Is there a need for YV12 2D Cleaner?

[Dali Lama]

Hi all,

I have been using Kiraru's AVISynth 2.5 compatable port of Jim Casaburi's 2D Cleaner filter. I like it very much, but am concerned that it only supports YUY2 input.

So this is a little confusing for me. Isn't the point of AVISynth 2.5 to conserve the YV12 colorspace?

Also, I have noticed more life-like colors with the preservation of YV12, which I think is its biggest benefit. Speed is always helpful though.

So going back to my title, is there a need for a YV12 input in 2D Cleaner? Does anyone else use it alot? I think its most helpful on anime/cartoon sources though. Maybe I'll try to e-mail Kiraru after I ask my Japanese friends to translate for me ;)

Sincerely,

Dali

[HarryM]

Originally posted by Dali Lama
Hi all,

I have been using Kiraru's AVISynth 2.5 compatable port of Jim Casaburi's 2D Cleaner filter. I like it very much, but am concerned that it only supports YUY2 input.

So this is a little confusing for me. Isn't the point of AVISynth 2.5 to conserve the YV12 colorspace?

Also, I have noticed more life-like colors with the preservation of YV12, which I think is its biggest benefit. Speed is always helpful though.

So going back to my title, is there a need for a YV12 input in 2D Cleaner? Does anyone else use it alot? I think its most helpful on anime/cartoon sources though. Maybe I'll try to e-mail Kiraru after I ask my Japanese friends to translate for me ;)

Sincerely,

Dali

Hmmm, spatial filter is spatial filter. Sh0dan (possibly) prepare YV12 modification of built-in SpatialSoften(). You can use Convolution3D with anime matrix too (maybe with/out temporal threshold).

Is 2D Cleaner too much better than those filters?

[Wilbert]

So this is a little confusing for me. Isn't the point of AVISynth 2.5 to conserve the YV12 colorspace?
The point is the *possibility* of conserving YV12 colorspace.

So going back to my title, is there a need for a YV12 input in 2D Cleaner? Does anyone else use it alot? I think its most helpful on anime/cartoon sources though. Maybe I'll try to e-mail Kiraru after I ask my Japanese friends to translate for me.

I know that people use 2d_cleaner, so good lucking convincing Kiraru!

[wotef]

marc fd's deen filter has two 2D modes built-in (a2d,m2d) that can achieve results very similar to 2d cleaner, if that's what you want

try deen("a2d",4,9,0,0)

[scmccarthy]

So this is a little confusing for me. Isn't the point of AVISynth 2.5 to conserve the YV12 colorspace? The point is the *possibility* of conserving YV12 colorspace.
That's right, we've just added a colorspace that is commonly found in a lot (not all) of sources. People still need to work in the other two color spaces and will need filters for the other colorspaces while using AviSynth 2.5. I'm not sure that every filter should ideally be able to work in YV12 for AviSynth 2.5.

Stephen

[Dali Lama]

Thank you all for the replies. It makes sense to have other colorspaces in AVISynth 2.5.

As far as options to 2D Cleaner, yes I have tried MarcFD's deen and Convolution3D. I have to say that so far, none of them reproduce the spatial filtering of 2D Cleaner, but I don't know why. Actually I use C3D in conjuction with 2D Cleaner. I will try deen("a2d",4,9,0,0) though.

But also, have you noticed better/more accurate color preservation staying in YV12?

Take Care,

Dali

P.S Does anyone have contact (email) with Kiraru?

[digitize]

hmmm, i have used Convolution3D and found that it gives great results. But i wasn't trying 2.5 / yv12 color space, im using yuy2. Reason being that huffyuv doesn't have yv12 yet (or at least i don't think it does, I know -h was trying to code it, pretty sure he never released, please tell me otherwise). But anyway, convo3d produced good results on a raw (anime) with a good bit of noise.

[jarthel]

I like 2dcleaner more than c3d or SSHiQ.

jayel

[jrmillerUT]

Dali Lama... i too use the 2d cleaner by casaburi... i've been experimenting with deen all night but haven't tried that setting there... (anime) and yes i can't get the same results as with casaburi's filter... i HOPE it eventually will take yv12...

[vmesquita]

You can use this to translate from Japanese to english, works very well:

http://babel.altavista.com

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Vmesquita

[SILICON]

I translated the documentation of 2D Cleaner from Japanese to english with http://babel.altavista.com but i`m confusing.

Can you give the settings for high quality anime/cartoons (DVD rip)

EDIT:
For yuv12 support see http://members.tripod.co.jp/xeon533/

[bill_baroud]

!!!!
\o/
that's a great news SILICON !!!

i'll test this evening :D
i was so depressed with the yuy2 only version ;_;


btw, i would not recommend the use of 2DCleaner on HQ anime (recent dvd source) it's way too destructive (filtering is bad moo moo ;) )




damn ... the readme is the same as the old YUY2 :/

[Defiler]

Ooh.. SMP version? I'll have to play with that. Heh.