Signs (Unecoded) w/Menu Cheat Sheet

[2COOL]

Signs w/Menu (No Bonus Materials and End Credits) Cheat Sheet
Courtesy of 2C:cool::cool:L

PART 1 OF 2

This cheat sheet comes split into two parts as I couldn’t fit it all in one post. Someone let me know if it worked for you.

FINAL PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
Movie with menu intact.
Main menu buttons disabled : Bonus Materials
One English Audio only
One English Subtitle
FBI warnings bypassed
Main Menu intro shortened.
Movie intro bypassed.
End credits taken out.

Tools I used
For ripping movie to harddrive: Smartripper 2.41
For editing the DVD navigations: IfoEdit 0.95
For viewing VOB: DVD2AVI 1.76
For cutting out the end credits: vStrip GUI 0.8f (I got this version a while ago. Might be old but it works)
For burning the final product: ImgTool 0.95 with reallocation of files unchecked.
For viewing the button commands: VOBedit 0.6
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1. Create a folder named “Signs” and three sub-folders named “Files”,“English”, and “No Credits”
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2. Ripped VIDEO_TS.*, VTS_01_* to “Signs”folder
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3. Region Free every IFO and save.
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4. Get VTS Sectors.
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5. Backup all IFOs and BUPs in “Signs” folder to your “Files” subfolder
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NOTE: Any edits we do from now will be in your English Folder unless told otherwise.
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6. In VIDEO_TS.IFO/First Play PGC/PGC Command Table and edit.

OLD > 18.Pre Command (JumpSS VMGM) Jump to VMG PGC: 8 [30 06 00 08 00 c0 00 00 ]
NEW > 18.Pre Command (JumpSS VTSM) Jump to TitleSet(vts): 1, Title(ttn): 1, root-menu [30 06 00 01 01 83 00 00 ]

Translation: Bypass FBI Warnings and the following Touchtone Pictures logo to main menu.
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7. Save VIDEO_TS.IFO
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8. In VTS_01_0.IFO/VTSM_PGCI_UT/PGC-Menu_4/PGC Program Map:, edit

OLD > Cell_1: entry point sector 55 [00000037]
NEW > Cell_1: entry point sector 5817 [000016b7]

Translation: Shorten menu intro so that main menu buttons show immediately.
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9. In VTS_01_0.IFO/VTSM_PGCI_UT/PGC-Menu_6/PGC Command Table:, edit

OLD > 1.Pre Command (SetHL_BTNN) Set Button Nr: (set-val) 4 [56 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 ]
NEW > 1.Pre Command (LinkPGCN) Link PGC 5 [20 04 00 00 00 00 00 05 ]

Translation: Bonus Materials button is disabled.
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10. In VTS_01_0.IFO/VTSM_PGCI_UT/PGC-Menu_19/PGC Command Table:, hexedit

OLD > 1.Pre Command 1.Pre Command Set GPreg<9> mov (set-val)<4> [71 00 00 09 00 04 00 00 ]
NEW > 1.Pre Command Set GPreg<9> mov (set-val)<5> [71 00 00 09 00 05 00 00 ]

OLD > 1.Post Command (LinkPGCN) Link PGC 23 [20 04 00 00 00 00 00 17 ]
NEW > 1.Post Command (JumpSS VMGM) Jump to VMG PGC: 2 [30 06 00 02 00 c0 00 00 ]

Translation: When Play is pressed , THX clip is bypassed and movie will start.
Details: PGC-Menu_19 contained post transition clip before THX clip starts. The post command of PGC-Menu_19 navigated to PGC-Menu_23 so I decided to change the pre-commands 1 and 2 there.
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11. In VTS_01_0.IFO/VTSM_PGCI_UT/PGC-Menu_22/PGC Command Table, edit

OLD > 1.Pre Command (JumpSS VMGM) Jump to VMG PGC: 2 [30 06 00 02 00 c0 00 00 ]
NEW > 1.Pre Command (LinkPGCN) Link PGC 9 [20 04 00 00 00 00 00 09 ]

Translation: THX Optimizer is disabled.
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12. In VTS_01_0.IFO/VTSM_PGCI_UT/PGC-Menu_23/PGC Command Table, hexedit

OLD > 4.Pre Command If GPreg<12> & (cmp-val)<1> then Set GPreg<9> mov (set-val)<3> [71 90 0c 09 00 03 00 01 ]
NEW > 4.Pre Command If GPreg<12> & (cmp-val)<1> then Set GPreg<9> mov (set-val)<5> [71 90 0c 09 00 05 00 01 ]

OLD > 5.Pre Command (LinkPGCN) Link PGC 22 [20 04 00 00 00 00 00 16 ]
NEW > 5.Pre Command (JumpSS VMGM) Jump to VMG PGC: 2 [30 06 00 02 00 c0 00 00 ]

Translation: Corrected “return to film” button in setup menu to bypass THX clip and properly play movie when initially pressed.
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13. In VTS_01_0.IFO/VTS_PGCITI/VTS_PGC_1/Cell Playback section:, edit

OLD > Cell_1: entry point sector 0 [00000000]
NEW > Cell_1: entry point sector 46801 [0000b6d1]

OLD > Cell_2: entry point sector 799 [0000031f]
NEW > Cell_2: entry point sector 46802 [0000b6d2]

Translation: Bypass movie intros and get to beginning of movie.
Details: Cell 3 contains actually entry point sector of movie.

[2COOL]

PART 2 OF 2

Movie is still too big so we’re going to CUT the end credits out and strip out our French audio and subtitle in our next steps. First, we will cut out the credits. I take no credit for this DVD2AVI/vStrip method. I decided to provide this method in a detailed as you can understand it and used it on future projects.

DVD2AVI and vStrip Method on cutting VOBs (Steps 14 to 30)
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14. Open VTS_01_5.vob in your “English” sub-folder with DVD2AVI.
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15. Movie will appear in viewing area. Dragging the bottom slide bar and using the < and > buttons, get to a black part that is just before the credits. When you get that spot you want, press the “]” button located at bottom right. This sets the clip’s end.

Note: Movie credits for this movie doesn’t reside in a cell. It is part of chapter 21 so we couldn’t take it out that easily.
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16.v Save Project to sub-folder “English” as filename “no credits”. After save is done, you will have a D2V and AC3 file present.
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17. Close DVD2AVI.
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18. Open Notepad. With “File of types” dropdown menu set to “All Files (*.*)”, open “no credits.d2v” in your “English” sub-folder.
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19. Find and view this line: Location=0,0,0,3C981. The second zero is your start hex value and the fourth zero is your end hex value.

Note: This is what I got when I did steps 12 to 14.
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20. Open up your Scientific Calculator in Windows and select Hex (hexadecimal) mode.
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21. Input the value 3C981. (from step 19)
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22. Switch to dec (decimal) mode and the value changes to 248193.
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23. Write this number down.
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24. Open vSstrip GUI. There will be three tabs present at top: [1 Input], [2 IFO ], and [3 Output].
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25. In Input tab,

a) press Add and add your VTS_05_0.VOB.
b) In Input Options/Start LBA, enter 0.
c) In End LBA, enter our decimal value of 248193. (from steps 20 - 22)
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26. In Output tab/Output name:, name file as “vstrip” and your destination folder as “English” sub-folder.
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27. Press Run button at the bottom to start processing. You should have a file named vstrip.vob in your “English” sub-folder when done.
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28. Close vStrip GUI
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29. Rename our VTS_01_5.VOB in “English” sub-folder as VTS_01_5.OLD. You can delete if you feel confident.
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30. Rename our file, vstrip.vob, as VTS_01_5.VOB.
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Now you know to cut a movie part out. We will now strip our French stream and at the same time update our VTS_01_0.IFO because of changes in our new VTS_01_5.VOB.

31. Open VTS_01_0.IFO in “English” sub-folder in IFOedit.
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32. Get VTS Sectors
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33. Select VTS_01_0.IFO and press VOB Extras button.
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34. Check …
In Options: Strip Stream’s, Correct VOB-Unit pointers in VOB-Files, and Correct original VOB Files.
In File/Directory paths: AutoCopy Menu-files to destination.
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35. For Destination directory, set it to your sub-folder “No Credits”
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36. Press OK.
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37. Keep only English Audio and subtitle (No French) and ensure “correct IFO tables” checked.
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38. Strip it and wait. You know the procedure.
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39. When done, press OK.
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40. Copy over VIDEO_TS.VOB and VTS_01_0.VOB to “No Credits” sub-folder.
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41. Get VTS Sectors.
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42. Backup our new IFOs to “Files” sub-folder. Just overwrite the originals files.
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NOTE: Any edits we do from now will be in your “No Credits” sub-folder now.
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43. In VTS_01_0.IFO/VTS_PGCITI/VTS_PGC_1/PGC Command table, edit

OLD > 1.Post Command Set GPreg<12> or (set-val)<16> [7a 00 00 0c 00 10 00 00 ]
NEW > 1.Post Command (CallSS VTSM) Call TitleSet root-menu [Resume Cell: 1] [30 08 00 00 01 83 00 00 ]

Also delete Post Commands 2 & 3

Translation: When movie ends, main menu is immediately shown.
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44. In VTS_01_0.IFO/VTSM_PGCI_UT/PGC-Menu_10/PGC Command Table, edit

OLD > 1.Pre Command If GPreg<13> == (cmp-val)<0> then Set GPreg<0> mov (set-val)<1024> [71 a0 0d 00 04 00 00 00 ]
NEW > 1.Pre Command (LinkPGCN) Link PGC 9 [20 04 00 00 00 00 00 09 ]

Translation: Audio options is disabled. We know it’s English only.
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45. Save VTS_01_0.IFO
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Movie is still a tad too big so we need to strip more. I noticed that our VIDEO_TS.VOB was unusually big. After viewing the VOB-Ids, I discovered that this is a copy of our menus like in VTS_01_0.VOB. Hmmm…that must a sign…to delete it. Why did they do that for anyway?

46. Select VIDEO_TS.IFO and press Menu Extras.
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47. Set your Destination directory to our “Files” sub-folder.
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48. Press OK.
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49. Check only “VobId 15” and press strip it. We want to strip this sucker down but not to 0 KB.
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50. Copy over stripped VIDEO_TS.VOB in “files” sub-folder to “No Credits” folder to replace your old one.
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51. Get VTS Sectors
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52. In VTS_01_0.IFO/VTSM_PGCI_UT/PGC-Menu_5/PGC Command Table, edit, add 6 pre-commands by right-clicking on a pre-command and selecting Add PreCommand.six times . Hexedit as follows.

NEW > 5.Pre Command If GPreg<10> == (cmp-val)<2> then (LinkPGCN) Link PGC 9 [20 a4 00 0a 00 02 00 09 ]
NEW > 6.Pre Command If GPreg<9> == (cmp-val)<255><' then Goto line# 8 [00 a1 00 09 00 ff 00 08 ]
NEW > 7.Pre Command If GPreg<9> == (cmp-val)<1><' then Goto line# 10 [00 a1 00 09 00 01 00 0a ]
NEW > 8.Pre Command Set GPreg<9> mov (set-val)<1> [71 00 00 09 00 01 00 00 ]
NEW > 9.Pre Command (LinkPGCN) Link PGC 9 [20 04 00 00 00 00 00 09 ]
NEW > 10.Pre Command Set GPreg<9> mov (set-val)<1> [71 00 00 09 00 01 00 00 ]

Translation: Navigation between Main Menu and Setup Menu is corrected. Also when Root Menu button is pressed during movie, setup menu now shows so you can resume film.
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53. Save VTS_01_0.IFO
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54. Get VTS Sectors
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55. Preview/Test, test, and test.
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56. Burn movie. I successfully burnt with Imgtool 0.95 with reallocation unchecked.

[bobrap]

Everything worked great for me except the size was too large to fit the disc. I might have messed-up something. Great cheat sheets.:)

[phr0ze]

I'm new to all this. I was hoping that when I adjust the Cell entry point IFOedit would cut/strip the unused data for me. That would be really convienient for trimming credits and what not. Well I took the easy way out. I stripped all audio except english, including subtitles. I then stripped ID's 1,2,26,27. Intro credits are missing but not a moment of the movie. Then I adjusted the sectors and its burning as we speak.

Hope I didn't do anything wrong. This is my first DVD ever.

[2COOL]

Originally posted by phr0ze
I'm new to all this. I was hoping that when I adjust the Cell entry point IFOedit would cut/strip the unused data for me. That would be really convienient for trimming credits and what not. Well I took the easy way out. I stripped all audio except english, including subtitles. I then stripped ID's 1,2,26,27. Intro credits are missing but not a moment of the movie. Then I adjusted the sectors and its burning as we speak.

Hope I didn't do anything wrong. This is my first DVD ever.

I knew cell 1 & 2 was part of the intro credits but decided to not do it. I was trying to shrink my movie so that I could get it on a DVD. I can't confirm right now if cell 26 & 27 contained exactly the end credits though.

Just like there are many ways to author a DVD, there are many effective ways to backup your DVD. Let us know what the outcome is. I assume that your chapters might be off.

My main objective of my cheat sheets is to provide people with working examples/guides on how to understand and work the navigations of different DVDs.

[phr0ze]

26 and 27 didn't contain anything really. The end credits are still there. I just stripped the intro which doesn't add anything to the movie. THe movie plays and that was my main goal. I didn't mean to insult you if I did. I think your information for striping this movie and other movies are excellent.

Thanks.

[2COOL]

Originally posted by phr0ze
26 and 27 didn't contain anything really. The end credits are still there. I just stripped the intro which doesn't add anything to the movie. THe movie plays and that was my main goal. I didn't mean to insult you if I did. I think your information for striping this movie and other movies are excellent.

Thanks.

Don't worry about it.:) I'm glad things work out for you. We both achieved our goals. It's a pleasure to learn something that works from other people in this forum.

2C:cool::cool:L

[baddbill]

Hi 2COOL, thanks for another great cheat sheet.

On this movie I decided to split to two dvd's so I could keep the extras. On the second disc I used a jump to title pre command so that the movie will play when the disc is put in a stand alone. My problem is that the thx screen pops up before the movie. Should I try step 10, 12 or both to by pass this screen?

I would try and see what happens but my DVDplay button in ifoedit doesn't work and I don't want to waste another disc.

Thanks,
Bill

[Josh]

Choose the command Jump to Title and choose 1 in the box below it. That does it most of the time.

[Ishnohiwa]

Hello 2COOL,

I hope you don't mind me asking you this, but from your guide(s) I'd like to work on my DVD "Signs" which I'm having problems with at the moment (it keeps showing the menu only on DVD 2, despite the changing of the pre command:(). I'd like to follow your guide, but for that I'd like to know where to obtain the following programs:

"For viewing the button commands: VOBedit 0.6
For burning the final product: ImgTool 0.95 with reallocation of files unchecked. "

Could you tell me where to get these?

Thanks in advance.

Ish

[2COOL]

Originally posted by Ishnohiwa
"For viewing the button commands: VOBedit 0.6
For burning the final product: ImgTool 0.95 with reallocation of files unchecked."

Could you tell me where to get these?

I posted your software page link in your other post. Here the link to your post > http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=298068#post298068.

[scots22]

Hi 2COOL:

Can you please explain to me step 10 - specifically how you found the association of the THX clip with PGC 19? When I first tried removing this clip (without using your guide) I was not able to determine where this clip was located within the first IFO file.

Many thanks for another great guide.

[2COOL]

Originally posted by scots22
Hi 2COOL:

Can you please explain to me step 10 - specifically how you found the association of the THX clip with PGC 19? When I first tried removing this clip (without using your guide) I was not able to determine where this clip was located within the first IFO file.

Many thanks for another great guide. Back then, I viewed all my menus by doubleclicking on them in VTS_01_0.IFO / VTS overview / Menu Language Unit. Now with the help of MenuEdit, you can view them. You can also use DVD Shrink to view your Menus.

[scots22]

I split this movie over 2 discs. Any idea on how I can get the first chapter on the second disc to play upon insert? I've tried your recommended methods 2COOL, but this disc seems a little odd layout-wise.

Thanks for your help!

[2COOL]

Originally posted by scots22
I split this movie over 2 discs. Any idea on how I can get the first chapter on the second disc to play upon insert? I've tried your recommended methods 2COOL, but this disc seems a little odd layout-wise.

Thanks for your help! On your second disk's VIDEO_TS.IFO / VMGM_MAT / First Play PGC. Edit your first jump command, not Set commands, to Jump to Title Nr 1. Right click on line and select Edit Command and then (Jump_TT) Jump to Title.

Are you saying you have tried this without success?

[scots22]

I *believe* I tried that, but I am typing this at work and don't have access to my machine at home. I'll try it again when I get home and reply.

[scots22]

Yep, that's what I did, 2COOL, no luck...

[2COOL]

What happened/played before you edited to jump to Title 1?

[scots22]

I hit play and I get a navigation error.

[SlipGun]

I just tried this method of trimming the end credits for another DVD but could not translate step #43 since it seems to be specific to Signs. Using the original IFOs, the seek bar in PowerDVD is not shortened to reflect the change in running time; and once it reaches the end, PowerDVD crashes instead of returning to the main menu. Could anyone help?

[blutach]

Use VobBlanker - its a lot easier to trim credits that way. To bypass unwanted stuff, PgcEdit is a very easy tool to use.

Regards

[2COOL]

I concur with blutach. VobBlanker wasn't around back then and it's easier to use on this matter now. ;)

OT: BTW blutach, what's the origin of your username?

[blutach]

Mighty big secret!! LMAO

Actually, I drive a blue car and I like the look of the tach when it goes past 7k revs! That's it. Dumb.

And the car is more this color but that looks crappy against the doom9 background.

[SlipGun]

I didn't know VobBlanker could do this. Worked great. :)

Something strange I noticed, though. I cut the movie at 2:00:20 and if I watch all the way through the last chapter, that's exactly where it ends. However, If I just drag the slider towards the end and play the last few seconds, it finishes at ... 1:58:41? It ends where it's supposed to, but the timecode's skewed for some reason. This is in PowerDVD 6.

[blutach]

Yeah, that happens to me too. Don't worry. I don't think Power DVD catches up properly. Happens also when you do a 5 seconds forward by pressing page down (do it repeatedly and see - especially do it ater you've changed the config to say 1 miinute). Its time goes askew.

If you're worried about the final cut, do a mock strip in IfoEdit.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84097

Regards