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spankey
2nd January 2003, 16:09
I am in the process of ripping the soprano's episodes off dvd to svcd. I found that when I encode 16:9 anamorphic with no borders added, my standalone dvd player and my 32 inch tv, I see pixelation and ghosting. Now I tried to rip it as 16:9 borders added encoded as 4:3, I then get a nearly perfect picture for the tv. Yeah its cut top and bottom but it looks great hardly any pixelation nor ghosting as with the 16:9 anamorphic.

Heres my issue or dilema.

Does encoding in 16:9 (borders added as 4:3) increase the file size? Finished mpeg that is. I seem to be getting two mpegs and when I ripped the same episode as 16:9 anamorphic I only got one mpeg? Does adding the borders add more size to the file? Mind you I changed nothing in the birate tabs as well. I encode to 80 min cdr's and I can fit one episode of 16:9 anamorphic at 60 minutes on one disk. How can I fit 60 minutes of borders added encoded at 4:3 to one disk? Can I change some settings in dvd2svcd like the audio, maybee lower that a tad. I don't mind having to turn it up vs better picture quality and having the luxury of one disk per episode...

Thanks for the help, below is my log.

Spanky

WNASPI32.DLL 0.0.0.0
Key found: D9028B01FE
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- 1/1/2003 8:20:55 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.0 build 1a
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 1/1/2003 8:21:03 PM
- Free on drive C: 42271.38 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
- E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
- E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob
- E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_8.vob

Ripping: E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
Ripping: E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob
Ripping: E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_8.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 5999

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- 1/1/2003 8:26:11 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_1.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_2.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_3.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film activated!
Framerate: 23976
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 1/1/2003 8:27:52 PM
- Free on drive C: 40490.13 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -67 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 1/1/2003 8:30:16 PM
- Free on drive C: 40344.32 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -ota( -d -67 ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 1/1/2003 8:40:04 PM
- Free on drive C: 40295.71 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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- Encoding C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 833934864
AudioSectors: 51734564
VideoPAPO: 12116700
ScanOffsetBytes: 68731
SeqAligningBytes: 4368250
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1.00
PureMPEGStream: 765646615.20
Seconds: 3190.19
CalcMPEGStream: 765646615.20
Frames: 76368
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 795.00
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\DVD Ripping software\TMPGEnc Updated 2.57 PLUS version\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

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- 1/2/2003 12:52:48 AM
- Free on drive C: 39395.27 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 1/2/2003 12:52:56 AM
- Free on drive C: 39395.27 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 1/2/2003 12:53:03 AM
- Free on drive C: 39395.27 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 1/2/2003 12:53:11 AM
- Free on drive C: 39395.26 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 1/2/2003 12:59:12 AM
- Free on drive C: 38428.51 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2588.928 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
593.928 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 1/2/2003 1:00:23 AM
- Free on drive C: 38428.50 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 6

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBU~1.XML"
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- 1/2/2003 1:03:38 AM
- Free on drive C: 37622.89 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 2

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBU~2.XML"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 1/2/2003 1:04:17 AM
- Free on drive C: 37447.40 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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Shutdown in 75 seconds

UltimateDBZ
4th January 2003, 00:18
I don't know if it increases the filesize or not for sure, but if it does, it would be very little. Black is _very_ low bitrate.

chainsaw135
4th January 2003, 00:22
In the bitrate tab change all the "use" boxes to 1.