Sound TOO low Is there a way to fix this.. Also GN question

[hardwork12]

I encoded a backup of Spiderman last night using GN and used the AC3 sound.

When I play the file I have to crank the volume almost to the top to get a decent sound level. Normally I have the volume at 25% the most for MP3 playing etc.

How does one fix this Low sound problem or is this what is expected?

Thanks

Unrelated to sound the file size I get for the 2CD encoding is 1,432,964 that should fit but with no "breathing" room at all on two 700mb (71,680 KB). Did an outstanding job in maximum utilization of space but I like to overlap slightly, assuming this is possible have not tried yet, so I would like some "breathing" room is there a way to do this in GN.

I also notice that the encoding playes back DARK it needs some additional brightness and contrast. How is this dealt with?

Thanks ALL

[hakko504]

You can reencode the audio with besweet to a new DD5.1 or Ogg5.1 file. Just activate the normalization option in the gui. Read the BeSweet FAQ. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15738)

To get 'breathing' room either do two encodes (using 2 overlapping .d2v's) or set the total filesize to 2x695MB.

[hardwork12]

THANK YOU.. Just what I was looking for.

It is possible that my sound problem is because I am using windows media player I will have to see maybe it does not support DRC.

[TheWEF]

post your audio log file. :logfile:
i guess you did not install the complete rippack and are using an outdated version of besweet.

wef.

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by hakko504
To get 'breathing' room either do two encodes (using 2 overlapping .d2v's) or...

i highly recommend to not do that!
it hinders proper bitrate distribution and overrides advantages of 2-pass encoding.

wef.

[hardwork12]

It is possible I did not install the latest rippack as I had to rebuild my win2k due to a HDD crash. If it is not up to date do I have to uninstall and then re-install or just get the latest and install it?

I am at work right now but will be at home in two hours I will post the LOG file then. I really appreciate the help.

Is the log file in the directory I have the spiderman video files or in the Gordian Knot folder or I can do a search I just do not know the full exact name of the LOG file. I could not find a *.log file that seemed to look like an AUDIO log file.

Thanks

EDIT: took out log it made this post too long and it was the wrong thing anyway.

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by hardwork12
...and used the AC3 sound.

sorry, seems like i didn't read your first post. of course there is no audio logfile if you did not encode the audio to mp3 :o

in that case you're just having some kind of playback problem.

i recommend to install this AC3 Filter (http://ac3filter.sourceforge.net/)

wef.

[hardwork12]

I had the v0.61 of this filter installed bt the GN Install pack. I uninstalled that version and installed the 0.63 version that you recommended anyway. It does not appear that the filter is being used by windows media player since when I open the configure it does not show any information for a playback. Maybe I just do not know how to use that filter.

I tried playing the file again after a reboot before installing the filter you recommended and for some reson the sound was louder no idea why. Also the GN install pack installed DIVX player 2.0 beta and that has no sound at all for an AC3 file but plays my MP3 movie that I did just fine. Like you said I have player problems so maybe the encode is fine. I will have to sort out the Player problem.I will try BSPLAYER maybe that will work better. Now at least the Men in black II I did in MP3 and the Spiderman done in AC3 are about the same sound level its just that the windows sounds will blow your ears out at the setting needed to play the movies. Maybe this is normal.

It seems like given I encoded the movie using the *.AC3 file demuxed by DVD2AVI that this should have encoded corectly and I do not need to and should not have to do anything else for the sound. Is this correct?

Also i played the *.AC3 file by itself with the windows media player and it plays that file the same volume as the encoded version so the GN encoding did not affect the AC3 volume at all. So like you said must be a player problem.

Thanks again

[arch_angel16]

I've also had this problem, any help??

[manono]

Hi-

Is this correct?

Yep, that's correct.

I've also had this problem, any help??

Get the filter TheWEF linked to. You can configure it to give you more volume.

[hakko504]

Originally posted by TheWEF
it hinders proper bitrate distribution and overrides advantages of 2-pass encoding.

wef. That's true, but it also means that you don't get a cut in the middle of a scene, when two people are talking and one gets interrupted in the middle of a sentence. Highly annoying. And if you'r worrid you can always do a couple of compression tests to find the correct cutting place.

[hardwork12]

Get the filter TheWEF linked to. You can configure it to give you more volume.

I looked at the configuration utility so I think I see how to set this. I will try encoding just one VOB file to save time in testing so I can get the right settings.

My question is how I tell GN to use the filter or does it automatically apply it when I select 1xAC3 for the sound?

Thanks again

Excellent utility (program) this GN

[manono]

Hi-

It doesn't have anything to do with GKnot. I access it by right clicking the video and opening Properties in the BS Player. You can also find it by going Start-Program Files. It comes in automatically when you play a movie with AC3 audio.

Excellent utility (program) this GN

I'm sure TheWEF will be glad to hear he has another satisfied customer. He might be even happier if you'd get the initials right. :)

[hardwork12]

OOPS Sorry TheWEF:

GK, GK, GK, GK :o

I have done this the hard way doing 2pass with virtualdub and various bitrate calculators and with GK (did I get that right this time) i get better results and it is easy. :)

[dvd2mpeg4]

I use to experience low audio also when encoding using the "old" .26 method :D I'm quite sure it had everything to do with the BeSweet version, and the audio filters I used. I would recommend upgrading to GKnot .27 and follow TheWEF's advice and download that up-to-date AC3 filter v0.63b, along with the up-to-date BeSweet version included with the GKnot .27 package.
Lastly, in doom9's download page there's a new divX player called The Core Media Player 4 RC1, IMO, it's the best player for divX playback. It has PreAMP to crack up on the equalizer for maximum audio :D

[JensG.]

You could encode the complete film as a 1.4 GB file. Then you open it in Nandub and cut it into appropriate parts. You will have to experiment until you find the correct cutting points.

[hardwork12]

Thanks ALL

I have tried using the 2 X 695 setting for the CD size and everything always fits with very good bitrate and has the AC3 sound that I can play on my home theater very nicely. I also encode the credits at 20%. GKnot does a wonderful job!!!

The sound issue seemed to be windows media player when I use BSplayer its fine. With my DIVX player PC on my home theater I can adjust the output level of the PC so that it matches the same sound level as my other sources so it sounds and might I say looks great..

sorry for the late feedback

:rolleyes: