DVDtoOgm - Ogg/Ogm DivX/Xvid Encoder

[DVD]

Hi,

At the moment I'm writing on a Encoder with helps you to create Ogm-Files with chapters, subs and Ogg-sound and which is similar to GordianKnot. In fact we can't say, that it is finished yet, and I'm working quite hard on it, but I'll be happy, if you could have a look at it and tell me, what you think about what is finished yet...

Remember that is isn't a final, just a alpha and there has to be fixed a lot of bugs and there will be added/completet some more.

So please don't be too angry if something isn't working. Just send me your settings and i will see. If you like my tool or find it useful, I'm looking forward to your Bug-reports and your ideas...

Have some fun...

Yours DVD

Download-Homepage (not completet, just half-baked):

[.: Klick hier :.] (http://mitglied.lycos.de/delphitools/DVDtoOgm/Main.htm) or [.: Klick hier :.] (http://dvdtoogm.divx-digest.com)


P.S.: Please excuse my bad English...:(

[filewalker]

Hi DVD,

wow, :eek: seems to be a really good solution for OGM!
Downloaded your programm and it really works fine!:)
... and the pick of the bunch is that it's in the usual way of Gknot-GUI, very familiar! I like it!

really, really interesting...for everyone who's making everthing manually.

Cu filewalker

[jeremymacmull]

Oh my absolute god !!! WOW

at the moment i encode sound first using ogg machine and then put in how big its going to be into GKnot and encode video then mux with ogg mux and ok but your program looks great especially if it can encode natively in Xvid.

Um did not actually find any bugs but i only did a very short test on a movie with one soundtrack no subs or chapters sorry......
will probably do a better one later. thing is does your proggie allow more that 2 pass encoding in divx 5.03 ??

a request tho an automatic installer would be great and compressibility check is vital specifically for xvid where u cant use gknot or so i think. but on the whole well done keep it up and i hope to see the next beta soon (crosses fingers :P)

Jeremy

[Manao]

So I will be the first to make a bug report ? Well in fact, it's not quite your fault. Let's explain the problem :

I can't open my d2v file, your program says : '25,000' ist kein gültiger Gleitkommawer Which means, if I understand correctly, that it doesn't like my number's separator settings. He is expecting a dot, and he's got a comma.

But, my system is kind of special : I have Win2K english version, but I'm french, and some Microsoft applications are in french ( even if I wanted them in english ), and perhaps they are confusing your program.

[RathO]

Link above is dead, any new link? so i can test it! :)

[DVD]

Seems as if the Link is working (again)...

I don't have any problems...

THX so far...

[RathO]

Thanx ill give it a try :)

[duartix]

Suggestion:
1) I don't know how it's working but:
It would be interesting if we could set Keyframes for Chapter starts.
Would give proper chapter seeking.
2) Start/End Credits are a must implement.

Question:
1) Since it does use VirtualDubMod does it work with AviSynth 2.5 in YV12 colourspace? I guess so. Need confirmation.

Request:
I know this sounds stupid but:
Encode TAB| Pass Settings
Besides: Both Passes; 2-Pass, 1st Pass; 2-Pass, 2nd Pass, would like to see: 1 Pass quality.

So you can ask me: "Why the hell does he want this?"
Because I don't care about size, just quality. I happen to like the container, so I encode without resizing at Q2 KFrame, Q3 PFrame, BFrames (3,150,100) and fit as many movies as I can on one DVD-R.

[filewalker]

@duartix
1) Since it does use VirtualDubMod does it work with AviSynth 2.5 in YV12 colourspace? I guess so. Need confirmation. I can confirm that AS 2.5beta works well with this program. Install AS 2.5 beta and select the "MPEG2Dec3" under "Options"
Be careful that you crop with even numbers, which are divisible by 2, it's the same as in Gknot.

Cu filewalker

[angelyote]

@DVD
I am getting the same problem:
'29,9700' ist kein gültiger Gleitkommawer
with all my D2V's. I re-downloaded DVD2AVI 1.76 that you link to on doom9 and re-created my project file and that didn't clean it up and I hand edited the framerate field in the d2v but that didn't work either. My system is American regionalization.

Please see below for a suggestion on cropping :)

@filewalker:
If you are using the resizers in avisynth 2.5 you can avoid needing to crop by an even number by using the resize filter to crop.

this quoted from the avisynth documentation:
For all resizes you can use an expanded syntax which crops before resizing. The same operations are performed as if you put a Crop before the Resize, there can be a slight speed difference.


Crop(10,10,200,300).BilinearResize(100,150)
is the same as
BilinearResize(100,150,10,10,200,300)

It would be nice to see an option (like a radio button or a checkbox) that would allow you to choose to either crop in a crop statement or at the end of the resize parameters.

Dave

[Apfelstruhdl]

Looks pretty promising.

how are you muxxing the video and audio stuff together??

i would prefer OGMuxer, which works very good ( better then any dsfilter solution)...

-and as mentioned before: a credits-solution would be good

[filewalker]

@angelyote
I read your thread in the AS Forum but sh0dan wrote:Using crop separate is slightly faster, but otherwise there is little difference, except you can crop on with all numbers when resizing.
Speed is more important for me than even numbers...but it's a matter of taste!
Nevertheless this option to switch between these two modes of cropping would be cool.:)

@Apfelstruhdl
VirtualDubMod doesn't use a directshow filter to mux,only OggMux, or?
Suiryc wrote in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=44898)OggMux uses OggDS (DirectShow filters) while VirtualDubMod doesn't.Cu filewalker

[DVD]

Thanks a lot for all this tips and hints...

i will try to improve them, if they sound good, to my Tool..

Also I will try to fix the Framerate Bug...

THX for testing and posting!

[edit] I think I found the problem. Will be changed in the next version! THX [edit]

[Selur]

So to sum it up:

bugs found:
'international' Framerate Bug :)

suggestions:
useing oggmux instead of VirtualDubMod for muxing


hopes for new features:
- endcredit encoding for DivX&Xvid
- keyframes at chapterpoints with DivX&Xvid
- choose between 'resize before cropping' and 'cropping before resize'
- compression check for DivX&Xvid
- a complete ODVD2OGM-Pack with all the tools you need ;)

About the keyframes at chapterpoints, I read somewhere in the forum that at least for xvid it's possible by modifying the log file, but I couldn't find ay info on how to do it with DivX.

Cu Selur

Ps.: @DVD: take you time with the updates/patches, we don't want to lose a programmer like we lost nanDub some time ago. :)

[Manao]

useing oggmux instead of VirtualDubMod for muxing No, not OggMux, which is DSF based, but ogmuxer ( ported by Suiryc under Windows ), which is a commandline tool for muxing in ogm. ( But it muxes the same way VDubMod does, since it is the same programmer ).

[DVD]

Ok!

I red all, what you've postet.

I will try to include as many as possible and as fast as i could.

THX!

DVD

[DVD]

Ok, there is still a lot to do.

i thought I bring out another release with some more functions and to show you i'm still on it...

I will try to include your ideas as fast a possible...

Bug-reports and ideas are still welcome! THX

Changelog:

[Release 1.10 alpha] [10.02.2003]


[Bugfix]

- Audio: "Advanced"-Tab Buttons fixed
- DivX 5.03 Settings fixed
- Rename Settings-Slot fixed
- Muxing-Job Chapter fix
- Queue displays 1st-pass correctly
- Framerate bug when opening a *.d2v
- Some other little things


[Added]

- Log-File Support
- AviSynth 2.5b can be used now
- Comes in form of an Installer
- Changed guides-format to *.html
- Crop & Preview window added
- Some other little things

Here is the Link again:

http://mitglied.lycos.de/delphitools/DVDtoOgm/Main.htm

[kairos]

Hey this is a great program and worked great on the dvd's I encoded, but I ran into a problem when converting some svcd's to ogm, in particular, the fact that it won't let me select mpa for my input audio stream. I've done it under advanced tab in the audio section using oggmachine, but would love to have it supported.

Yes I really am that lazy, if it's too much trouble dont worry about it. keep up the great work

[jkwarras]

Great tool,

I've test it and have some suggestions/questions/comments to you, may be it will help :)

- Bitrate calculation: not good, always around 10kbps over the right bitrate, for a small file it's not a big deal, but for a movie of 1h30, it can get 10MB oversized. If you look at the same project into gordianknot, or another tool, you'll see that the bitrate is always around 10kbps less than in DVDtoOGM. I think the problem is about the 1000KB and 1024KB (if I remember well) issue for calculating bitrate. Just to know what i'm talking about, load the d2v project into DVDtoOGM, put the target size and look at the *KB* target size, do the same thing into gordianknot, the *KB* target size it's slightly different.

- Question: does DVDtoOGM calculate the overhead for muxing audio/video?

- When i load a mp3 encoded file to mux with the movie to encode with DVDtoOGM, it doesn't recalculate the bitrate, at least not showing it, because the bitrate for encoding the movie doesn't change. I think it recalculate anyway later.

- Auto-crop will be great.

- More video comments option (title, copyright, artist, date, etc...)

- Simpleresize, Bicublinresize, Separatefields/even support :)

Ok, for me the main issue it's just the wrong bitrate calculations, cause the tool is great and i as far as it's get solution, i definetly swith to this one :)

jkwarras

[beber75]

Well, it'll be nice if it should support convolution3d filter. I must always replace your avs script before I start the encoding.

[DVD]

Much fun...

Changelog:

[Release 1.20 alpha] [09.03.2003]

[Bugfix]

- Save and Load Settings Bugfix
- Some Crop-Window Bugfixes
- VirtualDubMod is startet minimized
- Now updates when opening new *.d2v
- Encode-Window required Diskspace
- Some Framecount and d2v-Errors

[Added]

- Settings now saved in Registry
- Two Autocrop methodes are avivable
- Added "Aspect Error" Display Label
- H-Steps can be choosen now
- Credits can be encoded seperatly
- Added some more AviSynth Filters
- Full DivX and Xvid Codec menu
- Comments now editable
- follows ITU-R BT.601 Standard now

Link:

http://mitglied.lycos.de/myDVDnet/Main.htm

P.S.: I'll keep you wishlist in mind... Don't worry...

[DVD]

Homepage is now:

http://dvdtoogm.tripod.com/

THX! DVD

[HaSh]

looks really promising...

[DVD]

1.) We are (finallay) moved to http://DVDtoOgm.DivX-Digest.com!
For now the page is only German, but within the next days a English one will be available!

2.) There will also soon be a update to DVDtoOgm 1.20.1 alpha, which fixes a Subtitles and a Chapters Bug! Hope it will be up the next days!

THX and keep on testing!

DVD

[deXtoRious]

I'll test it when english page will be online.

[DVD]

You can Download I from the Download area @ DivX-Digest.com

Means here:

http://www.divx-digest.com/software/dvdtoogm.html

(hope the update will be up there tomorrow or tonight)

[DVD]

Finally the Homepage Update is finsihed. It is up in English & German.

DVDtoOgm 1.20.1 alpha Update has been released.

[Sirber]

Will try. DOes it support the new DIVX codec?

[DVD]

Actually yes. You'll have full DivX Codec Menue for your Settings.

You can use DivX 5.02 (pro) or DivX 5.03 (pro) for Encoding...

[jkwarras]

HI,

I posted that error sometime ago, by anyway as i think it's really important for this great tool, i'll post it again;

I think there's is an error calculation for the bitrate with DVD2OGM. I think it's only a simple error: 1 MB is 1024*1024 and not 1000*1000 which i think the software is using (in terms of converting size in bytes into size in MB) so this is why i think is doing it wrong; For a 1h30 movie you get 30-40 kpbs more than in Gknot or other calculators, and in the end you get a file that's over 10-15 MB bigger.

Am i wrong? Maybe, forget me if i am; Only trying to help :)

Superfly

PD: IS there support for 1 pass Quality based encode in DVDtoOGM? i think there is, as i've seen "something 1 pass" in the encode section, but i've not tried yet.

[DVD]

I posted that error sometime ago, by anyway as i think it's really important for this great tool, i'll post it again; Well, the calculations are on my to do list. A german user found a way to calculate the Ogm Overhead quite good. This will be included in a new version, out about end of april, I hope. Thanks you remindend me...

IS there support for 1 pass Quality based encode in DVDtoOGM? i think there is, as i've seen "something 1 pass" in the encode section, but i've not tried yet. Yes it does!

See: http://DVDtoOgm.DivX-Digest.com/grafik/Screens/encode.html (the Encoding Tab has changed a bit now!)

[HaSh]

good program. I just used it to make a ogm rip and its great. Keep up the good work. :)

[duartix]

Really Great Work DVD !!!

[Shuichiro]

Hi.

I haved used DVDToOgm since Alpha 1.20 and had not many problems first. It only killed GKnot to function anymore ;) VirtualDub doesn'T start encoding after installing DVD2Ogm.

Now I have installed the bugfixed Alpha 1.20.1 and did now have a problem when I crop manually (don't know if automatic has the same problem cuz it doesn't work right for me). The finfished video give me a green line at the right side with lanczos and on the top with neutral bic? I know there was some dividing problem with Simple Resize that causes that bug, too.

Anyone can help me? Thanx!

[A&AM]F@llenAngel
www.animeandasianmovies.de.vu

[jkwarras]

Originally posted by Shuichiro
The finfished video give me a green line at the right side with lanczos and on the top with neutral bic? I know there was some dividing problem with Simple Resize that causes that bug, too.

The problem is not related to DVD2OGM, it has to do with the resize or the deinterlace method. I had the same problem. It sometimes happen with some resizers at specifics resolutions right after thecrop and before the resize, but it was with Bicublinresize, never heard it about lanczos or bicubic.

It surely is a problem related to the deinterlace method. What deinterlace are you using. Decomb don't make problems, i had this problems with "YV12VerticalreduceBy2" and with another one i can't remember right now. How to solve it? Put the deinterlace method before and then after crop; See if the green line disappear.

Hope it helps.

jkwarras

PD: This question is not related to DVD2OGM so maybe you just have to start a new topic :)

[kilg0r3]

this green line also appears in xvid encoded material when vdub is set to fullprocessing mode.

it is also present when viewing a YV12 file in vdub.

[duartix]

Since I'm temporarily out of material to test, can anyone tell me if DVD2OGM will insert keyframes at chapter starts in 1 Pass scenarios?
Thanks.

[DVD]

Since I'm temporarily out of material to test, can anyone tell me if DVD2OGM will insert keyframes at chapter starts in 1 Pass scenarios? Not yet, but i've some ideas how to...

[duartix]

If you want a borrowed one, (it's not mine either) you can go the chapter encode way. Encode every chapter separately and then merge them all together. It's simple, it's easy, it's welcome.
This great tool is getting near perfect!:D :D :D

[robgarib]

Hi, It's a long time that nobody write on this forum!!
What about a new version of DVD TO OGM with support to the latest programs like virtualdub mod 1.5.1.1a?
It's possible to put in the gui a tool to encode directly xcds?

[DVD]

Well, maybe tonight something happens! ;)

So far to say:

- New VirtualDubMod Version
- AVS Input
- Custom Avisyth Filters can be set
- Better Crop & Resize Window
- Some export and import functions
- Bitrate Calc. Improvements (In fact just one MB oversized last test)
- Calc can be done for a) Filesize b) Bitrate
- Added some more Options (like load/save on startup/close)
- Lnaguage file support (included: German & of course English)
- Automatisation and many little things
- Custom AR and Resolution is back (also for no ITU-R BT.601 Fans)
- Huge number of bugfixes

On least bug I found yesterday, which I will try to improve now! Version will hopefully out tonight.

[duartix]

Last time you said you were saying you had ideas about 1-Pass chapter keyframing.
Have you adressed that?
Thank you for your great work.

[robgarib]

Thank you for your reply.
I wait for the new version.
What do you think of including in the "Useful" window the "Mode 2 cd maker gui" for the creation of xcds?
And i think that can delete "Smartripper" from the "Prepare" window because it's too much similar to "Dvd Decrypter" that has more powerful options.

[DVD]

Yes and yes! :D

But not this time...

Sorry, but I will remember!

[fizgig10]

Any chance of incorporating the Bits per (Pixel*Frame) like Gordian Knot does? If not, what's a good method for selecting the resolution to resize to?

Edit: Great program by the way!!! Love it!!

[DVD]

This is planed to!

It will come together with the Comnp. Check next version!

[ChristianHJW]

matroska output :D ???

[Sigmatador]

lol with the last virtualdubmod, it could be very easy to release en DVDtoMKV ^^ just the "save as" is changing :D

[robgarib]

I have just downloaded the 1.30 beta version and this evening i'll try it.
I see that you have put in the software pack the old versions of Dvd Decrypter and BeSweet.
Can i change manually this programs in the dvdtoogm folder with the latest versions?
I have already tried it with version 1.20.1 and the program work well without problems.

[DVD]

Yes, these could be updated I think without any problems!

DVD Decrypter - no prob
BeSweet - give it a try, but i think it will work!

For all:

new Version out @ http://www.divx-digest.com/software/dvdtoogm.html

Hopfully the Homepage (http://DVDtoOgm.DivX-Digest.com) will be updated soon!