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kdiaz
30th January 2003, 17:49
I keep getting this error: "encrypted data detected" followed by "dvd2one can not decrypt protected data" when trying to work on my minority report dvd. I used dvd decrypter to rip the whole dvd before hand and got this error when using dvd2one. Then I tried to have IFO edit strip it down further with demacrovision, then still received the same problem. Haven't been able to find out any information about this. Can anyone help?

gooki
30th January 2003, 21:23
Could be RCE protection stuffing things up.

ArkiMage
31st January 2003, 01:58
I ripped Minority Report with DVD Decryptor yesterday then down-sampled it with DVD2ONE with no problems. Sounds like you have some option in DVD Decryptor wrong or something... As if it's not fully removing CSS encryption or something else. Double-check your settings I suppose.

mordant
31st January 2003, 05:23
Hey Kadiaz, I'm having the same problem. I've tried DVDdecrypter with file/ifo/and image with no luck (mounted the image with Daemon Tools). Someone on their forum suggested using smartripper with Check for CSS every chapter or Vob ect. I'm trying the every chapter mode right now.

Will update as I go along...let me know if you have any success.

kdiaz
31st January 2003, 07:18
Originally posted by ArkiMage
I ripped Minority Report with DVD Decryptor yesterday then down-sampled it with DVD2ONE with no problems. Sounds like you have some option in DVD Decryptor wrong or something... As if it's not fully removing CSS encryption or something else. Double-check your settings I suppose.

Thanks but I may need help on changing anything with CSS settings due to me usually leaving everything with DVD Decrypter on default configuration. Otherwise I'd have no idea what to do to make any changes there... From what I see, the CSS cracking method is set on "I/O key exchange -> Brute Force".

mordant
31st January 2003, 15:43
kdiaz,

do you have just one DVD-drive in your system...are you ripping with your DVD-R drive...and what type of drive do you have?

I've got a pioneer 104 and its on its own. Someone suggested trying to rip with a different drive, so I'm giving that a shot today.

kdiaz
31st January 2003, 15:51
Originally posted by mordant
Hey Kadiaz, I'm having the same problem. I've tried DVDdecrypter with file/ifo/and image with no luck (mounted the image with Daemon Tools). Someone on their forum suggested using smartripper with Check for CSS every chapter or Vob ect. I'm trying the every chapter mode right now.

Will update as I go along...let me know if you have any success.
Thanks for the tip Mordant! I used smartripper and it worked out fine. I'm still not sure what the problem was with dvd decrypter not be able to crack the encryption though. Anyone have any ideas?

I also wanted to know why some dvd standalones won't play the burns made after using dvd2one. I noticed that when I have an ISO image made from a movie that's small enough to do so, it'll work. Does this have anything to do with not having a menu or something? What is it that's missing?

atreides93
31st January 2003, 19:01
Very bizarre. I ripped minority report using dvd decryptor and re-encoded it with CCE/avisynth with no problems. I didn't try dvd2one on it because I didn't have it at the time. I guess I could try it again sometime if I get bored.

mordant
31st January 2003, 21:06
Well, I'm glad smartripper worked for you...but I'm still having no luck...

Tried letting DVD2SVCD rip the vobs and DVD2ONE says those are encrypted too.

*sigh* almost 24hrs I've ripping and re-ripping and I no longer think it has anything to do with the ripping. I think those files must be unencrypted, but DVD2ONE just doesn't see it that way.

It also seems that if I'm doing something else with my computer while DVD2ONE is running that the program gets further along before it finds encryption...

help?

ElAguila
31st January 2003, 22:11
I have found some movies that dvd decrypter didn't remove all of the protection and I was able to rip it with smartripper. I usually use dvd decrypter unless I have problems then I use smartripper.

kdiaz
1st February 2003, 00:57
Now that the dvd2one is done. Anyone know how to burn the files with recordnow software? There's nothing indicating that I'm trying to burn a dvd like nero usually does. But the website clearly states that nero won't make compatible burns for standalone players.

2COOL
1st February 2003, 01:28
Originally posted by kdiaz
Now that the dvd2one is done. Anyone know how to burn the files with recordnow software? There's nothing indicating that I'm trying to burn a dvd like nero usually does. But the website clearly states that nero won't make compatible burns for standalone players.

I know the website religiously states that but there are really a lot of people than you think, me included, burning with Nero & Imgtools with great success! Only one way to tell if it works for you. Burn it. You can use DVDRW if your DVD-player accepts it but unfortunately, mine doesn't but hey, all my DVD2one movies I've burnt so far with Nero 5.5.17.9 works.

EDIT: I use Imgtools more than I use regular Nero. Imgtools still uses Nero's API but doesn't hog my resources like Nero does. Besides, Nero complains about reallocation errors and files under 2KB.:(

2C:cool::cool:L

kdiaz
1st February 2003, 02:01
Originally posted by 2COOL
I know the website religiously states that but there are really a lot of people than you think, me included, burning with Nero & Imgtools with great success! Only one way to tell if it works for you. Burn it. You can use DVDRW if your DVD-player accepts it but unfortunately, mine doesn't but hey, all my DVD2one movies I've burnt so far with Nero 5.5.17.9 works.

EDIT: I use Imgtools more than I use regular Nero. Imgtools still uses Nero's API but doesn't hog my resources like Nero does. Besides, Nero complains about reallocation errors and files under 2KB.:(

2C:cool::cool:L
I've used nero for just about all my burns and it worked for my apex standalone. The problem isn't getting it to work on my own dvd...but others. The website states that Nero won't make dvd2one results very compatible with most standalones for some reason. That the best things to use for more compatibility is using RecordNow or PrimoDVD. I just have no idea how to use RecordNow when making dvds with the IFO file structure in UDF format to test out. In Nero, you have these options to pick from when making a burn.

vljenewein
1st February 2003, 06:44
kdiaz: Burn with Nero 5.5.10.0 need update, visit www.ahead.de
When burning try NO WIZARDS.. use UDF mode and already have made both a VIDEO_TS folder containg all the .vob and etc files created with DVD2ONE, and a blank all caps AUDIO_TS folder. Burn those two. I took movies to town to Circuit City, Wal-Mart, friends and my onw set top.. plus at work.. Daewo, Toshiba, Sony, Pioneer, Apex, Panasonic, Aiwa, etc etc.. all worked and as soon as you loaded the movie it begins to play and will step ahead to chapters if you want.

Talked with the author of DVD2ONE and he is geting feedback from NERO users that are having great success with NERO and burning in UDF mode. for what it's worth....

ElAguila
1st February 2003, 17:18
Version x.x.10 of nero has problem burning dvd's. If you can make the image using the imgtool, you can burn the image using dvd decrypter.

Remco
1st February 2003, 17:32
Nero v5.5.10.0 had a bug in the DVD-Video template, this bug is fixed in Nero v5.5.10.7 so you don't have to manually set UDF1.02 and stuff anymore...

Stomp's RecordNow MAX v4.5 also does a great job for standalone dvd players...personally I think there's no difference anymore between the latest Nero and RecordNow

Check CDFreaks for lots of info on burning :
CD Freaks Link (http://www.cdfreaks.com/news2.php3?ID=5615)

greets,
Remco

vljenewein
1st February 2003, 17:56
I downoaded the newere version of Nero and burns just fine.

I've been to CDFreaks.com website and registered for their forum but never got sent an activation email. If anyone reading this can contact an administrator there (post to them) I sure would appreciate it. Odd, to ask those reading one website forum to do a favor in another web site forum, huh? Not a great big deal, but I've tried the suggestions at the e-mail they sent to me and not working. System has me registered as jenefarm@direcway.com for e-mail and I can't re-regiser and change password as this is already assigned. So I'm stuck in limbo.

In DVD Decrypter, if you have the newer Adapter ASPI XP 4.71.1.0 installed, you can choose the WINASPI32 at the top of the list, in the I/O section of settings. have it get main movie and get the few closlely associated files above it.. I call at the starting point ... and include the with the rip (ctl + mouse click to keep the highlighted main movie files). Always get the file called VIDEO_TS.IFO file as it's sort of the mother ship of the main movie. DVD2one will sort out things from there.

kdiaz
1st February 2003, 20:01
Thanks guys, but I've already tried burns with Nero, and most of them don't seem to work on most standalone's for me...I'm going to try and use RecordNow for burning my dvd's from now on, because it seems to really work well with older and newer standalones alike...even PS2 read it! I could never get a ps2 to work burning through Nero. I've always made sure the it was UDF and had the "VIDEO_TS & AUDIO_TS" folders. Yet I couldn't get anything to work on other dvd players until I started using dvd2one and recordnow for the burn. I'm happy with that.

I've seen the quality on a 61" tv and did notice what people are talking about the blocks showing on the screen...but I also understand the argument that smaller tv's are only gonna look better, especially for really fast speed that the job was completed.

hammer
3rd February 2003, 23:44
if it plays on youre dvd fine but it sure as hell dont play on all.
Do not use nero.I burnt my first dvd with nero 5.5 10 great, played on computer ok played on my (Yamaha 520) nothing.my mates cyberhome dvd no problem . i thought it was media incompatibility. then I read this info on dvd2one.
"It is NOT recommended to use Nero. Tests have revealed that Nero does not make 100% compliant DVD-video disks, and numerous DVD players will not play disks made with Nero. We have had good results with RecordNow by Veritas and PrimoDVD by Prassi".
so i burnt the dvd again using recordnow max and hey presto worked a treat.

2COOL
3rd February 2003, 23:55
Originally posted by hammer
if it plays on youre dvd fine but it sure as hell dont play on all.
Do not use nero.I burnt my first dvd with nero 5.5 10 great, played on computer ok played on my (Yamaha 520) nothing.my mates cyberhome dvd no problem . i thought it was media incompatibility. then I read this info on dvd2one.
"It is NOT recommended to use Nero. Tests have revealed that Nero does not make 100% compliant DVD-video disks, and numerous DVD players will not play disks made with Nero. We have had good results with RecordNow by Veritas and PrimoDVD by Prassi".
so i burnt the dvd again using recordnow max and hey presto worked a treat.

If I do it your way, it may not work for me also. My picky Sony Player does not like UDF burnt DVDs. Don't be surprise when the author of DVD2One takes that recommendation off his website when he finds that alot of people, like me, have burnt with success. Even Nero has come out with a newer version than the one he was using at the moment. There are more people than you think that have ignored that recommendation and Nero worked flawlessly for them. That's why I always state in my replies with burning resolutions, "It works for me and maybe it'll work for you". Do what you gotta do for YOUR player because that's what matters unless you are distributing. We gotta make our DVD player to play properly as priority one.

2C:cool::cool:L

vljenewein
4th February 2003, 14:11
I agree with 2cool. The #1 priority in burning a DVD is if it will play in your set top player at home. This is the whole purpose of backing up the DVDs in the first place. Shold something happen to the 'recorded' movie... too many scratches, etc... well then we can pull out the original and re-do another one. BUT.. it has to be able to play in our own players. I don't really give a lot of thought on how many other players it can play on. I DID go about one day to find out how compatiable my burned DVD was for other players, and found Many that woud accept it. I did not find one yet that would not accept my Nero compiled DVD. Maybe your's wont work. I haven't a clue.

Perhaps I need to start a whole new thread with this main question : What is the reason that Nero, and other burners will or will not make a compliant DVD movie? Does each burner arrange the files differently? After all, there are only so many files in the composition, and there should be a VIDEO_TS.IFO that point to how each should play and get along with each other.

ulfschack
5th February 2003, 17:03
In most cases we prolly wouldn't need to pull out the original again. Even if the old burned rip should turn out "incompatible" with a newly bought stand-alone surely you could just copy the vobs over to HD and re-burn with "whatever app is recommended for the time being".

I seriously don't understand why so many of you fixate on the vendor of the burning app. It's lazer on ... lazer off, what's there to do so much differently? (ok oversimplified, but nevertheless). What in my mind logically would impact much more is:

* DVD-writer
* DVD media
(* and of course player)

It's because the multitude of such things we get so many differing reports of what's good and what's not.

One of the guys in the dvd2one team even said that they couldn't check if SMP worked optimally with their proggie, and this was because "they didn't have a machine to test it on". Now, to me this is saying that we're dealing with a small company. Proceeding then to ask: How many brands, burners and burning-apps do we think have been tested by them, as opposed to received incompatability reports, to make jugdement on what we really should use? So, to overstate, I think it's safe to assume that they make recommendations upon heresay (multitude problem) and/or very limited first hand experiences.

cheers

vljenewein
5th February 2003, 19:22
ulfschack I agree with you! Nero is burning with lead in and lead out and simply records files from HD to DVD media. Often times we start blaming the program or even our methods and perhpas it was that we had changed media (DVD media) without taknig that into consideration.

I had some KHypermedia disc and threw the last 5 in the trash can..literally! On parts of the movie they either skipped, froze or pixilated. I though it was me or perhaps the program I used.. it was neither. I swtiched to TDK for the next burn of the SAME files and that media played great in PC, and set tops. So I am wondering if a lot of it has to do with how well the media is accepted by the DVD plyaer? and since we are onto burners, how well does the burner create a good 'etch' of the files for the data to reside in? Either of those 2 things alone and/or in combination, may prevent compatibility among players.

hammer
5th February 2003, 23:01
for my yamaha the issue has to be nero because i used the same media and the same film to copy and the nero burned dvd did not work in yamaha and the recordmax now did .So I would think that rules out the media in my case.

ulfschack
6th February 2003, 11:50
Not necessarily (to quote the old "arguments-sketch"). Are you f.i. absolutely sure that the same settings were applied in the Nero as in RecordNow? Settings defaults differently depending on program, not to mention the shoddy nomendature typically coupled to new technologies.

It could also be a breach in the machine - program communication. That is to say that Nero doesn't fully understand to instruct your burner correctly. I agree that we're then talking about application dependant incompatabilities, BUT ... the next version fixes it ... or your next burner wont have these issues. Point is: You just can't go around saying that for stand-alone compatability Prassi is better than Nero ... and leave it at that. Well, in your case it obviously (probably... maybe) is.

Just for fun, try Nero at the following settings (use RW)

all files in an uppercase VIDEO_TS folder
include the (empty) AUDIO_TS right next to it
use template UDF/ISO (last one in the list)
mode 1 checked (8+3)
iso 9960 checked
nothing else checked
no multsession

Also one of the later versions are (from what I hear) faulty, so to be sure use the absolute latest.

I have yet to come against a player that refuses any of my compilations, assuming it reads DVD-R at all.

cheers

ADDITION (a day later)

I hadn't really tried dvd2one before, but last night I ripped spiderman. Ran it through the procedures, burned it with above settings. Actually this was also my first try on a DVD+RW, but what the hell ... there wasn't any problems. Nevertheless, all I safely can say is:

If your using any combinations of

* Burner: Sony DRU 5000 or Pioneer A03
* Media: LynxDV, Verbatim, Maxell, Princo, Riteck, Choice, Philips(+RW)
* Player: United, Philips 622, SAGA, DRAGON, pioneer 343
* Burner-app: Nero 5.5.9.13, with the above settings

... and it doesn't work, YOU'RE doing something wrong.

Let me repeat ... Never have it NOT worked on ANY try.