Is there a DShow filter for Windows Media 9 Video available?

[Chibi Jasmin]

I just stumbled upon a short downloaded clip encoded with Windows Media 9 Video...I saw it decodes using wmvdmod.dll. Then I saw, I have no DShow Filter for Windows Media 9...I just installed Windows Media Player 9 some time ago...

Is there something like wmvds32.ax or wmv8ds32.ax for Windows Media 9?

[bond]

m$ will release one this month!

[gabest]

On my system it plays with "WMVideo/Audio Decoder DMO" from wmvdmod.dll. This is a DMO, but can be considered a dshow filter since the DMO filter wraps it just like the "AVI Decompressor" filter wraps VfW codecs.

[Chibi Jasmin]

Yeah, I know, but it has no quality slider :) The same story as always with .ax vs dmod.dll...we used to priority patch the .ax or disable the .dlls to make sure the .ax gets used.. :D

So they will release a .ax?

[zulu]

Originally posted by bond
m$ will release one this month!

are you sure you don't mistake this for the announced vfw codec? :)

[bond]

sorry :D

[Chibi Jasmin]

Okay, so no .ax?

[zulu]

Originally posted by Chibi Jasmin
Okay, so no .ax?
not that i remember.
maybe armir can jump in here?

[Chibi Jasmin]

Now this WM9 AVI/VFW stuff is being talked about? Any news on my original question? Any .ax filter instead of the dmo one available now? I thought there was some talk about DShow filter (is that the .ax?) vs dmo...!? I post this here, because I didn't wanna jump with this into the wm9 in avi thread...

[ChristianHJW]

Why do we need the quality slider that badly ? If its about postprocessing, couldnt we use FFDshow for that ? Any good player should be capable of using FFDShow in a semi-automatic graph generation, so we can use its postprocessing on the raw video data output by the DMO wrapper ?

[Chibi Jasmin]

Originally posted by ChristianHJW
Why do we need the quality slider that badly ? If its about postprocessing, couldnt we use FFDshow for that ? Any good player should be capable of using FFDShow in a semi-automatic graph generation, so we can use its postprocessing on the raw video data output by the DMO wrapper ?

Well, the question is not about, if we need it, I was just used to having all msvideo formats as .ax filters...I am not too sure about the difference between dmo and .ax...is the quality slider (the postprocessing) the only one?

Even better would be to integrate wmv9 into ffdshow :-)

[ChristianHJW]

Originally posted by Chibi Jasmin Even better would be to integrate wmv9 into ffdshow :-)

If i understand the explanations from Toff and BlackSun correctly, the DMO WMV9 decoder ( DMO = Direct Media Object IIRC, a stripped down DShow filter ) is used by a wrapper filter on DirectShow, coming with the standard Windows distribution.

I am not sure, but it maybe could be feasible that Milan modifies FFDshow such that it 'cares' about DMO's, or specifically the WMV9 one, such that postprocessing was possible for them ... what i dont know is, if this would be any advantage to the way DShow is handling WMV9 playback currently ?

[Chibi Jasmin]

Originally posted by ChristianHJW
If i understand the explanations from Toff and BlackSun correctly, the DMO WMV9 decoder ( DMO = Direct Media Object IIRC, a stripped down DShow filter ) is used by a wrapper filter on DirectShow, coming with the standard Windows distribution.

I am not sure, but it maybe could be feasible that Milan modifies FFDshow such that it 'cares' about DMO's, or specifically the WMV9 one, such that postprocessing was possible for them ... what i dont know is, if this would be any advantage to the way DShow is handling WMV9 playback currently ?

You would have postprocessing, that's what I thought of...

[Atamido]

I'm not sure that postprocessing works like that in WM9. It may just filter the outputted image, but it may also blur by using different motion vectors used to render the video. I'm not sure the results would be the same.