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wondersailor
17th December 2002, 20:47
Hi all,
Lookin' for ideas- can't get the tv out working on my ati 7500.I can't get the setup software to recognise that any tv is hooked up. I've tried hooking it up to a tv, vcr, and a rf modulator - no go.
ati support is useless.The only thing they can come up with is making sure the connections are tight!
All ideas are wellcome and gratefully accepted!

auenf
20th December 2002, 14:46
make sure the cable is connected when you boot the machine ;)

you should see your bios screen on the tv as well.

Enf...

jim1595
21st December 2002, 05:30
If that didn't work try and make sure that you have the correct video settings on your tv or vcr or rf modulator...

droolian01
21st December 2002, 15:38
Hi

With my ati 9000 based card you have to select tv as your primary display before you can get video onto your tv.

Hope this helps

bokus70
31st December 2002, 12:45
Hi, I have 7500 too and boy have I got the experience about hoooking the PC to a TV set... I've learned that the hard way. :) I will tell you what to do to make sure everything will be ok, and to make sure 7500's tv output isn't broken.

1) Plug your tv and the PC (monitor, speakers, etc.) in the same outlet. This is very important step. Otherwise video card tv output or tv set input could burst into flames (not literally, of course :).

2) Make sure you don't connect/disconnect pc with the tv when either of these are turned on. Switch them off completely, then plug the cable.

3) It is wise, but not mandatory, to disconnect the aerial from the tv set. It can make the picture worse, sure, but that's not all. If it stays connected, you may encounter the same problem I mentioned in 1), especially during stormy weather.

4) Now you are ready. Turn on the pc, turn on the tv (don't forget to switch to the AV input :) and if tv output is working, you should see the booting screen (you know, the first few screen during booting, memory counting, IDE devices searching etc.) This is always visible on the tv set, even if you turned off the tv output in the windows drivers!

So, if you can't see this, your tv output on 7500 is faulty. Other option is that the input on the tv set is broken, but since you tried other equipment I doubt that the tv is the problem. Of course, there is a slight chance that both things are dead, but hey, what are the odds...

I personally lost two video card outputs and one tv set inputs before I finally discovered what was the problem in my configuration. Those were the days of FRUSTRATION, believe me. And the problem was in the badly installed wiring in my flat...

((( atom )))
2nd January 2003, 05:34
@bokus70:

i am using a radeon 7000 and i am having one unsolved issue ever since. when not in overscan-mode the picture on the tv is centered perfedtly but of course underscanned. when i use overscan the picture is being placed too low on the screen so that a 16:9-movie will be shown with a black bar above the picture on my 16:9 tv.

i really think about buying a new card, since there is no help nowhere. i have another ati-card here, wich has exactly the same problem.

any ideas/experiences?

sarahjh69
2nd January 2003, 12:03
download zoomplayer
play the movie full screen
zoom in and out using + and - keys
centre the picture using the 4 arrow keys

how easy is that then!!!!!

((( atom )))
2nd January 2003, 14:33
zoomin doesn't work in theater-mode, since only the overlay is directly passed to the tv-out, wich is the very best tv-out there is..

bokus70
3rd January 2003, 08:20
Unfortunately I have no experience with 16:9 tv sets. I presume you tried to position the screen with the driver commands in Windows?

Anyway, can somebody explain what is the theater mode on Ati cards?

((( atom )))
3rd January 2003, 09:02
the fact, that it is a 16:9 screen, doesn't make any difference, since the 4:3-signal is simply being cut to 16:9, what doesn't fil is lost - no problem for movies, width stays 640, so no rescaling is envolved.

what theatre-mode does, is that it writes the overlay directly to the tv-out. that's all. in other words, when displaying a movie in any player, a copy of the signals that you see as the movie in the player is being sent to the tv-out. if your movie meets 640 pixels width, again no rescaling.

the nice thing about this mode is, that your desktop-resolution actually stays right as it is, only the refresh-rate gets converted, so it is wise to choose a rate that is dividiable by 25 for pal and accordingly for ntsc - but thats wise anyway...

I presume you tried to position the screen with the driver commands in Windows? i don't exactly understand, wich commands you mean.

InfoCynic
3rd January 2003, 20:57
He might mean repositioning the video output on the TV using Display Control Panel -> Settings -> Advanced -> Displays (requires ATI control panel installed) -> TV -> Adjustments.

Anyone know how to get 640x480 back for my TV-Out on a Radeon 8500 on XP? Stupid XP locking me at 8x6 and higher...

Zhnujm
3rd January 2003, 21:03
i think he means the ati driver properties where you can move/size the picture around. unfortunatly not in overscan mode :mad: , i have the same problem with my 8500 here.
i think its just to hard for those multi-million $ companies to create a (good) working tv-out, its the same with almost every brand, if this thing works another is broken.
can pleeeease somebody port ffdshow to AmigaOS :D

//ups, somebody was faster

((( atom )))
4th January 2003, 01:59
..unfortunately that doesn't work in overscan mode.

i know the locked screen problem. it fixes itself for me, if i use theathre mode and open a movie with 640xXXX. it switches to that res. than and back, whenthe movie is over.

downloada
7th January 2003, 14:18
hi,

i've got a radeon 7000 card in my htpc and i would really like to know how to enable overscan mode for this card. i have it connected to my a/v-receiver, not to a pc-monitor (only for setup and configuration), so the picture is only on the tv-out. on my 16:9-tv there are still black borders above and beyond the picture even if the movie is 1,85:1 (i use anamorphic ar in zoomplayer, better quality). it doesn't really matter with 2,35:1-movies, but i'd like overscan-mode anyways. i used rage3d-tweaker and enabled overscan but it's still underscan, nothing changed compared to the standard-settings.

so how do i enable the overscan for my radeon 7000 card?

cu and thanx in advance

((( atom )))
7th January 2003, 18:27
go to
[display properties]->[advanced]->[displays]->[tv]->[adjustments]
here you should find tha button [overscan] as long as [diplay properties]->[advanced]->[rage3dtweak]->[dvd&mmc]->[tv-overscan support] is checked.

good luck

Budginator
14th January 2003, 03:51
Originally posted by InfoCynic
Anyone know how to get 640x480 back for my TV-Out on a Radeon 8500 on XP? Stupid XP locking me at 8x6 and higher...

This shits me too, on my laptop, winxp won't go to 640x480. The lowest it goes is 800x600...

Edit- ATI Rage Mobility M1 8MB is the card.

((( atom )))
11th February 2003, 20:34
..just reinstalled my system - win2k now (was xp) and my tv-out gives me 800x600 @ first booting with tv connected and now is fixed to 512x384 whatever i try to trick it.

how can they put out such driver that can do ceveral resolutions for the secondary display and not implement a function to set this res???

anyone found a trick yet?