TMPGEnc and CCE

[yingx2]

Hi,

I started to use cce 2 days ago, since nearly all the reviews suggest that it is the best MPEG-2 encoder. But I have problem making good-looking svcds out of my tv captures with this program. Too many noticable compression artifacts there -- ringing, microblocks, mosquito noise....

However, I can get very acceptable results with TMPGEnc, but you know it always takes ages to encode something longer than 10 minutes. Here's my setting related to picture quality in TMPGenc:

Template:
SVCD NTSC
Rate control mode:
2-pass VBR
Noise Reduction:
Still picture: 20 Range: 1 Time axis: 20 ( High quality mode)
Motion search precision:
Highest quality
Soften block noise:
intra block 35 / no-intra block 35

I leave everyghing else as default.

With CCE, I just resize the source to 480x480 in the avisynth script, drag the avs file into the CCE window, select Super Video CD NTSC mode and hit "encode now". The avisynth script is something like:

LoadPlugin("mjpegcorrect.dll")
avisource("souce.avi")
MJPEGcorrect()
BicubicResize(480,480,0,1)

It's really fast but the result doesn't seem to be so good. I know that I must have done something very wrong. My question is: With CCE SP(2.66.0.1.0.7), how do I produce similar results to, or better results than the ones I obtained from TPPGEnc?

Thanks in advance.

[yingx2]

Hi, I guess maybe I can make my question clearer by offering some examples.

Source http://myweb.hinet.net/home1/joefox/source.avi (20MB)
The best I can get from TMPGEnc http://myweb.hinet.net/home1/joefox/TMPGEnc.m2v (1.6MB)
The best I can get from CCE 2.66 http://myweb.hinet.net/home1/joefox/CCE.m2v (1.6MB)

Obviously the one encoded with TMPGEnc looks much better, especially in the panning scence of the clip. Chances are I messed up something in CCE, so I uploaded the source to see if any of you could help me encode this clip correctly using CCE, and offer your settings. I'll be happier if you are also willing to provide your result as an attached file. (Please leave it interlaced. Does CCE really outperform TMPGEnc on low bitrate encoding jobs? 2500kbps, for example )

Thanks for any replies.

[yingx2]

I removed the files for some reason...

So, I can now safely claim that TMPGEnc beats CCE hands down at SVCD encoding. It's just a decision bewteen quality and speed.

[Zhnujm]

i have also made a test some time ago and came to the same results. tmpeg is better at low bitrate encoding. but at bitrates like 2500 as the one you used i coudnt find a big difference.
i think you have used 2-pass vbr in cce as well ?