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Bear263
13th February 2003, 16:36
First thank you for the great guides. It is because of them that I don't post much.

I would like your advice and or opinion on a matter with a DVD I am backing up. The movie is 7.96 gig. This movie has 10 vts sets. The extras (which are good) take up 3.1 gig by themselves. I've re-encoding the extras to just about where quality is lost and got them down to 1.9 gig. Leaving 2.4 gig for movie. Audio for movie is 400 meg. Which leaves roughly 2 gig for movie. (2:08 hours) The thing is the movie and audio will fit on a dvd+r without re-encoding.

So my question is:

Under this circumstance,

1) Would you be more inclined to do just movie (to save quality)
2) Split the dvd into 2 (movie on one disk, extras on another)
or
3) Encode so it all fits on one dvd+r?

Hope I explained it well.

Thanks
Bear

TRILIGHT
16th February 2003, 22:42
Originally posted by Bear263
First thank you for the great guides. It is because of them that I don't post much.....
1) Would you be more inclined to do just movie (to save quality)
2) Split the dvd into 2 (movie on one disk, extras on another)
or
3) Encode so it all fits on one dvd+r?

You're welcome! Thanks for the compliment! It's for reasons like this I feel making the guides are worth my time. Sometimes I start to wonder if I should even bother. ;) As for your questions...

1) I never do just the movie on a disc. I always do full backups (replacing small items here and there should I not want them)

2) I never split things across 2 discs. I find it unreliable and annoying. The only time I condone putting things on two discs is when the original was two discs anyway! (ie. Minority Report with the movie on one disc and the extras on a second disc.) In this case, I backup one disc to one side of a 2-sided blank and the second disc to the other side of the 2-sided blank. This way I STILL only have one disc to keep up with! ;)

3) For the reasons 1 and 2 I just stated... Yes, I do #3. ;)

waldok
17th February 2003, 12:58
Uber Trilight, please allow me to differ..with all due respect :D

I would advice in this very case splitting over 2 discs, movie on one disc, Extras on the other. This is by no mean "butchering" the original, since all the interactivity and creative efforts put by the authors in menus are preserved. I tried both (single DVDR and 2 DVDRs) and fitting a 2 hours movie in 2Gigs won't produce satisfactory quality at DVD resolution. (might work ok for some "very" compressible movies though).

So I would say, you definitely don't wan't to "butcher" the original structure, but you also don't want to have VHS-like quality when watching the movie. Splitting to two discs (Movie + extras) seems a good compromise to me.

Bu that's my own idea...so...for what its' worth...

Waldok:cool:

Bear263
17th February 2003, 16:59
Thanks for the replies. I ended up using instantcopy and it worked quite well.

Bear

tlian
17th February 2003, 18:06
@TRILIGHT

Thanks for your "Das UberGuide" andInsomnia Notes.

One question, if I want to remove an extra VTS using your Video Fill Files, do I need to create duplicate the number of PGC and celss, or
creating a Dummy VTS with one PGC, one VOBID and one cell is good enough?

Thanks