Kiss DP-450 Divx player - Anyone got it???

[looneypnoy]

I've heard about it, I've read about it, but nothing more! Does anyone know anything else about this??? Like the price, the availability, the performance...I've e-mailed the company from the address on the website, but still no response...can anyone help on some info? Thanks!:confused:

[The Edge]

Welcome to the forum.
http://www.mm-vision.dk/dvd.asp?action=vis&varenr=9333&gruppe=dvdplayer

Use babbelfish (http://world.altavista.com/) to translate.
It only supports ISO-MPEG4–Advanced, Simple Profile upto 3 Mbit/s.

Edge

[looneypnoy]

Thanks Edge:D Does anyone know how much it costs?

[The Edge]

Oh, the price.
Price:£274.99 (http://www.jag-tec.com/site/ViewProduct.asp?ID=1406)

FAQ from their site.
Q: What video codecs are supported by KiSS DP-450 ?

A: All video codecs that comply with the specifications of ISO-MPEG4 – Advanced, Simple Profile, are supported by the DP-450. DivX 4.x and 5.x comply with this standard, exept DivX 5.02 features- GMC (Global Motion Compensation) and QP (Quarter Pexel) which are Advanced, Advanced Profile features.

Xvid 2.10 and Sigma's RPM4(RealMagic MPEG4) also complies with the supported standard.

Q: I’d like to know if your DVD player DP 450 is region free and/or macrovision free ?

A: No, most certainly not. KiSS DVD-Players are not without Macrovision protection and are always region locked to a specific region. KiSS Technology A/S

Q: DP-450 is able to play DivX 4.x and 5.x, but what will happen when a new version of DivX is released? Is it possible to upgrade the software to support newer codecs ?

A: If a newer DivX codec is released, e.g. DivX 6.x, DP-450 will be able to play it if the codec is ISO-MPEG4 – Advanced, Simple Profile compliant. A codec needs to be made from the principles and specifications of ISO-MPEG4 Advanced, Simple Profile to function properly on the DP-450.

Q: What recordable media’s are supported by KiSS DP-450 ?

A: CD-R (74 min + 80 min), CD-RW (74 min + 80 min), DVD-R , DVD-RW are supported by DP-450. This means that DVD+R and DVD+RW are not supported.

Q: Where can I get more detailed information about the player. I've already downloaded your PDF file, but it doesn't tell much ?

A: You will for now be able to get much more detailed information by reading this FAQ. You can also get extensive information by visiting http://www.kissdvd.com

Q: Does your player fully support SVCD movies (mainly subtitles)? What kind of subtitles does it supports in DivX files? Is it upgradable?

A: The initial release of DP-450 will not support any subtitles on either SVCD or DivX. This feature will most likely be implemented in a later software release for the player.

Q: The "Repeat Playback" function - will it allow a DVD, JPEG CD, etc. to repeatedly replay?

A: There are features on the DP-450 which enables Repeat mode on all of the above content.

Q: Is it possible to FF / FR (Fast Forward / Fast Reverse) through DivX films ?

A: No, but we have implemented a timesearch function, which allows you to jump to a specific place in the film.

Q: In JPEG mode can it show the pictures in full screen mode ?

A: Yes, it does that automatically and digital zoom function is also available with JPEG’s.

Q: Does DP450 also support Mp3PRO?

A: No, MP3Pro is at this time not supported by DP-450.

Q: How do the discs have to be recorded for the player to play ?

A: All DivX and MP3 content should just be burned as a standard ISO9660 Data CD. (Closed Disc)

Q: Does DP-450 play DivX with MP3 audio?

A: Yes it does.

Q: Does DP-450 play media’s with multiple video / audio files ?

A: Yes it does. This also goes for multiple DivX files on DVD-R and DVD-RW. Remember not to mix different kinds of files though. Use only one type of file per disc.

Q: What dimensions does it play? like screens of 350 X 240, 720 X 640, etc ?

A: DP450 plays resolution up to PAL and NTSC standards upto 3 Mbit/s.

Q: Does DP-450 support MP3’s with variable bitrate?

A: Yes, VBR MP3 is now supported.

Q: Which video outputs supports progressive scan ?

A: Component Scart (YpbPr) supports Progressive Scan in resolutions up NTSC standard.

Q: Is it possible to upgrade DP-450 software ?

A: Yes, software updates will be released on a regular basis on our website. Updates will contain latest Bug-fixes and possibly extra features.

Q: Does DP-450 have a built-in AC3 decoder ?

A: Yes, for AC3 to stereo downmix

Q: Does DP-450 support ID3 tags ?

A: Yes.

Q: How do I know what codec my films are encoded in.

A: Use the setup button to display the version of DivX the film has been encoded with.

Q: Is it possible to Fast Forward and Fast Reverse MP3 files ?

A: No, but it will be implemented in a later release.

Q: How do I make the update CD-R with newer firmware to update my DP-450 ?

A: You need burning software thats supports .ISO files. This could be Nero Burning ROM v5.5+ or Easy CD Creator v4.0+. When burning the image please make sure that the option "Disc at Once" is set and ensure that the disc is closed after writing. Please refer to your burning software manual on this matter. Follow the standard guidelines for making an .ISO recording. More help can be found on:

http://www.roxio.com
http://www.nero.com

Q: Which video file extensions are supported by the player ?

A: .MPG, .MPEG, .AVI, .VOB

Q: Which audio file extensions are supported by the player ?

A: .mp3 .ogg and soon .wav

Edge

[looneypnoy]

Thanks again, but i don't know if i'm just missing it, but i can't find the price up on there?

[The Edge]

Price:£274.99 (sterling)

Edge

[looneypnoy]

Dude, i'm retarded...my bad, i didn't see that up there...thanks again BTW..

[trex-uk]

its now £245-00 at scan
http://www.scan.co.uk

[looneypnoy]

hey how do you convert that to American??

[trex-uk]

does anyone know if there is a region hack for this machine that is a big downside to it

[wing1]

the rate of sterling to dollar is approximately 1 to 2. so figure 500+ for that player :D

now the question is where to buy it in the US? or is it available in the US?

[looneypnoy]

oh damn! i didn't know it'd be that bad...that's kinda pricy...

[bbq@KL]

350 bucks
http://www.jvb.nl/jvb.asp?cur=2&section=dvdplayers&page=title&title=130

Free ground shipping within the U.S. on orders above $150

[BoNz1]

Originally posted by wing1
now the question is where to buy it in the US? or is it available in the US? [/B]

Ah, I think that you might be interested in this http://forums.divx.com/viewtopic.php?topic=45175&forum=5 apparently they are working on a version for the US so sit tight.

[looneypnoy]

you know, i never understood the region stuff, that's like PAL and NTSC right? could someone help explain that to me? thanks!

[The Edge]

Ok, region first.
Have a look here. (http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#1.10)

PAL, NTSC, Secam, etc....
Have a look here. (http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#1.19)

I found this on the first search result in google when I typed "dvd region codes".
I suggest you give it a try sometime. Very useful;)

Edge

[looneypnoy]

good info, thanks again...

[Navellint]

hi,
In the Netherlands the KISS player is apparently sold as 'Revoy' (www.revoy.nl)

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40873

I guess I posted in the wrong forum, or is this section newer than Dec 19 ?

region free (hijacker.rpc1.org/kiss/) solution
edit: region free (forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43732) thread

[mazzo]

I've seen somewhere that this player doesn't support the pro features in DivX 5.x pro. Does that mean that it CAN'T play files encoded with the pro features, or merely that it just IGNORES these features?

[The Edge]

@mazzo
The first FAQ posted above.

Q: What video codecs are supported by KiSS DP-450 ?

A: All video codecs that comply with the specifications of ISO-MPEG4 – Advanced, Simple Profile, are supported by the DP-450. DivX 4.x and 5.x comply with this standard, exept DivX 5.02 features- GMC (Global Motion Compensation) and QP (Quarter Pexel) which are Advanced, Advanced Profile features.

So just B-Frames at the moment.

Edge

[Navellint]

hi,
wouldn't it be more accurate to ask what features/codec the current firmware (2.6) supports, not player? Or am i naive to think future firmware will solve some of the issues caused by DivX 5.x advanced features?

[JimmyBarnes]

Originally posted by Navellint
hi,
wouldn't it be more accurate to ask what features/codec the current firmware (2.6) supports, not player? Or am i naive to think future firmware will solve some of the issues caused by DivX 5.x advanced features?

Tom's Hardware Guide seems to think so:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/20030124/kiss_dp450-07.html

"The player works best with the version 5.x DivX codec (Advanced Simple Profile Level 5). The only limitations with DivX 5.x are that expanded encoding features like "quarter pixel" or "GMC" are not supported. In the test, little image jumps were visible in highly complex scenes. However, this comment refers to the firmware version 2.6, so this problem should be gone in future versions."

Maybe this gives hope that some talented person will release an update which will make DivX3.11a video viewable on the DP-450.

JB