (05/02/2003 15:15:54)
CD-R Drivers: 6.4.3.089 (30/01/2003 17:28:04)
ISO/UDF Creator: 1.0.2.033 (12/12/2002 14:46:00)
ASAPI Interface: 5.0.0.002 (27/04/2000 12:31:18)

Source Device:

Settings:
Write method: Automatic (Recommended)
Closing method: Automatic (Recommended)
Write speed: Automatic (Recommended)
[ ] Write to hard disk first
[ ] Verify destination media after write
[ ] Fixed Gaps between tracks
[X] Repair Subchannel data

Transfer Mode: Automatic (Recommended)
Error Handling: Stop copying on read error
[ ] Use error seek
Error seek range: 0
[X] Automatically create processing items

Reading Video Title Sets...
Loaded analyze data for disc: 6F0887A19C29B5A2C6C8DA0C7F15A0D8-0002F800
Nr Position Length Pre Post Se Sector Mode
---------------------------------------------
01 0 2,464,153 150 150 1 Mode 1 ISO
---------------------------------------------
1 Track(s), 2,464,453 sectors total data length
Copying contents to hard drive
Reading Video Data from source
Analyzing Main Menu
Analyzing Menu 1 of 4
Analyzing video title set 1 of 4
Analyzing Menu 2 of 4
Analyzing video title set 2 of 4
Analyzing Menu 3 of 4
Analyzing video title set 3 of 4
Analyzing Menu 4 of 4
Analyzing video title set 4 of 4
Video title set 1 quality: 0
Video title set 2 quality: 0
Video title set 3 quality: 0
Video title set 4 quality: 0
Reading Main Menu
Initializing...
Reading...
MULTIPLEX: Video: 110 Audio: 0 NavPackets: 6
Reading Menu 1 of 4
Initializing...
Reading...

and does anyone know exactly what the Processing tab is for?(is it just relating to the burning?)

or could it be for problem discs as when you click on NEW button it gives a list of Exclude, Mark Error, Patch, Skip Track

and if you click LOAD it shows Copy Control Information files are needed, whatever they are

cheers [/B]

mrbass
3rd March 2003, 10:08
Originally posted by ravenone_2000
MisterX,

Here my setup details on this current trial of Rush Hour 2, R1. I'll post when completed if it worked or crashed. Sorry for the length :eek: , but I wanted to capture full details of the config.

7.0.0.91 w/ Reg Hack
Read Tab:
Data Read Speed: Auto
Audio Read Speed: Auto
Software Retries: 4
Checked - Hardware Retries 4
NO Check - Fixed Gaps
NO Check - Repair Subchannel

very good


DVD tab:
Copy method: Customized Resize
Preferred Destination: Auto
CD Aspect Ratio: Auto
Advanced settings:
Remove DVD-Rom content
NO-CHECK on use online transcodign DB
Audio Streams: All but English checked
Sub titles: All but English checked
User Prohibitions: All UNchecked except(Forward Scan,Backward Scan,Menu: Title,Menu: Root,Navigation Buttons)

General tab:
Transfer mode: Auto
Error Hanlding: Stop Copying on read error

DO NOT have it do that...set to Ignore read errors

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 11:39
Originally posted by mrbass
very good


DO NOT have it do that...set to Ignore read errors
I'm confused, are you suggesting I should change those 2 options :confused:

It is not an option when using a IFO file from HD, as it's greyed. I use file mode with DVD Decrypter, and what that refers to is either copying from a DVD or ISO image, then it gives the option, so for me it is irrelevant whether it's ticked or not

so that's why I still recommend people use Filemode with DVD Decrypter 3.1.4.0 with settings as shown HERE (http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/dvdd.htm) because IC has never crapped out on me in 35 backups now and works everytime

good suggestion tho as it probably will disrupt IC if it does come across an error if people are using ISO mode

surely if it works for me why don't you try it

I will also post pics of all my settings within IC as I have changed a couple, to go with DVD Decrypter ones above, so people can basically use the same setup I have and see if they get the same 100% success rate I enjoy :)

dumb13
3rd March 2003, 11:50
Just tried to back-up Spartacus RC2 PAL DVD, and IC has crashed right after the very few frames of the main title. I could reproduce the error, and it turned out, that the cause is most problably the following: Righ after the "Overture" (a few seconds) there is about a three minutes blank screen, and only music is heard. IC does not seem to tolerate this long black period in the video signal.

D21 and DVDXCopy just do the back-up without any problems

regards
dumb

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 12:03
I'm using XP and here are my DVD Decrypter 3.1.4.0 settings

HERE (http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/dvdd.htm)

and these are my IC 7.0.0.91 settings

HERE (http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/icset.htm)

Try these settings and give IC the DVD as it ripped, selecting all titles using notes below

things to note:

1) Do not use IC to strip Titles

2) When you start IC please check all the correct AUDIO/SUBS are selected as it does not do it properly everytime, especially the later titles

3) Try to keep menu at least 60% or more (50% also works but quality suffers), and min 50% for extras (go less if quality ain't an issue but no lower than 40%)

4) Keep small Titles less than 100MB at least 50%

works everytime for me no matter what I throw at it :D

that's as much as I can say for now as everyones OS & DVD knowledge is different, so no doubt people will still report it does not work but for the majority it should work so don't knock it till you've tried it :)

Hope it helps and I will keep trying to help you get the same results as me :)

valnar
3rd March 2003, 12:56
Here's another problem with Rocky Horror & IC.

I noticed that it makes the first part of the movie, like the first 15 minutes, all black & white. The color is gone.

Anyone else seen that?

Robert

ddepuemd
3rd March 2003, 13:00
No matter how I set the options for DVD Decrypt and/or PIC, it fails every time with Lord of the Rings.

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 14:01
Originally posted by ddepuemd
No matter how I set the options for DVD Decrypt and/or PIC, it fails every time with Lord of the Rings.
are you using XP and if you are, are your settings are like mine above?

are you 'Butchering' the DVD before you give it to IC?

are you selecting all titles within IC?

are all the audio/subs are correctly selected in each Title when starting IC as it misses some out in later Titles

what is the exact problem as you haven't given much info :)

ddepuemd
3rd March 2003, 14:14
are you using XP and if you are, are your settings are like mine above?

- I am using XP Pro on a dual Athlon machine.

are you 'Butchering' the DVD before you give it to IC?

- What do you mean by butchering? I decrypt all files to a directory or the entire DVD to an ISO file and do not touch it at all before presenting it to IC.

are you selecting all titles within IC?
- Yes, I have tried to do it both ways.

are all the audio/subs are correctly selected in each Title when starting IC as it misses some out in later Titles
- Yes all are selected

what is the exact problem as you haven't given much info
- The program abends with the same error as mentioned by others - MultiCopy had to terminate.

Any help??

Dean

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 14:26
Originally posted by ddepuemd
What do you mean by butchering? I decrypt all files to a directory or the entire DVD to an ISO file and do not touch it at all before presenting it to IC.
Butchering is just something I came up with, really it's just stripping :). So I am right in thinking you are ripping DVD then putting it straight into IC, selecting all Titles without modifying in anyway, (this is the correct method)

how far into process does it fail?

are your DVDDecrpyter settings exactly the same for each pic as shown in my link above?, also the same regarding IC?. If not set them to the same as mine

What % is the menu set at? and what are your lowest % settings. Using low % settings for small Titles may create problems

My mother has the 4 Disc version of LOTR, is this the same as yours? as if it is I am willing to try it for you sometime soon, but it is down my list at the moment

I do not know how a Dual CPU may affect it, if at all, but disregard that for now

ravenone_2000
3rd March 2003, 17:47
Well, it crashed again at the exact same point as last time. This time I didn't remove a single thing, not even extra languages or subs. Tonight I'll try the IFO file way.

MisterX, When you do the IFO files, do you use IC to burn and if so, does it grab the Audio_TS for you since its not a choice in IC during the compression? When I do an ISO file, I can select Audio_TS to make sure I get it.

abatis
3rd March 2003, 19:00
On Rocky Horror Picture Show,

There is a menu option to get the first part of the picture, I think up to when they show at the Dr Fs, in B&W. It must have picked that option up.

Velcrohead
3rd March 2003, 20:38
Originally posted by madmandiaz
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back - 2nd disc R1

just out of interest, does it crash at 92 %?

dogyears
3rd March 2003, 22:21
Barber Shop- region 1...kept causing IC to crash

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 23:09
Originally posted by ravenone_2000
Well, it crashed again at the exact same point as last time. This time I didn't remove a single thing, not even extra languages or subs. Tonight I'll try the IFO file way.

MisterX, When you do the IFO files, do you use IC to burn and if so, does it grab the Audio_TS for you since its not a choice in IC during the compression? When I do an ISO file, I can select Audio_TS to make sure I get it.

Ifo file , you do not mean File mode?. I use file mode and select all files

I do not have an AUDIO_TS folder as I use DVD-VIDEO mode in Nero and it creates it all for me, I have created a blank .nrd file so I all I do is just open this file in the recnt docs bit and it sets it all up. All I do is just drop the files into VIDEO_TS folder and name disc, 10 seconds work, just as quick as burning a CD :)

I know some people have issues with Nero but again I think it mostly down to OS setup & Nero's version & settings as all my DVD's so far have had no problems or coasters

this is a pic of the results I get when testing quality of media after burning @ 4X HERE (http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/icpic/sam.gif), so nothing wrong with Nero for me and I use the cheap unbranded Ritek G04's :)

ZeroLimit
4th March 2003, 07:42
I riped Lord Of The Rings and works great, no problem with DVDDecryptor might be scratched to much. I couldn't rip Back To The Future I only did II and III it was scratched like a mofo so maybe its that

ddepuemd
4th March 2003, 14:44
I made a copy of City By The Sea, no problems with ripping with DVD Decrypt, then making smaller with Instant, then making ISO image with PDI2ISO, then burn with DVD Decrypt. The DVD will play in my computer or my stand alone Pioneer, but not in my Sony changer. Does anyone know why?

MackemX
4th March 2003, 14:47
Originally posted by ddepuemd
I made a copy of City By The Sea, no problems with ripping with DVD Decrypt, then making smaller with Instant, then making ISO image with PDI2ISO, then burn with DVD Decrypt. The DVD will play in my computer or my stand alone Pioneer, but not in my Sony changer. Does anyone know why?
do the same brand DVD's play in the SONY DVD player, as sometimes DVD players are fussy regarding brans of DVD media

ddepuemd
4th March 2003, 15:07
Yeah, I am using Verbatim DVD-R. I have more than 25 of them now in my changer and they work fine. I even made a UDF version with Nero, which has worked before, but that didn't work either.
I'm not really familiar with the difference between the ISO and UDF version of DVD anyway. Both play in my Pioneer. Does the Sony not support ISO?

Oneiroxy
5th March 2003, 19:48
2001: A Space Odyssey

Crashed at 98% right after the "THE END"!
I tried:
-ISO from DVDDecr (1:1 copy)
-ISO from DVDDecr (stripping titles)
-File mode from SMARTRipper (1:1 copy)
-IFOedit stripping everything down to bare minimum (movie only)
-IFOedit subtracting the last VOBids (after the "THE END" segment)

I am planning on trying a "file mode" from DVDDecr (on 1:1 copy) some other time, but at the moment only crashes for this film (only other option split to 2 dvds)

After "THE END" there is a 3 minute black period and then 4 minute of soundless clips this could be the problem but stripping their IDs did not help (I might have done it incorrectly through IFOedit!)

MackemX
5th March 2003, 19:52
Originally posted by Oneiroxy
2001: A Space Odyssey

Crashed at 98% right after the "THE END"!
I tried:
-ISO from DVDDecr (1:1 copy)
-ISO from DVDDecr (stripping titles)
-File mode from SMARTRipper (1:1 copy)
-IFOedit stripping everything down to bare minimum (movie only)
-IFOedit subtracting the last VOBids (after the "THE END" segment)

I am planning on trying a "file mode" from DVDDecr (on 1:1 copy) some other time, but at the moment only crashes for this film (only other option split to 2 dvds)

After "THE END" there is a 3 minute black period and then 4 minute of soundless clips this could be the problem but stripping their IDs did not help (I might have done it incorrectly through IFOedit!)
I think you may have just answered your own problem, if that is the case strip them after

or you could always try my guides for DVDDecrypter & Ifoedit to make sure the DVD structure is maintained so IC will not crash when it comes to an invalid reference

link in sig :)

Vertigo1
6th March 2003, 08:41
24 Season 1 box-set (R2), disc 1 :(

Tried ripping as ISO and FILE, no joy either way. Fails right at end:

(100%)
(100%)
45 of 45 Packets processed
Reading Video Data 3 of 3
Copy 1 of 1

DAMAGE: after Normal block (#33738) at 0x6E00040

Disc3 also fails, but oddly Disc2 is fine !?

MackemX
6th March 2003, 15:47
Originally posted by Vertigo1
24 Season 1 box-set (R2), disc 1 :(

Tried ripping as ISO and FILE, no joy either way. Fails right at end:

(100%)
(100%)
45 of 45 Packets processed
Reading Video Data 3 of 3
Copy 1 of 1

DAMAGE: after Normal block (#33738) at 0x6E00040

Disc3 also fails, but oddly Disc2 is fine !?

u tried the same settings for DVDDecrypter & IC I use to rip as shown in my guide?

does it crash the same place on both 1 & 3?

Vertigo1
6th March 2003, 20:40
Yes I used the settings you posted. I'm not sure whether disc3 went in the same place as 1, but I think it did. I'll try it again when I get a chance.

This is using the demo version btw, if that makes a difference. I'm very interested in this software, and have been evaluating it with a view to purchase, but so far I'm afraid it fails on too many discs to warrant buying :(

Drubbel
6th March 2003, 21:53
Just some tricks I learned when working with InstantCopy and some problem movies /starwarsII/Shrek Region 2

These movies had different Angels (Multiangel) and in order to make them run with InstantCopy I needed to remove all Angels exept 1 with Infoedit.

If I didnt do that InstantCopy would process these movies untill the first multiangel chapter and then close stating that the process was succesfully done (but in fact there was almost full movie left to process).

Also if I stripped the Multinangels the Layer Break is removed !


:)

valnar
6th March 2003, 22:55
Has anyone revisited these problem movies with MisterX's Ifoedit/IC guide? I still have no success with Rocky Horror. :(

-Robert

Vertigo1
7th March 2003, 08:41
DOH!!!

I went through my IC settings with a fine-toothed comb, and discovered that on the language and subtitle settings, I'd checked everything, thinking I was specifying what to INCLUDE, not EXCLUDE.

IC was obviously getting a tad upset at me for removing all languages and subtitles.

Disc1 now works, am going to try 3 shortly. Not sure what happened with 2, maybe I had those settings correct when I did that one.

MackemX
7th March 2003, 17:34
Originally posted by Vertigo1
DOH!!!

I went through my IC settings with a fine-toothed comb, and discovered that on the language and subtitle settings, I'd checked everything, thinking I was specifying what to INCLUDE, not EXCLUDE.

IC was obviously getting a tad upset at me for removing all languages and subtitles.

Disc1 now works, am going to try 3 shortly. Not sure what happened with 2, maybe I had those settings correct when I did that one.

It's in my IC settings about the subs & audio, yet you sed you tried em :confused:, maybe it want there, but at least it's sorted

IC settings (http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/GUIDE/ics.htm)

I'm not saying it works for everyone, but you should have less problem DVD's if you use DVDDecrypter & Instantcopy settings that I suggest

Valnar :( still no success with RHPS, wish I could suggest something, all I can think isfor you to use Ifoedit to strip audio/subs and give IC just the task of transcoding and make sure every Title/audio/sub is checked. Have you noticed that the auto select of audio/subs sometimes misses certain audio/subs?

or you could strip the B/W option out and try that

ddepuemd, did you get LOTR to work?

Oneiroxy, did you get 2001 to work?

could people post if they did successfully get it to work, so others can see how they did it :)

Vertigo1
7th March 2003, 18:48
Originally posted by MisterX
It's in my IC settings about the subs & audio, yet you sed you tried em :confused:, maybe it want there, but at least it's sorted
Yeah I know, I sort of skimmed over that bit when I read it as I figured even I couldn't mess that up!:rolleyes:

All seems to be working ok now, although I'm still baffled as to why the size estimation is so bad. Leaving it to it's own devices gave me a final image well under 4GB.

Using Disc1 of the 24 set, and a bit of trial and error, I've found that pushing the percentage of each of the four main titles up until the overall size reads around 4.9GB will actually give me a full 4.37GB image.

The size IC gives seems to be over-estimating by approximately 12% on these discs, is this a typical over-estimate percentage that I can apply generally, or will each disc be different?

MackemX
7th March 2003, 21:12
its normally 7-9% for the main movie, but it's the extras that cause the problems

I have seen a 200MB file with a predicted filesize of 100MB @50% come out at 195MB!. That was the Grinch

all depends on the disc and what is contained in the Title video

so thats why I use the recorder I have uploaded, to input the original sizes, the predicted and the outcome

I can then use these for the 2nd run

the best way to do it normally is set up the menu & extras 1st at your preferred values

the slide the main movie title upto 4.32Gb predicted, and see what the predicted filsize is (figure outside the brackets) and add 8% of that to 4.32GB

you can always correct the outcome by adjusting the extras and replacing them

tells you howto in the guide

kenstone
7th March 2003, 21:45
just a thought you all seem to be using dvddecrypter have you tried smartripper along with ic? works for me ps i am a newbie so if i'm talking shit be gentle

Oneiroxy
8th March 2003, 04:10
MisterX wrote:
Oneiroxy, did you get 2001 to work?

Unfortunately nothing worked! I have kept the file & ISO images in the drive so I can play around whenever (since it takes 20-25 minutes to re-copy from the original everytime) but I have lost faith on that film & IC for the moment. I am planning to purchase the DVD95COPY and have some attempts with it! (BTW MisterX I followed your guides but nothing seemed to work on this film... otherwise other films work a charm! Should say nice work on the web-page)

Oneiroxy
9th March 2003, 19:46
I managed to make IC to work on the 2001 space... by stripping the ending titles completely (sacrificing the last second of the movie, which is together with the titles!). The transition between the 16:9 to 4:3 at the end of the titles caused the errors.

It is fair to say that IC cannot handle these transitions, so watch out for them in films to avoid future crashes.

i@videocontrols.co.uk
10th March 2003, 11:53
:confused:

Tried to use IC to resize "The Sweetest Thing" (R2). Did all the stuff upto the main movie, then just bombs out with an illegal operation error. At the same point every time I tried - the pdi file was at 668MB......Any ideas peoples?

MackemX
10th March 2003, 12:02
Originally posted by i@videocontrols.co.uk
:confused:

Tried to use IC to resize "The Sweetest Thing" (R2). Did all the stuff upto the main movie, then just bombs out with an illegal operation error. At the same point every time I tried - the pdi file was at 668MB......Any ideas peoples?
just a few questions before I offer suggestions:

what OS you got
what version of IC
what you ripped with and what settings
did u mod files before using IC
what you have stripped using IC
what % settings on movie etc
exact fault it showed or how it crashed & when
any other info you can think of

i@videocontrols.co.uk
10th March 2003, 12:28
Originally posted by MisterX
just a few questions before I offer suggestions:

what OS you got
what version of IC
what you ripped with and what settings
did u mod files before using IC
what you have stripped using IC
what % settings on movie etc
exact fault it showed or how it crashed & when
any other info you can think of

OS - win XP Pro SP1
What I Ripped - The entire movie (extras, the lot)
Did I mod the files - NOPE
What have I stripped using IC - NOTHING
What % settings - Movie 80%, extras 65%
exact fault - Didn't remove anything from movie - ripped the whole disc using DVD Decrypter in File mode onto Hard disc. Ran IC, didn't alter anything except the sizing of the extras and movie. Hit GO - started fine, got to 668MB and I got a "Multicopy has performed an illegal operation and needs to be shut down" upon checking the error occured in the vobtrans.ocx file. I am using 7.00.091 (The Latest version)

Thanks Mister X!

:D :D :D :D

MackemX
10th March 2003, 12:44
cheers for answers

nothing unusual in that lot :(, apart from checking your DVDdecrypter and IC settings, have you tried mine?

so it's as soon as it starts processing the movie it bombs?, or is it the backend of the menu?, the log file may be handy to see exactly when it bombs

you can autosave it, using a simple reg change, cant remember link to my post, but it's simple to do

is there anything unusual about the beginning of the movie Title 1 or whichever Title is is crashing on?

i@videocontrols.co.uk
10th March 2003, 13:42
Originally posted by MisterX
cheers for answers

nothing unusual in that lot :(, apart from checking your DVDdecrypter and IC settings, have you tried mine?

so it's as soon as it starts processing the movie it bombs?, or is it the backend of the menu?, the log file may be handy to see exactly when it bombs

you can autosave it, using a simple reg change, cant remember link to my post, but it's simple to do

is there anything unusual about the beginning of the movie Title 1 or whichever Title is is crashing on?

I just tried again to transcode and exactly the same thing happens - i was wrong before - it's 662MB not 668 :(

Anyways - it does all the extras first, because the main movie is in vob title 10. It does all the extras no problems, burbles away, then bombs just after it starts the main movie - it does all the menu, the usual gumpf at the start of a film, then just bombs...

HEEEEEELLLLLPPPP!!

:confused: :confused: :confused:

MackemX
10th March 2003, 14:08
try just the menu @100% & movie Title @ 100% so it just transfers it and uncheck skip the extras

just to see if it does the job or not

this is all for test purposes :)

i@videocontrols.co.uk
10th March 2003, 15:19
Originally posted by MisterX
try just the menu @100% & movie Title @ 100% so it just transfers it and uncheck skip the extras

just to see if it does the job or not

this is all for test purposes :)

Tried what you said - did exactly the same thing. Oddly, although the movie is in VOB10, IC sees it as Title 1, but then processes all the extras first, then the movie. The movie appears to get confused on one of the menus at the start of the film, it seems to stop for a while although the disc is still whirring away, then starts up on the menu, then bombs. I've got the image for you, although unfortunately IC didn't copy the image into the file....... let me know your email and i'll send it to you

Any help would be great.....

:confused: :( :confused: :(

MackemX
10th March 2003, 15:30
what exactly is the image? a picture or a file?

i@videocontrols.co.uk
10th March 2003, 15:42
it's just a screen dump of the screen and error message

MackemX
10th March 2003, 15:44
check pm :)

pommy
11th March 2003, 10:01
after reading all these problems ppl are having i find it very surprising i've done about 70 films sincs ic came onto the market and not had a single problem with any of them . i mean that. and that includes tv series, all regions , scratched, everything works great,

it seems that the problems that are ocurring are closer to home and should not always be put onto ic


:)

cheers ears

chris

valnar
11th March 2003, 12:38
Originally posted by pommy
after reading all these problems ppl are having i find it very surprising i've done about 70 films sincs ic came onto the market and not had a single problem with any of them . i mean that. and that includes tv series, all regions , scratched, everything works great,

it seems that the problems that are ocurring are closer to home and should not always be put onto ic

chris

Did you have success with any of the movies people report as problems?

Robert

abatis
11th March 2003, 15:51
I struggled with IC and DVD95Copy only to find that my machine setup was the real problem. After a crash and fairly thourough restore job, the problems have disappeared - same software. Often times softwares maybe conflicting with other software. This happens more often than people think.

yomper
13th March 2003, 12:08
Originally posted by nyplayer
Movies that have caused InstantCopy to Crash

Reservior Dogs
The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

I was able to backup using DVD2One
i have copied rocky horrow picture show with instant copy and it was fine woth me, just thought id let u know

valnar
13th March 2003, 12:26
Originally posted by yomper
i have copied rocky horrow picture show with instant copy and it was fine woth me, just thought id let u know

What? HOW???!!

-Robert

EDIT: I finally gave up on IC, for THIS title only, and used DVD95Copy in conjunction with Ifoedit. I finally have a backup now.

SkyCAM
13th March 2003, 14:09
I experienced a strange msg telling me IC couldnt process CSS from disc while i most certainly stripped it. The main movie encoded just fine just the extra material caused this problem. I reripped the whole disc to hdd but no difference. Does anyone had similiar problems with other Disney titles perhaps?
From what i can tell the problem is centered around the DVD player game that is included on the disc.
Other than that i must say i encoded over a hundred movies with no errors whatsoever so far *knocks-on-wood*.
SmartRipper is definately the #1 choice followed by vStrip for specific PBC ripping :P

falves
13th March 2003, 19:43
I'm having a heck of a time trying to use IC on Signs: Special Edition (R1). Either it will hang when analyzing some part of the menu structure, or if I set the menu to 100%, it hangs at the very end of the job, around 97-99%. Has anyone tried this movie with success? :confused:

Drubbel
14th March 2003, 00:46
Falves I did Signs Region 2

But first I had to remove MultiAngle in VTS_9 with IfoEdit or IC would report (Corrupt DVD) when trying to load the movie into IC.

I Don't know if its the same with Region 1 but since the MultiAngle is in VTS_9 and there only was 10 VTS I would suspect that this can have something to do with your problem.

Just load VIDEO_TS.Ifo in IfoEdit and check if you have multiangles in any VTS

Hope this helps some !

falves
14th March 2003, 01:04
Drubbel,

The version of Signs I have is definitely different than yours. Mine has 15 VTSs, but I think you're on to something about a multi-angle issue. My version does have multi-angle features in one of the extras, so this could be part of the problem...

I hope Pinnacle looks into some of these more obscure issues with IC. Obviously, if you start removing titles from your backups, that could cause problems. But I always leave in all titles; I just choose different compression settings for different title sets so I can maximize the quality of the movie itself.

In theory, I would think that as long as all pieces of the disc are present and all you're doing is transcoding the video to a smaller size, it should function with no problems. Unfortunately, I'm not an expert DVD author and not a programmer, so I can only hope that those who are (hello Pinnacle experts) can fix these issues in a future release! :p

Drubbel
14th March 2003, 01:22
Falves you dont have to remove any Titels to make this work !

You just need to open the IFO for the VOB that contains the MultiAngle in IfoEdit and then click on Strip Stream.
Then on the next screen dont touch anything exept :

Check remove Angle mark and choose what Angle to keep next to the check.

Nothing more just these simple steps, then just check everything that you want to keep on the next screen Audio/subtitles.
After that you will get a strip VOBId screen where IFOEDIT automaticly will choose right Angle VOBId to keep and the rest unchecked !!

And thats all just try it Im sure you will get it to work.


After Ifoedit corrects everything and makes the new vob/ifo/bup-files
copy them to your old Signs Directory and replace the old files with new ones.

End of Story

;)

I have done this on many MultiAngle Titles using this method and it always worked for me I have also watched some of the movies after this and all where working correct on my standalone.

falves
14th March 2003, 01:30
I'll give this a try when I get home tonight. Thanks!

falves
14th March 2003, 19:33
Drubbel,

I didn't try your suggestion above, but I did fix my problem with this disc last night!

See my post on this thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=278584#post278584

I hope this helps others! :)

Odeum
12th April 2003, 16:52
Was able to copy Reservoir Dogs using Instant Copy. Had same problems as everyone, it would crash when it got to minute 45 of the movie. THe problem is that there is a 20 second total black screen, pause in the movie, at this point. IC cant cope with this.

HOWEVER I did copy the movie using IC, first off the movie is the 10th aniversery special, Wide Screen Disc.
I took out spanish subtitles, and directors commentary. I also took out a mini-documentry that was in the movie. It was kind of like the behind the scenes, but it went back to the filming location with a home cam and began to shoot....
YADA YADA YADA, i took that out, left the trailers and other small stuff.
THe compression level of the movie itself was 95%, the other extras I left in were at 50%.
Title menu at 100%.
All fit on 1 disc. All went flawlessly.

yodayoda
14th April 2003, 06:15
Originally posted by Oneiroxy
2001: A Space Odyssey

Crashed at 98% right after the "THE END"!
I tried:
-ISO from DVDDecr (1:1 copy)
-ISO from DVDDecr (stripping titles)
-File mode from SMARTRipper (1:1 copy)
-IFOedit stripping everything down to bare minimum (movie only)
-IFOedit subtracting the last VOBids (after the "THE END" segment)

I am planning on trying a "file mode" from DVDDecr (on 1:1 copy) some other time, but at the moment only crashes for this film (only other option split to 2 dvds)

After "THE END" there is a 3 minute black period and then 4 minute of soundless clips this could be the problem but stripping their IDs did not help (I might have done it incorrectly through IFOedit!)

yes, you are correct, the problem is the long pause of black. IC stops working and thinks there is an error when it encounters this. just like on simpsons season 2, disc 4. search the forums for "simpsons" and you will see MisterX's fix. it should work for you too.

leopardone
15th April 2003, 08:14
Cleopatra.

IC7 starts to analize and... disappear! :(
Done with cce