Split by cell id

[nocciolo]

Is it possible to strip cell id (not vob id) using any tricks with ifoedit?
Thanks.

[REECYCUP]

do u want to take the cell #s out or
demux by cell? sorry im not clear
vobedit will demux by excellant program
doom dowload page

[nocciolo]

I want to split in the first dvd-r the chapters 1,2,3,4,5
and in the second dvd-r the chapters 6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14
If I use the "Strip vob id" option in Ifoedit I can't do it.
There is a trick to strip the cell [Cell 07] [V/C Id: 16/ 3]?
Thanks


PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [01:43:00.16 / 30 fps] (Programs: 14) (Cells: 17) (uses VOB-IDs: 13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22)

[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 13/ 1]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 13/ 2]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 14/ 1] (Angle 1)
[Cell 04] [V/C Id: 15/ 1] (Angle 2)
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 16/ 1]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 06] [V/C Id: 16/ 2]
[Ch 06] [Pg 06] [Cell 07] [V/C Id: 16/ 3]
[Ch 07] [Pg 07] [Cell 08] [V/C Id: 17/ 1] (Angle 1)
[Cell 09] [V/C Id: 18/ 1] (Angle 2)
[Ch 08] [Pg 08] [Cell 10] [V/C Id: 19/ 1]
[Ch 09] [Pg 09] [Cell 11] [V/C Id: 19/ 2] Layer Br.
[Ch 10] [Pg 10] [Cell 12] [V/C Id: 19/ 3]
[Ch 11] [Pg 11] [Cell 13] [V/C Id: 20/ 1] (Angle 1)
[Cell 14] [V/C Id: 21/ 1] (Angle 2)
[Ch 12] [Pg 12] [Cell 15] [V/C Id: 22/ 1]
[Ch 13] [Pg 13] [Cell 16] [V/C Id: 22/ 2]
[Ch 14] [Pg 14] [Cell 17] [V/C Id: 22/ 3]

[REECYCUP]

im new(bear with me)
im just trying to help!
are you trying to split the movie or keep an angle?
?whats so diff with cell 7 ?
plus you say cells then chapters ?
which are you trying to strip

you may be doing something way past me
if so, im sorry i didnt understand:(

[rmtaibo]

I imagine that you want that Vob/Cell Id 16/3 (chapter 6) is included in your disc 2 and the Vob/Cell Id 16/1 (chapter 4) and 16/2 (chapter 5) is included in your disc 1.
I think Ifoedit can't do it, but...
Try this:
Include both Vob-Id's in IfoEdit.
In both disc 1 and 2, just include the Vob-Id 16

How?
Using ifoedit you can do this:
Make first a DVD with the vob-ids as follows:
Disc 1-a: Vob-ids 13 to 16
Disc 2-a: Vob-ids 17 to 22
Then, make a DVD with the vob-Ids as follows:
Disc 1-b: Vob-ids 13 to 15
Disc 2-b: Vob-Ids 16 to 22

You don't need disc 2-a and disc 1-b, just delete these folders.
You will use Disc 1-a and Disc 2-b.

You will get a DVD with chapters 4, 5, and 6 included in both disc 1 and 2. Maybe you can live with it and be happy, or:

Then for disc 1-a, just use Vob-Edit to demux by Cell-Ids. Delete the cell-id 16/3. Join Cell/Vob files again with vob-edit.
Finally replace these vob files created by Vob-Edit to the folder that contains the disc 1-a again. Remember to rename the vob-files to the same name that Ifoedit created initially. Use Ifoedit-->VobExtras, uncheck Strip Streams and Remux m2v boxes, just check strip vob-ids, then select all vob-ids and check Correct Ifo Tables.

For the disc 2-b, use Vob-Edit, Demux by Cell Ids. Delete the cell Ids 16/1 and 16/2 (Maybe renamed by ifoedit, not sure, but you must remove the 2 initial cell ids in the second disc). Join Cell/Vob files. You must check that the file remuxed by vob-edit starts at Cell Id 3. Replace the files in folder disc 2-b with this files made by Vob-Edit. Use Ifoedit-->VobExtras, uncheck Strip Streams and Remux m2v boxes, just check strip vob-ids, then select all vob-ids and check Correct Ifo Tables.

This could work...
If not try to uncheck "correct ifo tables" and see what happens...
I didn't test it, but it could work. I used Vob-Edit with IfoEdit to strip/transcode menu files sucessfully. (In movies like Shrek, Spiderman, Bossa Nova. Movies that contains menu files, VTS_xx_0.VOB, too big)

Good Luck

Richard

[nocciolo]

Thanks a lot Richard it's a good idea.
I'll try.
I have found an another way but it is very hard.
Using vobedit I changed cell id 16/1 e 16/2 into 15/2 e 15/3.
So I put in disc 1 vob ids 13,14,15
and in disc 2 vob ids 16,17,18,19,20,21,22
I works but your way is better.
Greetings.

[rmtaibo]

Your solution was very good too!
Don't know if mine works.
BTW, Can you go directly to chapters 4 and 5 from the Scene Selection DVD Menu?
Because your ifo file doesn't mention that exist Vob Ids 15/2 and 15/3. Maybe if you begin from Chapter 3 or earlier your DVD player can play chapters 4 and 5. But I don't believe that you can jump directly to this chapters using the Scenes Selection Menu.
Maybe you can if you use IfoEdit after Vob-Edit thing, remuxing it again and adjusting VOBU pointers...
(Sorry, don't know if you kept the original menus)

Update:
I think you used VobEdit to change VOB/Cell IDs (16/1 and 16/2 to 15/2 and 15/3) in the ripped DVD, and then splitted onto 2 disc using IfoEdit. Right?
If you did this way, your player will jump to this chapters correctly.

[nocciolo]

>>Because your ifo file doesn't mention that exist Vob Ids 15/2 and 15/3

I have modified the ifo file in this way:


[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 13/ 1]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 13/ 2]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 14/ 1] (Angle 1)
[Cell 04] [V/C Id: 15/ 1] (Angle 2)
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 15/ 2]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 06] [V/C Id: 15/ 3]
[Ch 06] [Pg 06] [Cell 07] [V/C Id: 16/ 3]
[Ch 07] [Pg 07] [Cell 08] [V/C Id: 17/ 1] (Angle 1)
[Cell 09] [V/C Id: 18/ 1] (Angle 2)

It works but I want to try your idea.
Greetings.

[rmtaibo]

Sure your method works!
I didn't imagine that you could modify the ifo file in this way.

[nocciolo]

The real problem is not to modify the ifo file.
It's very simple.
The problem is to change the vob and cell id to the vob file.
I used an hex editor to modify it.
Greetings.