help me with this max bitrate thing! :(

[scooterlord]

well, you've got to help me people before i get mad because of this. I have this movie 'irreversible' greek version dvd. so, it contains one subtitle track (greek) and the original french dolby digital audio (yeah, just this one-after all it's a greek produced dvd, i didn't expect more). its size? 6.5gb! 1,5 hour, no extras inlcuded in this one... i just say this because it may matter but i am not sure myself it does.

i followed normal procedures, subrip, chapterxtractor, dvd2avi, avisynth, cce... well, i encoded about 10 times and still can't make this thing authorize! i read many threads about such probs and tried every single solution stated. the result is nothing! i'm using cce 2.50, i encoded with max bitrate 9000, 8000, 6000...nothing, the result is the same. maestro gives me 'max bitrate too high, reduce streams or bitrate'. i unchecked the 'dvd compliant' option, result the same. i just reencoded from scratch using max bitrate 8000 using 1pass vbr and this is what happens (it may have happened before but didn't try it). I saw in a thread that someone mentioned about not putting subs so i tried that! and...what do you know. everything proceeds normally! so...what's wrong here? i mean, is there a way to know the bitrate of subs? there are 695 subs, i have no space prob in the dvd... is it maestro's bug?

what can i do? it's driving me crazy! the only thing i didn't try (so far) is the one pass cbr (i am doing atm). comments, ideas, help!

[EcchiNut]

try using the tool DVD2DVD-R
(www.dvd2dvd-r.de - yah the site is german, but the tool is in english).

you should be able to keep the streams, and it will downsample to the correct bitrate it auto detects needed using CCE, and re-author automatically with IFOedit (it does this by itself). Thats the only "easy" solution that i can give. Though depending on your PGC structure and that, you might lose the menu.

[scooterlord]

well, this was a quick answer, but not quite what i am looking for. if this program does all that much, how come it's not that popular? :/

[TRILIGHT]

It's not popular because it's crap, Scooter. Normally, your problem is the "DVD compliant" selection you are making in CCE when you encode. If you don't check this box and you will be fine. However, since you say you still get the problem, I can only imagine that your max bitrate you are setting + the bitrate of all audio (remember, it's ALL audio tracks) + the bitrate of the subs is busting 9800. I'm not sure but I thought there was some place to set the bitrate subs get encoded to in Maestro? I've used Scenarist for so long now for DVD backups, I don't remember.

[EcchiNut]

yah im bad >_<

not too sure why your getting that error in the first place.

An alternative is use IFOedit to author the DVD instead. Sure its basic control. But its easy. And I very much doubt you'll get that error in IFOedit this way. Also gives more bitrate control then DVD2DVD-R and basically what you want it to do.

Just check out doom9's guide on how to do it.

[TRILIGHT]

Yeah you are bad. "Authoring" (I use the term loosely) in IFOedit is bad too. hehe ;) (Just giving you a hard time) The results are inconsistent. Also, getting errors is not always a bad thing! They protect you! Let's say it went ahead and let you do something that was past the max bitrate. You'd go to play it in your player and when it hit this part of the disc, it would garble the video or lock up altogether. Best to find out what the problem is and correct it at the source so you aren't unhappy with the final result later.

[scooterlord]

well, as i said before i had dvd compliant UNCHECKED and still had problems. when i did one of the past encodes (can't remember max bitrate) i used bitrate viewer on the .mpv which gave me a peak of 4350. there is only ONE audio track (384kbps) and only ONE subtitle track. maestro refused to authorize. gave me the max bitrate error.

i managed to make it work using cbr encoding in cce using 4500 bitrate (since the movie was short, had dvd space, and the peak as shown from bitrate viewer was less).

But i'd get even crazier if i don't learn what went wrong. what else could be wrong anyway? i mean, i encoded about 10 movies with no probs (uhm..almost :) so far.. geez

hope this helps some people that had trouble with max bitrate when adding subs (i had seen another thread for this where there was no answer given). however if anyone happens to find what was wrong i'd appreciate it a lot

[TRILIGHT]

Incidentally, do you mind sharing what title it was? Others might want to know. Other than what we've discussed, I am not quite sure where your problem lies.

[scooterlord]

well, as i already mentioned it is 'irreversible', created by a greek company. if it was created by another country i'd say it was a trick to 'lock' the dvd movie from being copied, but -lol- it's greek, so whatever was done, was done by mistake :P i'm positive.

anyway, i had other kinds of problems with fast and the furious as well, think it was not a seamless branched dvd but the ifo was upside-down... played from the middle of the movie , etc... oh, well

[oddyseus]

I see that u dont value greek dvds alot, lol. Well me neither.

have u checked out greek.doom9.org/forum ?