Real Time CCE encoding ?

[Owen]

Has anyone got a idea how to use CCE as a real time capture codec.
I have the power to do it (3Gig P4).
I currently use Xvid for full res PAL capture at fixed quant. of 2.
CCE seems to give better quality at high bitrates.
Ideas anyone ??

Regards,
Owen

[auenf]

i suppose theoretically a capture program could me made that captured the frames and talked to the CCE Premiere plugin. would you like to code it ;)

Enf...

[BlueCup]

Originally posted by auenf
...program could me made that captured the frames and talked to the CCE Premiere plugin...

Whoa. Funny how one letter off can throw the sentence out the window.

@Owen

Why not just buy a MPG capture card?

[Owen]

Humm..
Not the responce I was hopping for.
I have all this CPU power going to wast.
As for Mpeg card, why buy obsolete hardware when it can be done in software.
Are there any other good Mpeg2 codecs worth a try?

Regards,

Owen

[BlueCup]

Then capture to AVI then encode into MPG with your computer.

Any other good MPG2 codecs? Do you mean encoders?

[rolonzos2]

According to CCE's web site, CCE Pro is capable of real time encoding.

http://www.cinemacraft.com/eng/home.html

[slk001]

What do you mean by "real time"? Do you mean encoding at 1.000X? CCE easily does this. However, I believe that you want something to give you an output as rapidly as data is input. If so, then get yourself a hardware encoder (what makes you think that these are obsolete?).

But then, CCE really shines with VBR encoding. It gives you a high quality output with a minimum of used storage space. To do this effectively, it requires knowledge of both past and future events, thus requiring multiple passes through your video.

I have a $600 MPEG2 capture card that gives superb output results. However, this is only at CBR encoding - not very space efficient. I then take the output from this card and run it through a 3 pass CCE VBR encode (at 1X, mind you) that results in both superb output and efficient storage space usage (RE: more stuff on my DVD-R). This means that at 1X, a two hour video will encode completely in 8 hours (one pass for the .VAF file, and three passes at VBR).

[symonjfox]

He was sayng if is it a way to capture a video from TV BOARD in MPEG 2 using CCE without a temporal AVI FILE.

I can encode near-realtime from AVI to MPEG 2 with my Athlon XP, he has a P4 3Ghz ... why to spend other money for a useless MPEG2 card?

I have already tried, but there isn't a program that allows me frameserve the video I'm capturing to CCE or other programs.

But then, CCE really shines with VBR encoding. It gives you a high quality output with a minimum of used storage space. To do this effectively, it requires knowledge of both past and future events, thus requiring multiple passes through your video.


It's not true. U can use the 1 pass VBR and perform just one pass (if performed faster-than-realtime, it will take few time). Just set a minimum and maximum bitrate and put a quantizer. The quality is good enough if a good quantizer is set, or just put a good minmum bitrate, so you will get a better-than-CBR file.

[Owen]

Thanks everyone for the input.

symonjfox, you know what I am after :D
Frame serving I live video stream to CCE seems like the only way.
I have not seen any way of doing that. :(

As for the mpg card, I think CCE is better quality that most hardware solutions.

I have encoded video from my high quality DV camera (best source I have) to mpeg2 in both one pass VBR and three pass VBR at 6000kbs average and I cant tell any differance.
Three pass may be better at lower bit rates.
But then Xvid is very good at low bit rates as well.

I was hopping to improve on Xvid one pass quality at bit rates around 4000-6000kbs.

Thanks,
Owen

[symonjfox]

Another trick is to encode in CCE in 1 pass VBR enabling the writing of the VAF file.

If the result isn't enough for you, just go to CCE, perform a MULTIPASS VBR using the same filenames, it will perform just the other passes (since the vaf file is already done).