anime problems

[elcay]

Hi all. I´ve been doing convertions with the DVD2SVCD bundle without problems on ordinary films. So next step is anime. Ooooops....what a step. I just can´t get to the stage, where i´m satisfied with my results. I know zip about scripting/programing and i have some translation problems. So maybe one of you masterminds can help me out.

I can´t seem to get fluid or smooth output in highmotion scenes. I´ve read a lot, but can´t make much sence out of it. I would like to know how to use the filters within the bundle. What to write in a script.

This is what bitrateviewer tells me:
Stream type: MPEG-2 MP@ML VBR
Resolution: 720*576
Aspect ratio: 16:9 Generic
Framerate: 25.00
Nom. bitrate: 7500000 Bit/Sec
VBV buffer size: 112
Constrained param. flag: No
Chroma format: 4:2:0
DCT precision: 9
Pic. structure: Frame
Field topfirst: Yes
DCT type: Field
Quantscale: Nonlinear
Scan type: ZigZag
Frame type: Interlaced

These settings are so far the most pleasing results to my eyes. I´ve tried about 25 different settings:
Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1540983976
AudioSectors: 84795788
VideoPAPO: 22557132
ScanOffsetBytes: 125286
SeqAligningBytes: 7962621
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 1425543140.67
Seconds: 4183.20
CalcMPEGStream: 1425543140.67
Frames: 104405
CDSize: 740.00
Number of CDs: 2
Cut point 735.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 104405
Anti Noise Filter: 15
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 15
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 500
Max. bitrate: 2780
Avg. Bitrate: 2580
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("D:\Flimmer\DVD2SVCD\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\Flimmer\DVD2SVCD\DVD2SVCD\INVERS~1\DONALD~1\decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\Flimmer\DVD2SVCD\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
BicubicResize(480,432,0.0,0.75)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Can someone please help me out here with the blurry lines (along the bodies and the water). Ask away if you need more info.

:rolleyes:




"If you haven´t got a chance - use it!"

[elcay]

Sorry folks. Unable to upload jpg image. I´ll get back. You can see the encoded pic in "newbie"-prob with anime. Dont know how to make links yet.

elcay

[onisama]

Here is what my avs script looks like for anime or anything else interlaced for that matter:

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SV~1.09B\MPEG2Dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SV~1.09B\INVERS~1\DONALD~1\decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\DOCUME~1\WINDOW~1\Desktop\DVDTEMP\GUNDAM~1\ep36\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide(guide=1,gthresh=50,chroma=true,threshold=30)
Decimate(Cycle=5)
BicubicResize(480,480,0,0.55)
TemporalSmoother(2,1)
ResampleAudio(44100)

These two lines are the important ones:

Telecide(guide=1,gthresh=50,chroma=true,threshold=30)
Decimate(Cycle=5)


This has worked great for me every time.

[elcay]

onisama

I will try these settings ASAP. I hope to succed. Otherwise i´ll do the Schwarzenegger - "i´ll be back".

elcay

[elcay]

onisama

Bad news. I tried your settings and got an error message " framesize 480X624 is not supported. Supported framesize is up to 720X576":confused:

Then I changed the rezise to (480,432) like it says, if it is 16:9, and added bordes (0,72,0,72) also preselected. I then got the message "Framerate 20/1 is not supported". :confused:

I´m lost here. This is definately not in my league. And you are sure that these settings works within the DVD2SVCD bundle 1.1.0. build c?

elcay

[onisama]

try this instead:

telecide(post=false)
decimate(cycle=5)


I think this will also work:

telecide()
decimate(5)

You might also try just starting your encode over from the begining (if you are using crash recovery) and check IVTC in the dvd2avi tab of dvd2svcd. I think that will insert the second script I gave you.

Also when you say you cant get smooth output is the high action scenes are you talking about choppiness or block noise?

[elcay]

I tried your first script. Bad choise. It seems that f.ex. frame 2 is a blending of frame 1 and 3 and so on.

I´m not sure, but IVTC, isn´t that fore NTSC films?

I think you can see the clip i have in the newbie section. Choppy or blurry are the best words.

Should i still go for your second script?

[LeonMcNichol]

I just IVTC almost all anime. When I say almost, the only anime I didn't, was the Gundam Wing Endless Waltz movie. It some how would screw up it's field order (change between a and b through the movie). That I just didn't care anymore and did forced film and deinterlaced, which corrected it.


LoadPlugin("C:\DOCUME~1\default\MYDOCU~1\Exes\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\DOCUME~1\default\MYDOCU~1\Exes\DVD2SVCD\INVERS~1\DONALD~1\decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\DOCUME~1\default\MYDOCU~1\Rips\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
Decimate(5)
BicubicResize(480,480,0.333,0.333)


Personally, I like to add my own subtitles through ssa or srt and add a 5pxl overscan on the sides,top, and bottom.


LoadPlugin("C:\DOCUME~1\default\MYDOCU~1\Exes\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\DOCUME~1\default\MYDOCU~1\Exes\DVD2SVCD\INVERS~1\DONALD~1\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\default\My Documents\Exes\VirtualDub\plugins\textsub.vdf")
mpeg2source("C:\DOCUME~1\default\MYDOCU~1\Rips\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
Decimate(5)
TextSub("C:\Documents and Settings\default\My Documents\Rips\sub.ssa")
BicubicResize(470,470,0.333,0.333)
AddBorders(5,5,5,5)


[edit]Forgot to change SimpleResize to BicubicResize in the second one there.

[elcay]

Yo Leon

Good advice is allways wellcome. So i tried your first script and got the same error messages as before. (like my replies to onisama). 480x432 says "no 20/1 framrate" and 480X480 says "no 480X624 framesixe. I don´t dig that.

elcay