Movies that cause InstantCopy to crash

[nyplayer]

Movies that have caused InstantCopy to Crash

Reservior Dogs
The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

I was able to backup using DVD2One

[MrDVD]

Snowdogs PAL - IC7 abort at the begin of Titelset 3 :(

[mookyking]

tenchi GXP disk1
rahxephon disk2 (hong kong)

[mhz]

My IC v7.0.0.91 crased with "Gone in 60 seconds"

[ThaMan]

SpiderMan Region 2 crashed

[The-PJ]

What was the error msg? Something like "List index out of Bounds"? If so, I believe that is caused by a VOBID not referenced in the .IFO.

[MackemX]

for the people above with problems
are you all ripping the COMPLETE DVD using DVDDecypter in File mode or Smartripper in the same mode?
are you leaving the ripped files and then opening Instantcopy?
are you doing a complete 1:1 using InstantCopy

If the answer is yes to all 3 questions then sorry I cannot offer advice aprt from checking the actual settings in your ripping program are correct

If you think they are then post your settings and maybe I or someone else can help

what you ripped with and what settings
did u mod files before using IC
what you have stripped using IC
what % settings on movie etc
fault it showed or how it crashed & when
any other info you can think of

I think DVDDecrypter is the better ripping program in File mode, no problems for me since I began using it ages & ages ago

If you are actually modifying files before using IC I have found that using the delete playback button in ifoedit causes problems for IC as it displays the Out Of Bounds warning

I first came across OOB when I deleted the warning/logo/trailers etc using DELETE PLAYBACK in ifoedit after ripping, (the shortcut way)

removing anything using the delete playback in ifoedit InstantCopy will display OOB warning as it firstly checks all ifo's and using this button makes the ifo file incorrect somehow

yet if you play the DVD using PowerDVD it's ok and will probably still play in a standalone aswell but basically IC don't like it

to delete all the usual intros at the beginnning, 1st find the VOB ID using either ifoedit preview or vobrator and remove the VOB ID's using the Menu/VOB extras buttons and strp them so it rebuilds the VOB's and updates the IFO/BUP files

It's best to make backups of the files you are modifying (IFO/BUP/VOB), just in case it doesn't work properly. This is just in case it goes wrong you can always rebuild the DVD without ripping again

Personally I think it's better to strip everything out 1st (audio/subs/unwanted VOB ID's) using ifoedit, making sure it's all ok to play then use InstantCopy to do the compression bit as I think IC has problems stripping the DVD

Everything has worked great so far and it also seems to give a better size result at the end as using IC to strip audio & extras seems to give mixed size results

I know it's extra work but at least you get a working DVD at the end of it without the worry of will it work or not if I use IC

hope this helps anyone who does use delete playback button

[valnar]

Or simply use Delete playback *after* it runs through IC.

-Robert

[nyplayer]

MisterX

Thanks for the info but..... The crashing of InstantCopy is movie related. These movies seems everyone is having trouble with them.

[ilovecatbus]

The Big Blue.....
Ya..I tried to take out the foreign audio track and sub....
crashed twice......
I will try if I keep them all, see what will happen....:)

[madmandiaz]

Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back - 2nd disc R1

[MackemX]

Originally posted by valnar
Or simply use Delete playback *after* it runs through IC.

-Robert

I agree valnar is right if the file is really small, just remove it after, obviously you have to extract the PDI file before burning to do this(also recommended)

but for the DVD's that insist on playing a whole load of rubbish before getting to the main menu, these extra few MB's I would rather remove 1st and let IC have more space to work with

[ThaMan]

That's the whole point it gives no ERROR msg.. it just close when half the movie is encoded

[madmandiaz]

@TheMan

That is exactly what is going on in my situation. I wonder if it is the disc structure itself or just some retarded bug.

[valnar]

I'm trying to do Rocky Horror now too. Did you ever find a way to make it work with IC?

-Robert

[raiderz]

Monty Python and the Holy Grail R2 Disc 1

crashes when the main film is encoding at 99% and overall at 97%, "Multicopy.exe has experienced and error and will be shut down"

[LevelB]

Just looking over the posts, I notice (althoough not all info is posted) that the movies all seem to be 2nd disc, PAL, or NOT R1.

Maybe there is a trend, who knows?

[X5-452]

Band Of Brothers R4 Disc 6.

[Zimmy]

Criterion's Red Beard
It is a 3 hour movie and InstantCopy crashes about 1/2 way through.
I tried stripping out the extras first and it still craps out.
And this is after ripping the entire disc with DVDDecryptor.


Zimmy

[EjectButton]

simpsons s2 d4

tried twice, IC closed itself with no message around 90% both times, s2 d3 worked fine for some reason

[nyplayer]

Divide by 0 error

Fat Greek Wedding
Legally Blonde

[A7mag3ddon]

The Sweetest Thing - Pal

stops about 47% in and reports " Multicopy.exe Caused a blah blah blah blah " click ok and IC7 shuts down.

Tried 2 rips both using dvd decrypter if full file mode , nothing altered and tried on 2 pc's same % and same error.

[da_SPiN]

I have problems with DRACULA (by WES CRAVEN)... stops working... no failure message or anything like this...

SPiN

[MackemX]

If IC crashes during processing but then returns to the Device Selection window, will it let you click on the Details button and if so does it say anything in the LOG tab?. I get this below when I cancel manually

just asking, nothing else, to see if it keeps a record while it is running

If I close the program using Task manager, when I restart it, it states' an abnormal program termination has left temporary files' and ask if I want to delete them

Its referring to the PDI files but could it also be the Log file?

I click no then goto Details and there is no Log Tab option!, but this is a forced shutdown of IC so I'm wondering if the Log is still there during a 'normal' crash or can you access it before opening IC and if it is does it say why it stopped?

Versions:
Operating System: Windows 2000 5.01 (Build 2600: )
InstantCopy: 7.0.0.091 (05/02/2003 15:15:54)
CD-R Drivers: 6.4.3.089 (30/01/2003 17:28:04)
ISO/UDF Creator: 1.0.2.033 (12/12/2002 14:46:00)
ASAPI Interface: 5.0.0.002 (27/04/2000 12:31:18)

Source Device:

Settings:
Write method: Automatic (Recommended)
Closing method: Automatic (Recommended)
Write speed: Automatic (Recommended)
[ ] Write to hard disk first
[ ] Verify destination media after write
[ ] Fixed Gaps between tracks
[X] Repair Subchannel data

Transfer Mode: Automatic (Recommended)
Error Handling: Stop copying on read error
[ ] Use error seek
Error seek range: 0
[X] Automatically create processing items

Reading Video Title Sets...
Loaded analyze data for disc: 6F0887A19C29B5A2C6C8DA0C7F15A0D8-0002F800
Nr Position Length Pre Post Se Sector Mode
---------------------------------------------
01 0 2,464,153 150 150 1 Mode 1 ISO
---------------------------------------------
1 Track(s), 2,464,453 sectors total data length
Copying contents to hard drive
Reading Video Data from source
Analyzing Main Menu
Analyzing Menu 1 of 4
Analyzing video title set 1 of 4
Analyzing Menu 2 of 4
Analyzing video title set 2 of 4
Analyzing Menu 3 of 4
Analyzing video title set 3 of 4
Analyzing Menu 4 of 4
Analyzing video title set 4 of 4
Video title set 1 quality: 0
Video title set 2 quality: 0
Video title set 3 quality: 0
Video title set 4 quality: 0
Reading Main Menu
Initializing...
Reading...
MULTIPLEX: Video: 110 Audio: 0 NavPackets: 6
Reading Menu 1 of 4
Initializing...
Reading...

and does anyone know exactly what the Processing tab is for?(is it just relating to the burning?)

or could it be for problem discs as when you click on NEW button it gives a list of Exclude, Mark Error, Patch, Skip Track

and if you click LOAD it shows Copy Control Information files are needed, whatever they are

cheers

[sidders]

@A7mag3ddon

The Sweetest Thing crashes for me too. I thought it was just me!!!
Same error.

[Dobbin44]

Add these to the list
Bridge On The River Kwai - Region 1
Robbie Williams - Where Egos Dare - Region 2/3/4/5/6
Spent 6 hours copying and got nothing, both crashing midway.
Will this bug be fixed in later versions?

[ZeroLimit]

one more movie Lord Of The Rings Fellowship Of The Ring if anyones had the same problem or know a fix all i get is a error with xp that program must shut down! anyone know why? Thanks

[carlinhosg]

The Legend Of 1900 - R1
Couldn't do it in either file mode or ISO mode.

Anyone else?

[sickboy]

Monty Python and the Holy Grail Special Edition NTSC

Crashes at 99% everytime no matter how many times I re-rip and transcode.

[atreides93]

It crashes 47% of the way through transcoding Stargate SG1 volume 1 disc 1

what a drag....i'm going to try using dvd2one on it now

[nyplayer]

ET NTSC Disc2 Crashes. Right away

[schlaufer]

Originally posted by ThaMan
SpiderMan Region 2 crashed

Hi,

I copied both disks of Spidey RC2. No real problems at all. The only oddity was, that IC bawks, if you try to reduce the quality of title 25 (or was it 26? one of the music titles) below 45%.

I copied everything of disk1 except the trailers (deselected in IC) and everything on disk2 except the french menus (ripped before IC with IfoEdit).

Cheers,
schlaufer

[ZeroLimit]

ok guys I posted that Lord Of The Rings Fellowship Of The Ring crashed instant copy well I keep playing with it so i notice the menu was 50% so i put it at 100% and it starts encoding and boom!!! it works. So if you have proglems with any movie just try to put the menu at 100% see if it helps u helped me wont hurt to try Good Luck!

[jakie]

teenage mutant ninja turtles 3 crashes at 48 percent.

this sucks

[MackemX]

Originally posted by jakie
teenage mutant ninja turtles 3 crashes at 48 percent.

this sucks
yeah you are right

the cartoon was great
the first movie was ok
the 2nd naff
but the 3rd, the magic was gone :D

[ravenone_2000]

Rush Hour2 R1 Crashes at about 78%
The Great Mouse Detective R1

Both ripped w/ Decrypter in ISO (Complete DVD)
I then mount each(depending on which I am IC'ing) via DAEMON tools. Tested to make sure the ISO played and menus worked fine.

Mouse Detective: I tried a complete 1:1 copy since it was small enough, using the auto % compress. I removed all languages and subs except English.

RH2: I did remove the last 2 groups (6 & 7 I think) Bumped the main movie % compress to ~80%. Removed all sound trackes except Dolby5.1 and only kept english language and subs.

I'll try it again and make note of all settings.

[MackemX]

Originally posted by ravenone_2000
Rush Hour2 R1 Crashes at about 78%
The Great Mouse Detective R1
little more info would be helpful

Originally posted by MisterX
for the people above with problems
are you all ripping the COMPLETE DVD using DVDDecypter in File mode or Smartripper in the same mode?
are you leaving the ripped files and then opening Instantcopy?
are you doing a complete 1:1 using InstantCopy

If the answer is yes to all 3 questions then sorry I cannot offer advice aprt from checking the actual settings in your ripping program are correct

If you think they are then post your settings and maybe I or someone else can help

what you ripped with and what settings
did u mod files before using IC
what you have stripped using IC
what % settings on movie etc
fault it showed or how it crashed & when
any other info you can think of

[ravenone_2000]

Sorry, I edited my post w/ more details.

[JonRead]

Chocky (a UK tv series on DVD). Crashed half way through. No point in going in to too much detail as NO one will ever try to copy this DVD except for me, haha, as no one has heard of it, but just thought I would add another one to the list.

[ravenone_2000]

MisterX,

Here my setup details on this current trial of Rush Hour 2, R1. I'll post when completed if it worked or crashed. Sorry for the length :eek: , but I wanted to capture full details of the config.

7.0.0.91 w/ Reg Hack
Read Tab:
Data Read Speed: Auto
Audio Read Speed: Auto
Software Retries: 4
Checked - Hardware Retries 4
NO Check - Fixed Gaps
NO Check - Repair Subchannel

DVD tab:
Copy method: Customized Resize
Preferred Destination: Auto
CD Aspect Ratio: Auto
Advanced settings:
Remove DVD-Rom content
NO-CHECK on use online transcodign DB
Audio Streams: All but English checked
Sub titles: All but English checked
User Prohibitions: All UNchecked except(Forward Scan,Backward Scan,Menu: Title,Menu: Root,Navigation Buttons)

General tab:
Transfer mode: Auto
Error Hanlding: Stop Copying on read error
Options:
Disable Screensaver
After simulation: Start writing after confirmation
Programming interface type: ASAPI
Wriet Chace optimized for 7,650 KB
Temp Directory: C:\Temp\Video_Scratch

Processing tab: Nothing in it.

In customize disc:
Video Tracks all selected except where noted below
Audio_TS selected
No "common" or "win" items selected
Menu at 59.55%
Title 1&2 (Video Title set 1, main movie): 79.26% size, Only AC3 5.1 Audio selected, Enlgish subs selected
Title 3-5 (Video Title set 2), 48.15%
Title 6-36 (Video Title set 3), 48.15%
Title 37-46 (Video Title set 4), 48.15%
Title 47-75 (Video Title set 5), 48.15%
Title 76 (video Title set 5-dont know why it doesnt change with the rest of the set), 48.15%
Title 77 (video Title set 5-this one does change when I change 47-75 titles), 48.15%
Title 78 (video title set 6), 100% can't change since its only 5.57MB
Title 79-80 (video title set 7), UNCHECKED
title 81 (video Title set 8), Unchecked

Total Data Size: 4.39 GB (have to do F5 trick to continue)

[MackemX]

Originally posted by ravenone_2000
only 5.57MB
Title 79-80 (video title set 7), UNCHECKED
title 81 (video Title set 8), Unchecked

Total Data Size: 4.39 GB (have to do F5 trick to continue)
arggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!

do not use IC to remove Titles, are people not listening? :D

especially the last few ones as these contain the logos etc and if they are missing the DVD goes t''s up!

what do they contain?

[ravenone_2000]

Titles 79-80 Are the LOTR trailer preview
Title 81 is an Indee Film about something in New York.

One last question, if I use IfoEdit to remove the titles while the files are all in VOB type files, how do I get them back to ISO?

[MackemX]

which version of DVD Decrypter are you using, I use 3.1.4.0@ default and rip in file mode selecting all files

then I would goto the ifo/VOB which has the trailer in and delete only the VOB ID (VOB extras, not delete playback) that refers to the trailer, nothing else. If it has 5 vob ID's but only one reference to the VOB ID for trailer delete just the one VOB ID, not all 5

then use PowerDVD to check all is ok when it get's to the bit you have removed

or just take that chance IC will do it for you :)

can I ask how many VOB ID's the trailer VOB has, and how many trailers there are in the VOB?

[Antonio S.]

@MisterX:arggggggghhhhhhhhhhh! do not use IC to remove Titles, are people not listening? especially the last few ones as these contain the logos etc and if they are missing the DVD goes t''s up!
what do they contain?
I totally agree!!!

This "registry hack" thing DOESN'T WORK CORRECTLY!!! If this feature works correctly, it will be available when you install the program for the first time. Why would Pinnacle like to hide such option?
PEOPLE THINK!!!

Antonio S.

[ravenone_2000]

Originally posted by MisterX
which version of DVD Decrypter are you using, I use 3.1.4.0@ default and rip in file mode selecting all files

then I would goto the ifo/VOB which has the trailer in and delete only the VOB ID (VOB extras, not delete playback) that refers to the trailer, nothing else. If it has 5 vob ID's but only one reference to the VOB ID for trailer delete just the one VOB ID, not all 5

then use PowerDVD to check all is ok when it get's to the bit you have removed

or just take that chance IC will do it for you :)

can I ask how many VOB ID's the trailer VOB has, and how many trailers there are in the VOB?

I'm using 3.1.4.0 also, with the defaults(except I use Brute Force/CSS selection)

I'll have to wait to check the ID's since IC is running on the ISO file right now and I don't want to do another RIP to possibly interrupt IC. Hopefully IC will work this time :)

BTW, per your previous post, there is not an ability to go into IC and look at the log like you were getting during a manual cancel.

p.s. Thanks for all the help in trying to trouble shoot this and everyone else problems w/ IC.

[MackemX]

Originally posted by Antonio S.
@MisterX:
I totally agree!!!

This "registry hack" thing DOESN'T WORK CORRECTLY!!! If this feature works correctly, it will be available when you install the program for the first time. Why would Pinnacle like to hide such option?
PEOPLE THINK!!!

Antonio S.
hooray, someone agrees

maybe they did initailly plan on having it included but found it to be too buggy, so removed the feature but still released it until they sort out the problem :confused:

they advertise 1:1 backups not 0.99999:1 so unchecking even one Title containing a logo may have consequences depending on the contents of that VOB

Some VOB's contain more than one VOB ID, yet only seem to have one video scene, uncheck it in IC and it removes all VOB ID's and sometimes confuses the DVD player when it looks for missing VOB ID's

I cannot stress this enough

[MackemX]

Originally posted by ravenone_2000
I'm using 3.1.4.0 also, with the defaults(except I use Brute Force/CSS selection)
there's a difference straight away, I do not use Force CSS
I will post pics of my settings in DVD Decrpyter

thats why I ask people to post as much info as poss :)

[MackemX]

these are my DVD decrypter settings using XP

SETTINGS (http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/dvdd.htm)

selecting all files in file mode has worked just fine for me since I started using this version

[ravenone_2000]

Originally posted by MisterX
there's a difference straight away, I do not use Force CSS
I will post pics of my settings in DVD Decrpyter

thats why I ask people to post as much info as poss :)


If you talking about the "Force CSS present" option, then no I don't have it checked. I have just the "Brute Force -> I/O Key Exchange" checked under the CSS Cracking Method.

p.s. The movie is at 67% now and finished the main movie without a crash. So, if the crash happens again, it is probably as you mention, a problem with removing the last two Title Sets.

[MackemX]

Originally posted by ravenone_2000
If you talking about the "Force CSS present" option, then no I don't have it checked. I have just the "Brute Force -> I/O Key Exchange" checked under the CSS Cracking Method.

p.s. The movie is at 67% now and finished the main movie without a crash. So, if the crash happens again, it is probably as you mention, a problem with removing the last two Title Sets.
I have the "I/O Key Exchange -> Brute Force " checked under the CSS Cracking Method

HERE (http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/regedit/btfvobedit/dvdd/dvd6.gif)