SVCD to DVD

[Emmaxxx]

Hello there, I'm new to the forum and would very much appreciate some help..

I've been using DVD2SVCD for awhile now and have quite a collection of movies on CDR
Having just purchased a Pioneer 105, I've now made the switch to DVD-R and have burned a couple of movies successfully, still using DVD2SVCD then authoring with SpruceUP....not bad hey....for a blonde!
However, I would now like to convert some of my fravourite SVCD's (spanning 2 or 3 discs)onto DVD.
How is this best achieved?

Thanxxx
Emma

[ux-3]

By searching and reading the existing posts on this topic.

[Emmaxxx]

Sorry, I'm new to the forum.
I've spent about 30mins looking to no avail.
Existing posts...where?

[ammck55]

Emmaxxx:

My advice would be to figure out exactly what it is you want to accomplish, formulate a keyword from this, and enter that keyword in the search function. If you don't get any hits that answer your questions, try another keyword.....and another. The search button is powerful here, and will bring back a wide spectrum of information to choose from. I'd suggest starting in the Basic Topics forum.

I wish you better luck than I've had, but I have never been able to search for information, process that information, and then turn it into tangible results in less than 30 minutes. Ain't gonna happen. Good luck!

ammck55

[ux-3]

What's the name of the program you use and what do you want to do (see your title)...
Use that SINGLE term in a search. It is a start.

[Emmaxxx]

Thanxxx for the advice...
I came across a SVCD on DVD-r's tutorial which explains everything nicely, BUT having checked the merged Mpeg files after running TMPG, there is an overlap problem. I originally encoded to SVCD using SVCD2DVD/CCE and set a 3 second overlap.
How can I make a perfect join?

Thanxxx
emma

[Emmaxxx]

Been toying around with TMPG\Merge&Cut and after trial and error, finally merged 3 mpgs (Black Hawk Down)successfully with no sync errors.
Then after running the merged file through 'DVD patcher' the resulting mpeg was then braking up\pixelated at one edge when played through Power DVD.
Perhaps i got the settings wrong? 352 x576(pal). 'Entire File' was checked.
I did notice when I first loaded the file, the horizontal was set at 352 anyway and I originally encoded the file to 4:3 ratio...should this have been changed to 16:9 before patching?

Thanxxx
Emma

[Emmaxxx]

Progressed a little further...
managed to patch to a valid dimension and then back to 480, now will load successfully into Authoring prog.
I used AC3 machine to transcode the mp2 audio file but pops and crackles can be heard during playback??

Where do I go from here?

Thanxxx
Emma

[ux-3]

Originally posted by Emmaxxx
Where do I go from here?

If you value your time, you go to the vault and take out your original again... Most efficient in all regards...

[Emmaxxx]

And maybe hiring out the other 15 or so films.....perhaps you would like to make a financial contribution? Cause you've been no help so far!!

[ammck55]

Frustrating, isn't it? I have several places where the hair is just starting to come back. But even when you get to that stage, try to be cool. ux-3 has helped you, he gave you the search word, and also gave solid advice on the time/gain ratio. He's an old hand here and does not issue advice frivolously, and I, for one, would hope that he would help me when I need it. I think you misunderstood his advice as an attack, which it wasn't, it was merely.......good advice.

ammck55

[chainsaw135]

Originally posted by Emmaxxx
And maybe hiring out the other 15 or so films.....perhaps you would like to make a financial contribution? Cause you've been no help so far!!

WOW some people i swear.

First off read the forum rules again specially rule 4), you will not talk down to users in this forum. If you dont like the answers you have been givin, then you can take your happy self and go some where else. Ux-3 and others have given alot of time answering people in this forum helping this forum run smooth and i wont allow you to trash talk with them concider this a warning, as the next time you will get a strike for rule 4).

[ux-3]

Originally posted by Emmaxxx
Perhaps you would like to make a financial contribution.

Just answer yourself these questions:

How much time can you save by starting from your DVD again? What is minimum income in your part of the world? How much does that saved time cost? How much does it cost to open the vault?

[ArdenDag]

[EDITED BECAUSE MATERIAL IT RESPONDED TO NO LONGER EXISTS] <--- :)

Emmaxxx, you could have some more than 30 minutes of searching to find everything you needed, and ux-3, some people would rather go with what they have, even if it takes longer. Especially since a lot of the work is done asleep (atleast for me) and some people can't compare the 'time spent' to 'minimum wage' since you can't go to work when you would normally have 'off time'. Your analogy is quite demeaning, and I, for one, didn't appreciate it.

[ammck55]

Umm... are we condoning burning copies of DVDs you don't own to SVCD format? Tisk tisk... I thought that was frowned upon (and also against the forum rules that have been spit out here... EDIT: somewhat, it's similar to getting something for free, which is what you're doing)

@ArdenDag--We get a lot of things for free here at Doom9. Free help, free sharing of ideas and tecniques, some awsome free software tools, and the freedom to share a sense of fraternal bonding. What's not free is the privilege to indiscriminately attack fellow members for either a real or perceived wrong. I seriously doubt that the forum rules were "spit out", but since the typed word is a poor vehicle for conveying meaning, maybe I'm misunderstanding you here.

ammck55

[ux-3]

Originally posted by ArdenDag
I must be missing something here....

You (ux-3) said 'rent the movie again'...

...and ux-3, some people would rather go with what they have, even if it takes longer. Especially since a lot of the work is done asleep (atleast for me) and some people can't compare the 'time spent' to 'minimum wage' since you can't go to work when you would normally have 'off time'. Your analogy is quite demeaning, and I, for one, didn't appreciate it.

Your first point is taken and edited above. You were right: I was frivolously assuming that emma didn't have the originals available to herself anymore and was hence trying to use her unlawful copies. That was very assumptous of me, and I ask everyone involved to forgive me. I have corrected my advice accordingly. She surely has those stored away safely in her vault, and is just worried that exposure to light and oxygen may shorten their archival life...

On your second point, I have strong doubts that emma was able to join overlapping mpgs being asleep, and she also won't be able to solve the "pops and cracks" issue while taking a nap. As a side point, most people who afford a DVD burner do not make as little as minimum... Also I am not making an analogy. I just ask her to value her time. If it is of so little value that she is willing to waste it like that, thats up to her. She asked where to go, and I gave her my advice. From the circumstances which emma presents, if I'd be her, I'd even rather flip burgers for an evening and pay for the vault access, instead of spending nights to accomplish frustratingly poor results to burn to my new dvd burner.

If you don't like my view, thats fine with me.

[ArdenDag]

I see your point on the second thing I responded to... I wasn't thinking clearly about the fact that to join the MPEG-2 files you actually have to attempt to join them without getting asynch audio and video, getting the 'errors' of pops and hisses, etc etc... those all involve joining, testing, joining, testing, etc... That definitely can't be done without user interaction...

[Emmaxxx]

I hardly consider the advice of being told I'm wasting my time, or words to that affect and to hire out the originals again as being helpful, Thanks all the same! So then what should we tell the very nice guy who used his valued time to write the tutorial (SVCD to DVDR)?

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Originally posted by ux - 3
Just answer yourself these questions:

How much time can you save by starting from your DVD again?
What is minimum income in your part of the world?
How much does that saved time cost? How much does it cost to open the vault?
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Answer:
Not that I should tell you my business, but if you really want to know
1.How much time can I save? Very inconvenient to take a trip by bus into town with two toddlers and being 24 weeks pregnant is not advisable with the current icy weather conditions.
2. What is the minimum income? Unemployed on benefits.
3. Cost of opening the vault? Absolute sacrilege spending unnecessary money, being on a tight budget, £3 for the cost of re hiring would buy things for my kids.

I'm not here to break any of your rules, and I'm sorry if you took offence by my view.

[ux-3]

Can't help but wonder, why you would want to move the stuff to DVD instead of leaving it, at the same quality, on the existing SVCD. What could be gained, when money is this tight? The quality won't get any better than it is already. The cost for DVD-R will rival the rent. Can't follow your logic, but it is entirely your life. You asked for advice, and I gave you what I considered the most sensible solution. I still don't see what you try to accomplish, which you don't have for free already.

My observation from my own kids is that my time does them more good then my money...so with the new info and knowing how time consuming this business gets, I can only emphasise my previous point.

But since you don't want to take that advice, thats fine with me. I am not affected. But just as a small reminder... This is not your private hotline, but many more are reading this and will reference it in the future. So even if you don't like my offered solution to the problem, others may see the matter a little different and may take up that advice once they found the article. So really, I am not just talking to you and your problem but to many other users, who somehow get here. Don't take it too personal.

To the DVD-R conversion guy we say this... THANKS for giving us an option. And if we joined or read the thread "encoding for the future", we were all set to use his recipe (hopefully) without much waste of time if it were our desire. I personally will only take that route if SVCD is no longer an available feature and my capable DVD-Player dies. Perhaps you have not heard a true 5.1 audio system. Once you do, you might think about the vault differently... It is far superior even to DS2 encodes...

oh, PS: I have not taken offense...why should I?

[Emmaxxx]

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Originally posted by ux 3

I can’t help but wonder why you would want to move the stuff to DVD instead of leaving it, at the same quality.
I still don't see what you try to accomplish, which you don't have for free already.
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Well, thank you so much for your philosophy of life of how I should be spending my money and time. Perhaps I should give this all up and take your advice and go and flip those burgers in the kitchen.
I can appreciate your time for someone who is so knowledgeable in this forum, which is clearly evident by your supporters. You yourself must spend quite sometime here, after all, spending 30 minutes searching for information, processing that information, and then turning it into tangible results in less than 30 minutes. Ain't gonna happen.
But the difference is, I haven’t questioned your valued time.

As regards what I’m trying to accomplish then refer to my original post. I didn’t think for one second the quality would be any better, that is not an issue. My thought here being as you’re wondering, is to make the conversion and then pass on the SVCD’s or even the DVD’s to friends and family, I’m thoughtful that way! Need I continue to explain myself?

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Originally posted by ux 3

This is not your private hotline, but many more are reading this and will reference it in the future.
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Well, for those people who do come across this thread for the purpose of figuring how to convert SVCD to DVD will unfortunately being wasting their time. But then saying that, because I have a little hands on experience now, I would be only to glad to help.
Here’s a link to the tutorial (it may save someone 30 minutes looking for it)



Oops!! The link seems to be temporarily disconnected :D
We’ll have to come back to this one.

Can I hear sizzling from the kitchen? Must dash!!
Take care
Emma

[ux-3]

Do whatever you please... as I said: Your life, your time.

[chainsaw135]

Thread closed, getting way off topic.