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somebodeez
3rd February 2003, 00:25
Can this be done and if so, how?

jggimi
3rd February 2003, 00:45
Here's a thread I found by searching. This is an AviSynth filter:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12219&highlight=grey+filter

Install it, then press the "Edit" button on the Save & Encode pop-up window. Add in the .dll plug-in and the filter command. Test the results with the Preview button before saving and encoding.

If you don't care for that filter, I'm sure the search button can find you a few more.

And, I know you know this, but I thought I'd mention it....1a) Use the search function before posting. Chances are your question has already been answered.

somebodeez
3rd February 2003, 01:19
Thanks.
I did search but did not understand what I found so I thought I'd ask here, since I am using GKnot and this is the GKnot forum and the GKnot guide says nothing about how to access other filters (or if it does, I've missed that too)

I am still not very sure of what you're saying to do.
I downloaded from the link you've provided and will try to figure it out and not bother you again or ask some where else where they don't mind questions from people who don't understand the answers.

jggimi
3rd February 2003, 03:13
Sorry to have misunderstood. Your question wasn't very detailed, and I interpreted it as laziness.

You are already familiar with AviSynth scripts (.avs files). Install the software.

You do this by downloading the .zip file, and extract it into any folder. The software is the grey.dll file.

Edit your .avs file.

You can do this from within Gknot, as I described, or, you can use any text editor (Notepad, Wordpad, Microsoft Word).

Add two lines to the file. The first line points to your .dll file. You should point it to the folder you've extracted into. It can go anywhere in the script, ahead of the greyscale filter command. If you put the file into your Gknot folder, the line might look like:

LoadPlugin("C:\progra~1\gordia~1\grey.dll")

The second line, your greyscale filter command, looks like this:

grey

somebodeez
3rd February 2003, 04:51
Thank you.

"You are already familiar with AviSynth scripts (.avs files)."

Actually, I'm not. All I know about it is that it's something included with GKnot.
Danged if I'm going to ask anything about it here though.

manono
3rd February 2003, 05:21
Hi-

The Greyscale Filter is built into the AviSynth 2.07 included in GKnot 0.27. So all you have to do is to add the command to your script:

Greyscale()

Here's a list of the included filters (you're looking for the YUY2 ones):

http://www.avisynth.org/index.php?page=FiltersByCategory

somebodeez
3rd February 2003, 05:39
Originally posted by manono
Hi-

The Greyscale Filter is built into the AviSynth 2.07 included in GKnot 0.27. So all you have to do is to add the command to your script:

Greyscale()

Here's a list of the included filters (you're looking for the YUY2 ones):

http://www.avisynth.org/index.php?page=FiltersByCategory

Thank you
I've dabbled with Virtual Dub doing VHS captures (greyscale has done wonders with my black and white vhs videos) and have used the previous version of GKnot plus the current version and have, thanks to the guide, managed to turn out some decent divx from DVDs but always wondered how I could access the filters I've used Virtual Dub when I use GKnot.
I see now, that I'll have to study up on this scripting stuff.

jggimi
3rd February 2003, 13:22
"You are already familiar with AviSynth scripts (.avs files)."

Actually, I'm not....I've apologized for assuming you hadn't searched. I'll now apologize, again, for assuming you had familiarity with .avs files, since you and Manono had already discussed them in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42034

somebodeez
3rd February 2003, 15:10
Originally posted by jggimi
I've apologized for assuming you hadn't searched. I'll now apologize, again, for assuming you had familiarity with .avs files, since you and Manono had already discussed them in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42034

Thank you for your apologies.
I see a lot of interest in this thread (my own assumption is that either suddenly there is a large interest in using greyscale in GKnot or there is interest in watching our interaction with one another - I could be wrong though)judging by the count number so I guess I should clarify some things.

The first log I copy/pasted the thread you linked was from the Smart Ripper screen because I wanted to show what I was seeing.
The next log I copy/pasted in that thread was from my log file because I had done a search and saw others posting their log files when asking questions and saw that seemed to be the thing to do. I did not (and still do not) have any idea what all it meant except where it says "warning blah blah blah" is probably not a good thing.

Then I followed manon's instructions about opening the avs in virtual dub (which I had never done before) but I still do not know how to fiddle with it beyond that and did not know that thing was some how the key to using my virtual dub filters in GKnot. My problem at that time turned out to be just what manono said - a heat problem (which is fixed now thank you so much for your help, manono!) and at that time, I was not ready to go beyond that.

During the conduction of your searches on me, you should've seen that other then there and here, I've only posted one other time and in none of those 3 threads is there very much information about me and my expertise.

I've done my own search on you, BTW. I see where you seem to be quite knowledgable in this field and also quite knowledgable about policing the rules. Just a little knowledge and a tip that I have to offer - don't be so quick to assume.

manono
3rd February 2003, 17:20
Did you have to include that last paragraph? We spend our own time trying to help out, and we sometimes (often?) guess wrongly. Often there isn't enough information from the original poster to give an educated answer. And when we guess wrong, we feel badly enough about it on our own without the poster rubbing it in.

Although I've lucked out with you, somebodeez, if you've done a search on me also, you'll find plenty of threads where I've been wrong. I'm still licking my wounds from this one:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44066

somebodeez
3rd February 2003, 18:24
Originally posted by manono
Did you have to include that last paragraph? We spend our own time trying to help out, and we sometimes (often?) guess wrongly. Often there isn't enough information from the original poster to give an educated answer. And when we guess wrong, we feel badly enough about it on our own without the poster rubbing it in.

Although I've lucked out with you, somebodeez, if you've done a search on me also, you'll find plenty of threads where I've been wrong. I'm still licking my wounds from this one:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44066

I looked at your posts there and it does not appear to me that you've written anything judgemental to me. You were doing your best to be helpful.

And no, I do not normally spend my time conducting searches just to check other people out but evidently, it was done to me so .....
My searches are conducted to see if my situation has already been covered.

Imagine my surprise when I got a pop up saying I had a private message and that message was that I had gotten a warning and a "strike" accusing me of breaking a rule when I had not. All I did was ask a question, had just read the type of reply I had received and then lickity split - received that PM. This does not make a person feel very welcome here at all.
I was licking wounds too when I posted my previous reply.

I am a member of another forum where I do have some knowledge on the subject matter and I try to help when ever I can as do many others and we do not attack the person with questions in such a manner. We realize that in a place where there is a wealth of information (such as here), a person can get lost in it all and may not understand the answers they've found and need some hand holding even though there are FAQs and a search function and we do not automatically assume they are lazy when there is not much information about them.

Now, sitting back and putting on your shoes for a moment -

People in forums are faceless, you can not see their expressions.
There are hundreds of people who visit them and post every day and they are strangers - we don't know these people personally so we do not know, really, what kind of people they are and no matter where you go, there's always going to be some lazy ones, some newbies, some jerks and some really nice, great people, some in-between ect. So I can see now where searching people's posts may help to get a feel for what kind of person they are. In my case, there was not much to go on as I had only posted 3 times.

I have been apologised to twice now and received a PM that the "strike" has been removed and all is well.