This is for real I WAS SHOCKED!

[TCCK]

At first I thought this was another scam scheme but no I found it is real and is open to anyone worldwide!

You can earn a P4 2.2 Ghz laptop with 256Mb of RAM, 40GB drive, DVD, CD RW drive, 56 K modem, 15" Super XGA Display, ATI Radeon 32Mb graphics adapter and Windows XP

You buy $5 worth of e-books and they give you the position on the matrix free (this is the legal way around the pyramid scheme laws), then you have to get 3 people under you signed up and they do the same.
Until you have 7 layers deep from you, You are layer 1 and then the last layer is 749 people so a total of just over 110 people and you get your laptop free because you have marketed thier product for them.

I am way into my 4th level on my one spot and on my other I am just starting (I want 2 so i have one for the wife!)

Edited by the moderator. Rule 5!

I know a few people will be ready to flame me for this but save your energy and just go on to the next thread!

[padre]

While it looks like clever attempt to circumvent the law, it's not really - it's still a form of mail fraud (A pyramid scheme is a well known form of mail fraud - whether it's done electronically or via postal mail).

And by your posting of this solicitation on this forum, you are inadvertently bringing the operator of Doom9 into the scheme. I'm sure he'll be happy you did that.

[cofferscuffs]

yay more crap where you can get nicely conned ;P

[TCCK]

Actually i have a cousin that is a lawyer in the USA and I checked with him first before I did this. I do due process on anything before I do it.

He told me directly that because you are buying a lgeitamite product and they are giving you the position in the matrix FREE that it is not illegal in the USA or most countries around the globe.

Plus DOOM9 knows me well adn all his site donations used to go into my US Bank account then I would mail him a check, when people were actually donating to him to help keep his site alive!

Yes just a side note DONATE TO DOOM9, man look at all the help he has given you!!!

You should check with a lawyer like I did before making a quick remark without knowing the facts!

:)

[TCCK]

Did I also say that my buddy already earned his on the other matrix tree that was the predicessor to this one by the same company!

I have seen it, touched it and it is nice!

That is the only reason I looked seriously at this!!!!


Be a pesamist if you want but I have seen the fruits of his labors!

[padre]

Funny, my brother is a postal inspector - sorta the reason I know a little more about the subject than most. I can assure you that the current round of 'get rich quick' emails ARE illegal in the US. I'll be more than happy to get the US Postal Code section for ya, the next time I talk to him.

Besides all the 'legal' issues, who in their right might is going to participate in a pyramid scheme?? Why do you think many ISP's are kicking users off their service if they discover they are the source of the solications?

Also, I believe your post clearly violates rule #5 - "Do not spam. No blatant advertising."

If that's not spam, then I don't know the definition....

[ReTroAcTive]

leagle or not what will happen is someone will get screwed in the end. some dumbass will sign up, pay his 5 bucks, do whatever he has to do and never get shit because the top people have gotten theres and the whole thing has come a part as all pyramid schemes do.

[mpucoder]

While I don't condone pyramids or "MLM", and this certainly is one, I don't understand how the USPS has jurisdiction over email or the internet.

[padre]

It only is valid (enforceable) in the US, for mail (or other types of written communications) between a US citizen to another a US citizen. Or, at least it's my understanding of what he told me.

So it's not really a problem outside the US. That's sorta how come the Internet gaming has gone wild, originating outside the US. Congress can deem them illegal, but has no power to act outside the bounderies.

Like the others have said - throw out the legal issues, why on Earth would someone get caught up in a pyramid scheme? Anyone with common sense would see it for what it is - a scam.

[padre]

How about this post, from the US Postal Service

http://www.usps.com/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm


A chain letter is a "get rich quick" scheme that promises that your mail box will soon be stuffed full of cash if you decide to participate. You're told you can make thousands of dollars every month if you follow the detailed instructions in the letter.

A typical chain letter includes names and addresses of several individuals whom you may or may not know. You are instructed to send a certain amount of money--usually $5--to the person at the top of the list, and then eliminate that name and add yours to the bottom. You are then instructed to mail copies of the letter to a few more individuals who will hopefully repeat the entire process. The letter promises that if they follow the same procedure, your name will gradually move to the top of the list and you'll receive money -- lots of it.

There's at least one problem with chain letters. They're illegal if they request money or other items of value and promise a substantial return to the participants. Chain letters are a form of gambling, and sending them through the mail (or delivering them in person or by computer, but mailing money to participate) violates Title 18, United States Code, Section 1302, the Postal Lottery Statute. (Chain letters that ask for items of minor value, like picture postcards or recipes, may be mailed, since such items are not things of value within the meaning of the law.)

Recently, high-tech chain letters have begun surfacing. They may be disseminated over the Internet, or may require the copying and mailing of computer disks rather than paper. Regardless of what technology is used to advance the scheme, if the mail is used at any step along the way, it is still illegal.

The main thing to remember is that a chain letter is simply a bad investment. You certainly won't get rich. You will receive little or no money. The few dollars you may get will probably not be as much as you spend making and mailing copies of the chain letter.

Chain letters don't work because the promise that all participants in a chain letter will be winners is mathematically impossible. Also, many people participate, but do not send money to the person at the top of the list. Some others create a chain letter that lists their name numerous times--in various forms with different addressee. So, in reality, all the money in a chain is going to one person.

Do not be fooled if the chain letter is used to sell inexpensive reports on credit, mail order sales, mailing lists, or other topics. The primary purpose is to take your money, not to sell information. "Selling" a product does not ensure legality. Be doubly suspicious if there's a claim that the U.S. Postal Service or U.S. Postal Inspection Service has declared the letter legal. This is said only to mislead you. Neither the Postal Service nor Postal Inspectors give prior approval to any chain letter.

Participating in a chain letter is a losing proposition. Turn over any chain letter you receive that asks for money or other items of value to your local postmaster or nearest Postal Inspector. Write on the mailing envelope of the letter or in a separate transmittal letter, "I received this in the mail and believe it may be illegal."

[sh0dan]

Why isn't this thread nuked yet?

[Ookami]

Originally posted by sh0dan
Why isn't this thread nuked yet?

Because I'm not always on the internet.