Question about Copy Protected DVDs playing in stand-alone DVD players

[ArdenDag]

Hi, I've got a somewhat stupid and silly question concerning copy protected DVDs playing on stand alone DVD players on a television with only a Coaxial input (no s-video or A/V cable input). How do I go about hooking up the DVD player to the television without a digital receiver? Is it possible?

Currently I have it hooked up through my VCR, then to my TV.

Also, question about what happens when the player attempts to play those copy protected DVDs. On some DVDs (LotR extended edition) it seems to play fine, just a little 'distorted', as if it's a bad input, but on other DVDs (Top Gun, Apollo 13, Cheaters, Saving Private Ryan) it shows them as if they're scrambled.

Does the DVD player do this, or the VCR? Is the only way around this using a digital receiver?

Please help, thanks :)

EDIT: Ok, found part of my solution searching the forum.

I saw this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37710&highlight=dvd+copy+protection+player

I guess DVDs like LotR extended edition are DIGITALLY copy protected, but not macrovision protected. That is what I was noticing.

Ok, so is there any way around the macrovision protection without getting a digital receiver? :)

[gabest]

Two remarks :)

1. There is no such thing as a digital receiver, composite/svhs/scart, they are all analog just like your television.

2. You won't be able to connect any dvd with macrovision through a vcr, unless it is very-very old.

Edit: (after reading the article about superbit)
3. superbit is not a protection, but as it seems they forgot to put the macrovision protection on these releases.

[ArdenDag]

Originally posted by gabest
Two remarks :)

1. There is no such thing as a digital receiver, composite/svhs/scart, they are all analog just like your television.

2. You won't be able to connect any dvd with macrovision through a vcr, unless it is very-very old.

Edit: (after reading the article about superbit)
3. superbit is not a protection, but as it seems they forgot to put the macrovision protection on these releases.

1) my terminology was mixed up, I meant an analog receiver, but it came out as digital ;)

2) Does this include PS2s? I have my PS2 hooked up through my VCR and it plays fine on all DVDs, maybe the VCR in my room is just old :p

3) Hmm, I guess there's no macrovision protection on LotR extended edition, or it's a different type of protection that doesn't skew the signal like the other DVDs I tried.

gabest, is there any way other than an analog receiver to connect my DVD player to my TV? Any cables that will convert the outputs to coaxial (regular cable)? :)

[gabest]

Yea, such converter exists. You can buy one if you find the right place.

2. Isn't your ps2 chipped? I've never tried mine through a vcr, but I'm going to do it today :)

[jacobjef]

RF Modulator does the trick. Probably 10 bucks at Radio Shack.

[ArdenDag]

Thanks, I'll check Radio Shack today for an RF Modulator.

No, my PS2 isn't chipped, right out of the box ;)

If all else fails I'll just switch VCRs and use the input on my TV in my room for my PS2 ;)

[ArdenDag]

Actually, the RF modulator cost 30 bucks.

If it was the VCR (I will test by switching VCRs later) then I'm going to switch them and use the TV inputs in my room and return the damn $30 thing. They had about 100 of them at the Radio Shack I went to, guess they had a lot of people asking for them, jesus, but $30 bucks?