Bad Burns - Has This Happened To You ?

[MR2]

Hi all,

Can anyone shed some light on my problem ?

I've just bought some Bulkpaq Gen4 2X discs and all but one have failed when burned. I'm using a 105 F/W v1.0 and Nero 5.5.10.0, the written surface has a milky white look to it which fades at the outer edge.

At first I thought it was the discs but as I said all but one failed, the one that worked was done in my 104 and came out fine.

Other people have reported a similar problem but no one has ever come up with an answer.

Any ideas ?

Thanx..

[klona]

I did not get any sample of the Gen4 yet, but I would bet it's better to burn @X1, even X2 advertised...
Use DVDSpeed to have some mor einformation about the burn quality on this media.

[MR2]

Sorry I forgot to mention that it also happened to some Superior Gen4 so I don't think it's a problem with Bulkpaq.

[gooki]

Could be a bad ide cable.

[Srooibok]

Had exactly the same problem with 3 discs out of a pack of 25, very strange got like a milky hue to them. The other 14 I've used so far have burnt no sweat although my Ps2 hates them and I've had problems in my Dansai 852 towards the end of some discs! Think I'll stick with Datasafe not had one coaster although burning at X1 is a pain!

'S'

[guido06]

Yep, I have been having this problem randomly with my 105 burner as well. I am using Princos which work just fine in my 103 drive. I am hoping a new firmware will remedy this problem.

[sarahjh69]

pioneer are still playing firmware games

the firmwares for the 105 are designed to make
faulty burns with cheap media (cos they don't
give pioneer a cut of their profits)

get a 104 with fw 1.31 or gradius hacked fw
or buy media pioneer approve of for your 105

[MR2]

I can't understand why other people are using Bulkpaq Gen4 2X in a 105 and say they work perfectly when mine all failed.

[alexnoe]

You can't understand it? Really not?

It's pretty easy: I think you haven't understood what crap media is:

These are discs where the manufacturer ID doesn't tell you anything about the quality of the discs, such as Ritek G01, Digital Disc Dessau, Optodisc, Ricoh or the such.

One day, you get a good package, and 2 weeks later, the same package contains crap which produces coasters. This phenomenon has been present for CD-R since at least 3 years, so I wonder that you don't know about it in connection with DVD-R :confused:

If you buy DataSafe, Bulkcrap, TraxData or the such, you don't even know the manufacturer when you buy them. So why should they contain discs of constant quality :scared:

You have 2 options:
(a) gamble
(b) buy media which contains constant quality, or for which the
manufacturer includes a warranty (e.g. Verbatim replaces any bad discs)

(a) is much cheaper, and, the same as with any gambling, you can win or loose. Some of you have won, some of you have lost :D
(b) is not cheap (you'll pay something like $3 per disc), but you know what you get before you insert the discs into the burner.

[MR2]

I just figured it out with some Superior Gen4's I bought.

To start with I was getting failure after failure then they started to work. I noticerd that the ones that worked had a batch number stamped in the middle and the ones that failed didn't have this number.

I wondered why all the "cheap" media was TDKG02.
Oh well, you live and learn :)

P.S.
I thought Traxdata was a good make ?

[alexnoe]

My last "TraxData 1x-2x" were Vivastar, which gave 2 out of 20 coasters even at 1x (of course, Vivastar cannot be written at 2x).

Compared to unbranded Vivastar, these TraxData were pretty good (the unbranded didn't write at all in my A03!), but compared to Verbatim or Maxell, which did never cause coasters at 2x, it's definitely nothing I'd buy again.

TraxData can also be Ritek afaik.

[sarahjh69]

alexnoe
every datasafe/datawrite branded dvd-r I have purchased
(or been given to test)has written perfectly at
2x on my 104 with 2x4all v1.31 firmware.
every white label dvd-r i have had has failed to write at
any speed (and thats wierd cos white label is a
subsiduary of datasafe)

MR2
the TDKG02 stamper machine has been copied in the
3rd world and reproduced several times. So its
hardly a surprise that a lot of crap media is being
produced by the untraceable 'clones'

[NeedaKip]

I tried nero 5510 and had problems playing dvd's in players other than my pioneer 717. Went back to nero 5599 and now all is well.

[TheBandit]

I found exactally the same problem with the latest version of Nero 5510 discs would only play in my 717.

Went back to an earlier version and the problem disappeared :)