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Belgabor
27th January 2003, 15:48
Originally posted by oddball
fccHandler will you be implementing the possibilty of using Avisynth filters in Vdub without the use of Avisynth itself? It would be a nice dialog to add so you just point at an Avisynth dll and have a window for typing the command parameters in for that plugin.

Auto concatenate for VOB's would also be nice and the ability to load MPG/MPEG/M2V files without renaming to VOB would be welcomed too.

We have most of that, one way or the other, already in VirtualDubMod. Have a look at our features (shameless plug ;)) and tell us what you need more. fccHandlers mod will find its way into VDubMod sooner or later (I think pulco-citron wanted to add it, dunno what came of it yet).

Edit:
I just saw all this posts about including AviSynth into VirtualDubMod. I say I fail to see the use of it.

oddball
27th January 2003, 21:58
Because filters like Decomb and GreedyHMA are da bomb!

Josip Tosic
27th January 2003, 22:19
If you believe DivXNetworks:
Removed the Intelligent IVTC functionality due to persistent problems caused by lack of variable frame rate file format support. This technology will be back soon in a new form...
So we can expect built-in IVTC in the next release of DivX; I only hope it'll be as good as Decomb.

Belgabor
27th January 2003, 22:25
Originally posted by oddball
Because filters like Decomb and GreedyHMA are da bomb!

Hm, you misunderstood me, why should we put it into vdubmod when we have a perfectly working avisynth?

valnar
28th January 2003, 18:57
I'm not a developer, so forgive what will surely be a stupid question, but is there any reason all the authors of vDub, vDubMod, Nandub and FccHandler's vDub can't integrate their code into the same source?

Robert

sillKotscha
28th January 2003, 20:33
really a stupid question... have a seat, take a beer and reread this forum ;)

VDubMod = VDub + (OGG/M support = Mod) + parts of Nandub (not all of it) + (likely FccHandler's VDub in the near future)

cheers

Sill

oddball
28th January 2003, 20:46
Maybe I have this wrong. But what I was referring to was being able to load the Avisynth plugins like Decomb without using an Avisynth .avs script file. Seeing as this mod load MPEG2 directly then it seems pointless to load a .avs file using the MPEG2 dll in the Avisynth script etc. Maybe I have it wrong and someone can instruct me on how I do this without using a .avs file?

Belgabor
29th January 2003, 00:09
@sillKotscha: well, you missed hellalutof features in your equation, but you're right in priciple ;)

@oddball: I understand your reasoning, my reasoning goes like this: If you need basic vdub functions, open your mpeg2 file directly with vdubmod. If you need advanced features (example being decomb), use avisynth.
As a devel I have to say we simply don't have time for this, especially since there already is a working solution. But if you are a programmer and want to implement it into vdubmod you're welcome to do so ;)

Josip Tosic
29th January 2003, 12:00
First, kudos for considering switching to fccHandler's mod; looks to me like a much "cleaner" solution to the VirtualDub's MPEG-2 "drama".
Any coments on that, Mr. Belgabor? ;)

I understand what oddball is looking for; a decent IVTC in VirtualDub instead of it's 3:2 pulldown, and preferably something that'd work in "Fast recompress" mode.

I also understand that it'd be a bitch to implement and that it's questionable in the light of DivXNetworks' promise to implement an intelligent IVTC in the next release but still... a man can dream, can't he? ;)
Anyway, my dream is that one day I can open VOB's directly in VirtualDubMod and convert them to DivX in "Fast recompress" mode. It works that way for PAL movies but Yanks will just have to wait, I guess. :)

outlyer
29th January 2003, 13:18
Originally posted by Josip Tosic
... and that it's questionable in the light of DivXNetworks' promise to implement an intelligent IVTC in the next release but still...
Not so questionable, at least not by this reason; what about people using other codecs? ;)

Cyberhof
29th January 2003, 13:45
Hi I installed virtualdub 1.4.13 and then I put the virtualdub 1.4.13 with mpeg2 and ac3 support in that dir but I can't get it to work.
Tryed opening a divx file with ac3 sound and I could'nt play it or convert the audio.
Is there something else I need to do?:confused:
Thank's in advance!

Josip Tosic
29th January 2003, 17:18
Originally posted by outlyer
Not so questionable, at least not by this reason; what about people using other codecs? ;)
What other codecs? [Runs away before XviD mob gets him.] :D

Yah, yah, I know, I know, I've thought of it but was to lazy to write anything as it's SEP. :D

Originally posted by Cyberhof
Hi I installed virtualdub 1.4.13 and then I put the virtualdub 1.4.13 with mpeg2 and ac3 support in that dir but I can't get it to work.
Tryed opening a divx file with ac3 sound and I could'nt play it or convert the audio.
Is there something else I need to do? :confused:
Thank's in advance!
Get VirtualDubMod. fccHandler's mod opens AC-3 only in MPEG-2 streams - you can still open it (and save AC-3 track with "Save WAV" fetaure) but you cannot hear the audio stream.

Belgabor
29th January 2003, 17:40
Originally posted by Josip Tosic
Anyway, my dream is that one day I can open VOB's directly in VirtualDubMod and convert them to DivX in "Fast recompress" mode. It works that way for PAL movies but Yanks will just have to wait, I guess. :)

The point is, that already (kinda) works.

get nics mpeg2 decoder for avisynth
modify the respective template to include decomb
open your vob with 'Open via AviSynth'
voila, here you go :p


I get the impression some people tend to forget about certain VDubMod features which can be very powerful if used right ;)

fccHandler
29th January 2003, 20:50
Originally posted by Cyberhof
Tryed opening a divx file with ac3 sound and I could'nt play it or convert the audio.
My AC3 support is part of the MPEG parser, meaning that VirtualDub doesn't use it for AC3 in an AVI file. I guess for that you'll need a separate ACM AC3 codec.

Cyberhof
30th January 2003, 15:49
Thanks Josip Tosic and fccHandler for your fast replys!
I'll do it the old way (with BeSweet instead). :D

Btw. still a nice modification on good old virtual dub!

Tabriz
30th January 2003, 20:35
I recently installed the above and ran it using 3 vob files joined with "file Merger". Absolutely no problem with this PAL large VOB. Tried frameserving into CCE with excellant results.

Next I ripped an 2xSVCDs with "isobuster" and joined the two mpeg files with file merger. Again these were read by virtual dub and were frameserved to CCE. These latter files were NTSC and frame rate was reduced by the program to 23.9 fps. After encoding I used "pulldown.exe" to recover the 29 fps. No problems encountered.

I did find it advisable to install Virtual Dub 13 first and the install the mpeg2 version. I then deleted virtual dub.exe and created a shortcut to virtual dub mpeg2.exe.

best regards
Tabriz

Petzku
4th February 2003, 19:20
Originally posted by movmasty

i just tryed it and worked fine, directly from dvd to divx,
9 fps with heavy filtering on a xp1800 at 768x416 res

ok, the movie was easy, not interlaced ,woody allen's piking up the pieces,
also audio syncro was ok [/B]

Why did you scale the picture up? over 720*576/480.

DDogg
24th February 2003, 09:33
I'm know I am late to this party, but justed wanted to say thanks to fccHandler. Due to a comment bb made I picked up on this version and directly opened without problem my ProCorder rendered mpeg-2 files. VdubMod, which I thought had merged your work, could not open them, so I had given up on that some time ago. Anyway, thanks for the work. It is a great mod.

DD