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Matthew
20th January 2003, 06:46
Had some issues not unlike those here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42487

Specifically a couple of discs not being completed at 2x, so last 10-20 mins of movie is not there. Another burned correctly but is playing up towards end of movie when played on a DVD player (fine on a computer). Burned a couple at 1x and they seem okay though (except for a couple of minor audio skips on one disc, that could have been dust though). Although even at 1x I don't trust them for standalone playback and will reburn when I get the discs replaced.

Verbatim obviously knows there is a problem as they are sending out replacements without even wanting the bad discs back. So I'm left with 20 or so of these bad blanks.

Anyway after that verbose preamble here's the question. I'm wondering, if I use them for data at 1x, is it reasonable to expect the leftover bad discs will not go crook on me if they burn okay in the first instance? i.e. if I burn 4,699,000,000 bytes of documents onto one of these discs at 1x and the data is burned correctly byte for byte, would it be likely that in a few months time the discs won't read correctly on a computer?

alexnoe
20th January 2003, 07:45
If Verbatim really sends out replacements without wanting the broken discs back, then there must be a really bad batch out! I would be veeeeeery careful with them, and would not safe anything important to them.

Matthew
21st January 2003, 02:03
Thanks for the reply.

Well they've had a lot sent back already so it's better all round for them just to get proof of purchase :)

I was hoping that you'd say that problems with initial burns and standalone compatibility are a different kettle of fish from having problems in computer drives with successfully burned discs. Because it sure would be nice to be able to use the discs.

Chibi Jasmin
2nd February 2003, 01:42
Damn! I just ordered a bunch of Verbatims before reading this...remembered alexnoe saying they were reliable... :(

So it is the ones with a blue ring in the middle that are bad? Or anyone has an id for the bad ones (with or maybe also without blue ring)?

alexnoe
3rd February 2003, 11:41
@Jasmin: I personally have not yet seen a bad Verbatim disc, neither have I heard of problems with them in Germany. Maybe they have not shipped that bad batch to us :D

Chibi Jasmin
3rd February 2003, 11:48
Originally posted by alexnoe
@Jasmin: I personally have not yet seen a bad Verbatim disc, neither have I heard of problems with them in Germany. Maybe they have not shipped that bad batch to us :D

Good to hear that...hope you're right :D

UPDATE: They just called and said they are on backorder...you have any idea, where I can order cheap verbatim dvd-rs TODAY? :)

Matthew
4th February 2003, 01:00
Chibi Jasmin, AFAIK the fixed ones they are sending out will be blue rings as well. They'll just be good blue rings :)

I can't use ADVDInfo btw (doesn't seem to work with firewire) so unfortunately can't provide any sort of ID obtainable using that prog.

Also, I'm in au so bad discs that were long gone in places like eu/us may still be hanging around here.

alexnoe
4th February 2003, 01:13
Substitute your wnaspi32.dll by the one Nero brings with it. That might help (but safe the old one! No guarranty!)

Matthew
4th February 2003, 04:52
Thanks for the suggestion alexnoe. Just tried it, and I received a "could not detect DVDROM" error (usually it detects the DVDROM drive, just not the burner).

Oh well, it ain't that big a deal in the whole scheme of things, as I don't touch cheap media (and it's mainly for this media that the prog seems to come in handy).

Chibi Jasmin
4th February 2003, 13:11
Originally posted by Matthew
Chibi Jasmin, AFAIK the fixed ones they are sending out will be blue rings as well. They'll just be good blue rings :)

I can't use ADVDInfo btw (doesn't seem to work with firewire) so unfortunately can't provide any sort of ID obtainable using that prog.

Also, I'm in au so bad discs that were long gone in places like eu/us may still be hanging around here.

Well...thanx...will see...still found no good place to order them halfway cheap.....alexnoe, you know one? Or are there any other halfway decent and halfway cheap ones out in the meantime?

alexnoe
7th February 2003, 19:32
www.snogard.de
=> 2,70 Euro each

Chibi Jasmin
7th February 2003, 20:56
Thanx...let's hope they have some in stock :)