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zwieber
13th February 2003, 12:16
@jdobbs,

First of all, thanks for the effort you have put in to the Makeiteasy tool.

However, it doesn't really make sense that the extra's keep the high bitrate, higher then the movie itself ... it should be the other way round, or at least the same.

Now, I remember you wrote this :
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I have an idea for stretching the capability of this program. I could actually pull all the CELLs from all the VOB sets and put them all together as if they were one. You could then run DVD2one, and MakeItEasy could then rewrite them to the proper VTS and update the IFOs. That way padding wouldn't really be necessary.

The problem is that I don't want to waste a lot of time creating an incredibly elegant solution for something that will be fixed in two weeks. Wish I knew when the next version of DVD2one was going to be released and what capabilities it will have.
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Since we now know that Erwin is putting his efforts toword protecting the software registration code rather then the 1:1 feature, do you think you could have another look at this ?
They don't want to give out any release dates, but my estimate would be that it will take at least another month or two before they release anything that will do the menus.

I don't understand why they are wasting time with the registration crack protection. It will be cracked the day after it's released, or because they have now put up a challenge for the crackers maybe even the same day. Didn't they learn anything from CloneCD. There's no registration key algorithm more powerfull then the one Olli wrote, and that now has a keygen as well ... finally he gave up and focussed on improving the software instead.
People that don't want to pay for this will use a crack or a shared serial ... there's nothing they can do about that... no matter how good a programmer Erwin is ...

Anyway, I'm deviating from the subject matter, I would appreciate it if you would have a second look at that option you were talking about, and I'm sure a LOT of other people would appreciate it too.

goober22
13th February 2003, 14:03
I would be interested in seeing this happen too. There appears to be a problem with movies having VOBIDs higher than 70 as well.

Keep up the GREAT work jdobbs!

jdobbs
13th February 2003, 14:53
There's a three day weekend coming up (here in America) -- I'll see what I can do.

zwieber
13th February 2003, 19:48
As Homer Simpson would say : "Woehoe !"

Am I correct in thinking this approach would make this work on any DVD, regardless of multi-angle, episodes etc.

Just take every single VOB, combine them, fool DVD2One in thinking it's a single movie, split it again and burn it.

Cheers m8 !

mike4692
13th February 2003, 20:28
go baby ,go baby ,go baby , go


keep up the good work mate :D

jdobbs
13th February 2003, 23:50
The concept hasn't been proven as yet. There is an obvious consideration with sound/captions as they may not match between VTSs... but since it is very likely that DVD2one ignores those tracks it will probably work.

The problem with VOBIDs higher than 70 is definite. If we did the disc this way, though I may not need to pad.

zwieber
14th February 2003, 00:40
DVD2One doesn't touch the sound or captions ... so that shouldn't be a problem.

Go for it !:D

zwieber
24th February 2003, 09:48
@jdobbs,

Did you look into this ? Or did you just gave up because IC was released ?

jdobbs
24th February 2003, 13:35
No I still plan to do it. I've written some of the code already. Unfortunately I'll be out of town for a few days so it will have to wait till I return.

zwieber
24th February 2003, 14:38
Thanks, I look forward to testing it !

vljenewein
25th February 2003, 05:56
Originally posted by jdobbs
No I still plan to do it. I've written some of the code already. Unfortunately I'll be out of town for a few days so it will have to wait till I return.

Careful... Hunk4004 will have claimed to have written the code to this and 14 other pieces in your absence.. I understand she also wrote the beginnings of war and peace, but had to go to work and someone stole her idea before she got back to finish it..

(obviously this may be stretching it just a bit :D )

Your efforts and software achievements are to be commended on here and on CD freaks. I'm still writing menus with my pencil! ROFLMAO !

Cheers!

EpyxZ
25th February 2003, 10:43
Originally posted by jdobbs
There's a three day weekend coming up (here in America) -- I'll see what I can do.

a 3 day weekend? u wouldnt happen to be in alaska would u? er army that is :P :)

jdobbs
27th February 2003, 01:37
Nope, Mid-Atlantic...

vljenewein
27th February 2003, 05:23
jdobbs: You have suggested in an earlier thread some information about being able to use menus as "add ins" to the movie and using DVD2ONE. Intereting reading. With your knowledge of what you can and cannot do to a set of .VOB files, I was wondering about stitching a movie together that spans to 2 DVDs. Pearl Harbor starts on Disc 1 and ends the movie on Disc 2. Is there a way to rip the main movie, use DVD2ONE, make it smaller, and also be able to rip the extra part from disc2 ... the ending of the movie, and put it all on 1 DVD. A sacrifice of Menus, and things for video quality would be my first choice.

Vern
jenefarm@direcway.com

jdobbs
27th February 2003, 16:51
@vljenewein

You'd have to give up menus etc... because the IFO structures would be a nightmare to combine. You could recreate a standard DVD2one disc, though, if you consider and adjust for a couple of limits.

The first limit is in the VOB files. You can make a set only of 9 (VTS_XX_1.VOB thru VTS_XX_9.VOB) and they are normally limited to ~1GB each. I have tested, though, and you can increase the size of the files when using DVD2one and possibly fit them all (as long as you have a file system like NTFS that will support larger files).

Second is the labling within the VOB files. It is very likely that the VOBs from the second disc will have VOB IDs and CELL IDs that are duplicates. You'd have to scan the entire set and change those.

jdobbs
27th February 2003, 18:50
Actually I think my answer may not have matched the question. I was looking at it from a 2 DVD movie standpoint (like the 2 DVD version of Fiddler on the Roof). You're speaking of adding the extras from one DVD to the movie on another. That would be hard to do.

vljenewein
27th February 2003, 19:09
Originally posted by jdobbs
Actually I think my answer may not have matched the question. I was looking at it from a 2 DVD movie standpoint (like the 2 DVD version of Fiddler on the Roof). You're speaking of adding the extras from one DVD to the movie on another. That would be hard to do.

Well, I was actually talking about combining the vobs from disc1 and the VOBs from dis2 into one directory and letting DVD2ONE work. I have managed to get 2 disc. Disc1 is from the origianl DVD ripped and transcoded to smaller files and burned to single disc. Quality is anything but good. Disc 2 was ripped fully, then DVD2one and then burned. Qualityis superb, and should be, because I think there is very little difference in the file size, just stipped out extra languages and such and menus. Disc 2 is only about 1/2 used.

What would now make more sense, since I've seen the idiotic way they put the movie onto 2 disc.. (80% disc 1 plus extras 20% disc 2 plus more extras.) They could have made it all on disc1 and put ALL the extra stuff on disc2..

Can the movie be split in 2 close enough to work. In other words, takes some of the *.VOB files from the Disc1 rip and move them over into the Disc2 rip and take a little pressure off DVD2ONE for making smaller. Sort of share the load equally betweeen the 2 discs.??

The main movie files on disc1 ripped are VTS_07_0.VOB through VTS_07_8.VOB The main movie files on disc2 ripped are VTS_08_1.VOB through VTS_08_4.VOB Interesting that the second movie does not have a VTS_08_0.VOB to start with.

Food for thought.. it gave me a bit of constipation.. LOL