2CD Setting end up w/ 3CD's using frame selection

[DigitalMarine]

Hi,

I'm using frame selection since it was available, because it is a nice feature until an automatic "cutting by chapter" is integrated ;)

But now for the first time I end up with 3CD's even though I set up DVD2SVCD doing a 2CD version.

Here comes the log
WNASPI32.DLL 4.6.0.1021
Key found: E169031100
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- 13.12.2002 22:54:34
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.0 build 1c
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 13.12.2002 22:54:42
- Free on drive E: 20276.52 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
- G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
- G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob

Ripping: G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
Ripping: G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
Ripping: G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
Ripping: G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
Ripping: G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
Ripping: G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
Ripping: G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 6822

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- 13.12.2002 23:09:05
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=
[E:\movie\source\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=E:\movie\source\VTS_01_1.vob,E:\movie\source\VTS_01_2.vob,
E:\movie\source\VTS_01_3.vob,E:\movie\source\VTS_01_4.vob,
E:\movie\source\VTS_01_5.vob,E:\movie\source\VTS_01_6.vob,
E:\movie\source\VTS_01_7.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 13.12.2002 23:14:07
- Free on drive E: 14540.00 mb
- Frameselection
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Frameselection 1: 0 - 74547
Frameselection 2: 74498 - 156534

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- 13.12.2002 23:21:52
- Free on drive E: 14540.00 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: E:\movie\audio\Extracted_audio_2.ac3
Found AC3 stream id: 0x81
Filename: E:\movie\audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -40 ms
Audio2 delay: -80 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 13.12.2002 23:30:13
- Free on drive E: 13966.73 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: E:\movie\audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core(
-input "E:\movie\audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3"
-output "E:\movie\audio\Encoded_audio_1_FS1.mp2"
-logfile "E:\movie\audio\Encoded_audio_1_FS1.log" )
-azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max )
-ota( -d -40 )
-shibatch( --rate 44100 )
-2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
-split( -start 0 -end 2981.88 )
Audio conversion of E:\movie\audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.


Encoding Audio. Filename: E:\movie\audio\Extracted_audio_2.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core(
-input "E:\movie\audio\Extracted_audio_2.ac3"
-output "E:\movie\audio\Encoded_audio_2_FS1.mp2"
-logfile "E:\movie\audio\Encoded_audio_2_FS1.log" )
-azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max )
-ota( -d -80 )
-shibatch( --rate 44100 )
-2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
-split( -start 0 -end 2981.88 )
Audio conversion of E:\movie\audio\Extracted_audio_2.ac3 finished.


Encoding Audio. Filename: E:\movie\audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core(
-input "E:\movie\audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3"
-output "E:\movie\audio\Encoded_audio_1_FS2.mp2"
-logfile "E:\movie\audio\Encoded_audio_1_FS2.log" )
-azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max )
-ota( -d -40 )
-shibatch( --rate 44100 )
-2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
-split( -start 2979.92 -end 6261.36 )
Audio conversion of E:\movie\audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.


Encoding Audio. Filename: E:\movie\audio\Extracted_audio_2.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core(
-input "E:\movie\audio\Extracted_audio_2.ac3"
-output "E:\movie\audio\Encoded_audio_2_FS2.mp2"
-logfile "E:\movie\audio\Encoded_audio_2_FS2.log" )
-azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max )
-ota( -d -80 ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 )
-2lame( -e -b 128 -m s ) -split( -start 2979.92 -end 6261.36 )
Audio conversion of E:\movie\audio\Extracted_audio_2.ac3 finished.

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- 13.12.2002 23:54:25
- Free on drive E: 13871.15 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Administrator\Eigene Dateien\Eigene Bilder\alien4.gif
Converting: D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Converting: D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\DefaultLastCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 13.12.2002 23:54:47
- Free on drive E: 13869.72 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1663691176
AudioSectors: 106592584
VideoPAPO: 24120288
ScanOffsetBytes: 98444
SeqAligningBytes: 6256689
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 1526623163.07
Seconds: 3286.48
CalcMPEGStream: 1526623163.07
Frames: 82037
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 2
Cut point 795.00
StreamSectors: 832542788
AudioSectors: 96878264
VideoPAPO: 11395836
ScanOffsetBytes: 89458
SeqAligningBytes: 5685527
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 600.00
PureMPEGStream: 718493698.93
Seconds: 2986.92
CalcMPEGStream: 718493698.93
Frames: 74548
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 795.00
StreamSectors: 1663691176
AudioSectors: 106592584
VideoPAPO: 24120288
ScanOffsetBytes: 98444
SeqAligningBytes: 6256689
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 1526623163.07
Seconds: 3286.48
CalcMPEGStream: 1526623163.07
Frames: 82037
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 2
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 82037
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 5
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2500
Avg. Bitrate: 2200
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("E:\movie\source\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(448,318,0,0.6,24,76,672,424)
AddBorders(16,129,16,129)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 1.320
Video Encoding finished.

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- 14.12.2002 07:51:54
- Free on drive E: 12286.70 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "E:\movie\video\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 14.12.2002 08:23:43
- Free on drive E: 12095.43 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "E:\movie\video\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 14.12.2002 08:23:49
- Free on drive E: 12095.43 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "E:\movie\video\LastCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 14.12.2002 08:23:56
- Free on drive E: 12095.43 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "E:\movie\mux\bbMPEG_Muxed_File_FS1.mpg"
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "E:\movie\mux\bbMPEG_Muxed_File_FS2.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 14.12.2002 08:43:04
- Free on drive E: 10321.49 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: E:\movie\mux\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2979.605 seconds E:\movie\mux\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: E:\movie\mux\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2651.246 seconds E:\movie\mux\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing: E:\movie\mux\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
627.722 seconds E:\movie\mux\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 14.12.2002 08:44:52
- Free on drive E: 10321.49 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 14

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="E:\movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="E:\movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "E:\movie\VCDXBU~1.XML"
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- 14.12.2002 08:48:15
- Free on drive E: 9517.59 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 12

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="E:\movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="E:\movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "E:\movie\VCDXBU~2.XML"
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- 14.12.2002 08:51:07
- Free on drive E: 8711.64 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 2

CD image #3: CD_Image_File_CD3.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"D:\Programme\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="E:\movie\CD_Image_File_CD3.cue" --bin-file="E:\movie\CD_Image_File_CD3.bin" "E:\movie\VCDXBU~3.XML"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 14.12.2002 08:51:58
- Free on drive E: 8521.17 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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DVD2SVCD Settings:
0-53 Min use 1 80Min CDs
54-106 Min use 2 80Min CDs
Max Bitrate at 2500 (because of 2 Audio Streams)
Min Bitrate at 300
Min Avg unchecked

Can someone tell why it happens and how to get rid of it?

[markrb]

When doing the addition of the seconds of the two sections the total time is 109 minutes. This is bumping DVD2SVCD into using the next section that would read
if a movies total length is 106-??? use 3 CD's at ???-???? bitrate.
I am guessing it says 3 cd's since DVD2SVCD used 3 cd's.

I think you are falling into the common mistake thinking the sections build on one another. They don't. If the total length of the movie does not fit in a time section DVD2SVCD keeps moving on until it hits a match. Then uses the information in that section only. Even when doing frame selection.

One word of advice if you plan to play these on a DVD player raise your audio bitrate to at least 160. Most DVD players have issues with 128kbit audio.

Mark

[DigitalMarine]

Well,

DVD2SVCD is telling me movie length of 104.08 Mins. Adding 5 sec. (5 x 25 fps = 125 frame) overlap is an overall length of 104.58 Min - for me anyway. Am I Wrong calculating this way? Where is the problem?
http://www.fensterbild.de/audio/pic.png
My RedStar DVD Stand-Alone Player is happy with 128kbit per language and I have more bitrate for the video-encoding, but I will give 2 x 192kbit audio a try and take a look at the video quality.

[markrb]

It seems my math was wrong and the movie is slightly longer then 104 minutes, not the 109 I originally thought.

IFO files can be wrong, but after doing the math again I did get 104.?? for minutes.

Only thing I can figure is it's a bug with frame selection and two audio streams.

You can either just remux the mp2 and mpv to larger BIN files if your DVD layer will handle slightly overburned discs (most do) or you will have to re-encode the video and force a smaller MAX AVG bitrate.

I can help you with whichever you choose to try if you need it. Just let me know which one. If you choose the remux tell me the size of the third BBmpeg_muxed_file03.mpg file so I can be sure it can be done easily enough.

Mark

[DigitalMarine]

Hi Mark,

thanks for Your offer, but it seems, that the single files are to large to get fit on 2 x 80Min CD-R's

CD1

Audio1: 45,5 MB (47.710.459 Bytes)
Audio2: 45,4 MB (47.709.623 Bytes)
Video: 683 MB (717.122.100 Bytes)
Mux: 792 MB (830.936.904 Bytes)
Bin: 803 MB (842.933.280 Bytes)


CD2

Audio1: 50,0 MB (52.501.943 Bytes)
Audio2: 50,0 MB (52.501.525 Bytes)
Video: 860 MB (902.423.080 Bytes)
Mux: 794 MB (833.411.964 Bytes)
Bin: 805 MB (845.078.304 Bytes)


CD3

Mux: 186 MB (195.755.168 Bytes)
Bin: 190 MB (199.715.376 Bytes)


I think, the easiest way is to re-encode the movie and give DVD2SVCD a bit more range to calculate, but I wait for Your solution ;)

[markrb]

That would be too much to burn on an 80 minute CD-R, you are right.
So you do need to re-encode the video.

If you are going to keep the audio at 128(which I think is yukky, but it's your audio) then change the MAX AVG bitrate to 2040. This will not allow DVD2SVCD to go above that bitrate and should be just about right for what you want, it's a few points smaller, but best to be on the safe side. If you are doing recover make sure to input the bitrate after you load the d2s file.

Mark