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toolman2k
11th January 2003, 11:44
hi all,

i noticed that on some movies, the cce transcoded m2v has flickering at the bottom, caused by a horizontal black line in like the 2nd or 3rd line from the bottom, just like text in a menu flickers when u forgot to antialaise it.

the line is not the whole length of the screen, its like 3/4 of the total image, starting from the left, so basically it sorta cuts the video there, going through the picture.

i just noticed it isnt present throughout whole movie, just the first few chapters......


my set up:

cce 2.50
avs through avisynth
re authored with scenarist

anybody knows how this can be? it is kinda annoying cause it flickers really bad in brighter scenes....

thanks.

auenf
11th January 2003, 14:39
if possible, provide a pic, but a first guess would be a result of the incorrect field order setting with CCE.

Enf...

toolman2k
11th January 2003, 15:43
Originally posted by auenf
if possible, provide a pic, but a first guess would be a result of the incorrect field order setting with CCE.

Enf...


field setting ? how can that be? i checked the original video which was topfield first, so i set that in CCE also.....and it only is in the first few chapters...not whole movie.

heres a full picture.....

http://home.planet.nl/~kost0112/full.jpg

and a detail of it...

http://home.planet.nl/~kost0112/detail.jpg

btw. after new inspection, it seem it is across whole length after all.....not just 3/4....

auenf
11th January 2003, 16:10
CCE handles the field setting 'differently', try it with the setting the other way and see if it helps.

Enf...

toolman2k
11th January 2003, 19:59
Originally posted by auenf
CCE handles the field setting 'differently', try it with the setting the other way and see if it helps.

Enf...


weird but you are right....if i change the topfield setting its ok!

but how can that be ? how does CCE handle it then ? im curious about that......

how can it be that its only in the first few chapters ?

if i change the setting, doesnt that make all chapter BUT the first few flickering ?

how can i be sure that it encodes the whole movie correctly then ? imean this is weird...does the movie have different field settings per chapter ?

Boulder
12th January 2003, 19:34
It is essential that you disable 'upper field first' as CCE encodes upper field first anyway. This is a known bug with CCE v2.50.

toolman2k
12th January 2003, 20:21
Originally posted by Boulder
It is essential that you disable 'upper field first' as CCE encodes upper field first anyway. This is a known bug with CCE v2.50.


really?? i have 2.50.01.00 .. i never heard of that bug, nor did i ever see it mentioned in guides or such. how do you know this ?

Boulder
12th January 2003, 22:04
This has been explained for example in the FitCD docs and I believe it's also been discussed in the DVD2SVCD forums. If you want your CCE encoded movie to be 'bottom field first' (presuming the original is that way) , you'll have to do a simple trick with ReStream. If you want some extra information, I'm sure you'll find it via the search.

For example, this thread gives some more information:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35940&highlight=cce+AND+upper+AND+field+AND+first