Problem after muxing audio/video (bbMPEG bug?)

[girotour]

Hi all,
with some SVCD discs created with DVD2SVCD I have a problem with video stream. During playback sometimes the video stream freezes for a while (half a second) and then the movie goes on without any problem.
I took a look to the mpv file created by DVD2SVCD, but I didn't notice any problem (no frozen images).
The bitrate should be good. The SVCD has just one audio track (192 kbps) and Max./Min./Max. avg have been set to 2556/0/2436 so the total bitrate should be 2556+192 = 2748 kbps.
The problem appears if I play the SVCD with a standalone player or with PowerDVD.

Ideas?

Thx.

[hoozdapimp]

wrong forum. please post all problems in the basic section.
*thread moved*

did you play the mpg file and see if that had the same problem?
please post your logfile!

[girotour]

Sorry for the mistake (I didn't think this was a beginner question).
Yes, I played the mpeg file and it has the problems.
Here's the log.

WNASPI32.DLL 4.71.2.0
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- 02/02/2003 01:23:03
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.1 build 2
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 02/02/2003 01:23:07
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Source\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\_Rip\Movie\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob,C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\_Rip\Movie\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\_Rip\Movie\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob,C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\_Rip\Movie\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob,C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\_Rip\Movie\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob,C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\_Rip\Movie\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 02/02/2003 01:27:12
- Free on drive C: 51437.85 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x81
Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 02/02/2003 01:33:45
- Free on drive C: 51080.00 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Audio\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Audio\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 02/02/2003 02:09:47
- Free on drive C: 50926.09 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 02/02/2003 02:09:58
- Free on drive C: 50925.80 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1662296776
AudioSectors: 163277268
VideoPAPO: 23220612
ScanOffsetBytes: 201013
SeqAligningBytes: 12775506
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 1462822369.20
Seconds: 6712.44
CalcMPEGStream: 1462822369.20
Frames: 167511
CDSize: 798.00
Number of CDs: 2
Cut point 793.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 167511
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 3
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 0
Max. bitrate: 2556
Avg. Bitrate: 1743
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Source\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BilinearResize(480,432)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 0.740
Video Encoding finished.

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- 02/02/2003 12:23:40
- Free on drive C: 49492.14 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 02/02/2003 12:23:43
- Free on drive C: 49492.13 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Video\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 02/02/2003 12:23:48
- Free on drive C: 49492.57 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 02/02/2003 12:23:51
- Free on drive C: 49492.57 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 0
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 0 seconds
Cut point: 793 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Muxed\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Muxed\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3174 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 3174
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 0 seconds
Cut point: 793 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Muxed\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 02/02/2003 12:35:32
- Free on drive C: 47908.52 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Muxed\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3179.285 seconds C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Muxed\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Muxed\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3526.243 seconds C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Muxed\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 02/02/2003 12:36:52
- Free on drive C: 47909.02 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 6

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\VCDXBU~1.XML"
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- 02/02/2003 12:39:53
- Free on drive C: 47897.37 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 11

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\VCDXBU~2.XML"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 02/02/2003 12:42:57
- Free on drive C: 47886.44 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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Thx for your help.

[markrb]

What did you rip the DVD with?
I sure hope you used one of the two included rippers since it's stated everywhere on this forum that only these two are supported.
There is a reason for this.

Mark

[girotour]

I use DVD Decrypter (the best IMHO), but I really don't think it's a ripping problem. There are no problems with audio (mp2) and video (mpv) tracks before muxing them together.
Anyway, just to test everything, I tried to use DVD2SVCD internal ripping and the problem persists.

Thx for your help.

[hoozdapimp]

how are you viewing your mpv file?
please post your updated log file too

[markrb]

DVD Decrypter is great for most things, but causes serious issues with DVD2SVCD. Do not use it with this program.

I use DVD Decrypter for other things as well and I find it to be a great program, but just not with DVD2SVCD.

Try using recover from Muxing and cutting and this time maximize BBmpeg. Watch to see if there are any errors. A bad mux can cause this sort of problem.

Mark

[girotour]

hoozdapimp: I'm viewing my mpv file using RealOne Player and it has no frozen images.

markrb: there are no errors in bbMPEG console, but I noticed something strange (for me). When bbMPEG analyzes video stream it reports the following values:

Bit rate: 2556000 bits/sec (Ok)
Computed avg rate: 1750000 bits/sec (Ok)
Computed max rate: 2988400 bits/sec

In my understanding max rate should be 2556000 bits/sec (this is the value I set in DVD2SVCD). Why it's so high?

I also attach the log I obtained using DVD2SVCD internal ripping. Unfortunately, the result is the same as it was when I used DVD Decrypter.
Here it is.

WNASPI32.DLL 4.71.2.0
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- 04/02/2003 08:19:43
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.1 build 2
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 04/02/2003 08:19:47
- Free on drive C: 51416.18 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob

Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 7711

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- 04/02/2003 08:33:21
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Source\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Source\VTS_01_1.vob,C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Source\VTS_01_2.vob,C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Source\VTS_01_3.vob,C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Source\VTS_01_4.vob,C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Source\VTS_01_5.vob,C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Source\VTS_01_6.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 04/02/2003 08:37:35
- Free on drive C: 45292.34 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x81
Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 04/02/2003 08:44:56
- Free on drive C: 44934.49 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Audio\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Audio\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 04/02/2003 09:22:00
- Free on drive C: 44782.15 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 04/02/2003 09:22:10
- Free on drive C: 44780.86 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1662296776
AudioSectors: 163277268
VideoPAPO: 23220612
ScanOffsetBytes: 201013
SeqAligningBytes: 12775506
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 1462822369.20
Seconds: 6712.44
CalcMPEGStream: 1462822369.20
Frames: 167511
CDSize: 798.00
Number of CDs: 2
Cut point 793.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 167511
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 3
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 0
Max. bitrate: 2556
Avg. Bitrate: 1743
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Source\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BilinearResize(480,432)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 0.740
Video Encoding finished.

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- 04/02/2003 19:51:29
- Free on drive C: 43346.57 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 04/02/2003 19:51:33
- Free on drive C: 43346.57 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Video\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 04/02/2003 19:51:39
- Free on drive C: 43347.52 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 04/02/2003 19:51:42
- Free on drive C: 43347.02 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 0
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 0 seconds
Cut point: 793 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Muxed\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Muxed\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3174 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 3174
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 0 seconds
Cut point: 793 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Muxed\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 04/02/2003 20:06:31
- Free on drive C: 41763.12 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Muxed\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3179.285 seconds C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Muxed\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Muxed\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3526.243 seconds C:\Documents and Settings\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\Muxed\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 04/02/2003 20:07:51
- Free on drive C: 41763.11 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 6

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\VCDXBU~1.XML"
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- 04/02/2003 20:11:04
- Free on drive C: 41752.52 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 11

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "C:\DOCUME~1\nobody\Desktop\DVD2SVCD\VCDXBU~2.XML"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 04/02/2003 20:14:19
- Free on drive C: 41741.62 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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[furado]

I have the same problem when I used high bitrates.

I do not if it is for the same of you because
I only probe with my DVD player (Philips DVD 633)
and maybe my player don´t play well high bitrates.

To play fine, I can´t use bitrates > 2500.

[shutt1e]

try this:
in the misc tab select dvd2svcd level to advance
in the bbmpeg tab choose advanced options
set the timestamps to I frames
then remux your file or start a new conversion