New tool: DoItFast4U!

[Eyes`Only]

Welcome to the DoItFast thread. Here we discuss, beta test, and report on all the DoItFast tools (currently DoItFast4U,DoCCE4U,and Reauthorist).

Authors: Eyes`Only = DoItFast4U
BBWoof = DoCCE4U
Aquabubble = Reauthorist

Also special thanks to Trilight, Light_UK, and Gabest for their particular involvement in this project.

Special thanks to Doom9, JDobbs, Coop920, OxP, and others that have participated in refining the methods of dvd9->dvd5. You know who you are :D

Eyes`Only

[TRILIGHT]

This is definitely a tool you need to make your multi-PGC life easier. We've been using this method since it was just a batch process. If you don't know what it is this tool does for you to make your life easier, you need to learn a bit more of what's involved with recreating a multi-PGC structure. Otherwise, you know the value of the tool already. Enjoy! I do! :D

[rishardc]

This thing looks great. Can't wait to give it a whirl tommorow.

[TRILIGHT]

By the way, if you're new to the world of multi-PGC and don't know how this tool incorporates into your project, the guide I wrote HERE (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39916) gives you step-by-step information on how to use this tool in the process.

[Yohudi]

This is an Excellent piece of kit.... takes a LOT of the pain out of multi-PGC... NUFF RESPECT to "Eyes Only"

One minor niggle/bug...

If you select the ALL angle option for Vobsub then the process is halted every time DoitFast4U tries to make DVDDecryptor save out the angle subs... Decryptor doesn't seem to be renaming the files.. or doesn'r seem to be able to for some reason..

I'm not 100% on this as I'm not 100% on the title being multi-angle think maybe it's a bug.. say if you select ALL on a single angle title... Worked NO PROBLEM if I selected angle 01 etc

[Eyes`Only]

If you select the ALL angle option for Vobsub then the process is halted every time DoitFast4U tries to make DVDDecryptor save out the angle subs... Decryptor doesn't seem to be renaming the files.. or doesn'r seem to be able to for some reason..

Couple of important things to note:

DVD Decryptor doesn't do the angle subs, that's Vobsub's job. If you are getting the message box from Vobsub and not able to continue until closing it, the most likely reason is that you didn't install Vobsub correctly. Download the newest version of Vobsub (2.22 i think) and install it, and this should go away.

All this and more is answered on my site at http://members.cox.net/doitfast4u . As I get more questions about things such as your sub problem the answers will appear in FAQ, so it may be wise to bookmark this page. New version 1.0 will have this link in it somewhere. Though I appreciate Doom9 deeming it worthy enough to host a copy of the program on his site, I didn't expect him to publish my app without a mention to my page so I didn't forsee the need for this (hindsight is always 20/20, eh?)

The Guide Step 1 especially talks about proper preparation before using DoItFast4U! correctly.

[wmansir]

I noticed after I uninstalled this program it left an entry in my windows explorer context menu for folders ("DoItFast4U in this directory beta 0.90"). A quick search thru the registry found the leftover entry, but I wanted to make you aware of the bug.

[Bear263]

Originally posted by Yohudi
One minor niggle/bug...

If you select the ALL angle option for Vobsub then the process is halted every time DoitFast4U tries to make DVDDecryptor save out the angle subs... Decryptor doesn't seem to be renaming the files.. or doesn'r seem to be able to for some reason..

Don't know if this is the same, but I found that decryptor couldn't rename the audio files. I just renamed them while it was ripping.

Everything else worked great.

I can rename them, I have no problem with that. This handy program is great. Takes a lot of the hassle's away.

Bear

[Eyes`Only]

Thanks for the info, wmansir. I'll change that in the next rls, definitely.

As for not being able to rename the files, Yohudi & Bear263, this sounds like a direct cause of not having the 2 checkboxes shown in step 1 of the Guide checked in DvdDec before starting DIF4U. This is why the install expressly states to make sure you have all requirements in The Guide step #1 completed.

When DVDDEC 3.1.5.0 finally comes out, this problem will be non-existent, but for now it's neccessary to tweak manually. The problem only persists because DVDDEC 3.1.5.0 was supposed to be out the same day my program was made public (I actually waited for that due date because of this) and all these requirements would have been non-existent had that happened.

Sorry for the issue. I could have tweaked it in the registry, but I honestly didn't think it was going to be an issue. Although, I did mention it in The Guide and/or the installer, luckily.

[Bear263]

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
As for not being able to rename the files, Yohudi & Bear263, this sounds like a direct cause of not having the 2 checkboxes shown in step 1 of the Guide checked in DvdDec before starting DIF4U. This is why the install expressly states to make sure you have all requirements in The Guide step #1 completed.

Duh! I missed that in the guide. Thanks.

Bear

[Eyes`Only]

Bear:

Glad to hear that was the problem!

Everyone:

Get ready... DoItFast4U v. 1.0.0 is coming very soon. I've redone the demux engine for more flexibility with requests and additions. The rename functions have also been improved by popular request, and you will no longer see super long filenames.

Typical filenames output from DIF4U! v.1.0.0 will be like this:

VTS__04_P01.AVS
VTS__04_P01.d2v
VTS__04_P01.M2V
VTS__04_P02A1.AVS
VTS__04_P02A1.d2v
VTS__04_P02A1.M2V
VTS__04_P02A2.AVS
VTS__04_P02A2.d2v
VTS__04_P02A2.M2V
VTS__04_P02A3.AVS
VTS__04_P02A3.d2v
VTS__04_P02A3.M2V
VTS__04_P03.AVS
VTS__04_P03.d2v
VTS__04_P03.M2V


Also the angle demuxing has been rewritten to (hopefully?!) not skip angles as some were reporting, and the most popular request..

VobID demuxing will be fully implemented.
(Video and audio demux are finished, I'm working on VobID subs now)

Thanks to all that have donated. You just make me want to work that much harder to make this program do everything ever needed for DVD-prepping!

[jdobbs]

Eyes Only,

This looks really cool!!! I just downloaded it and haven't tried it yet, but it looks like the hottest thing to come around in quite a while for DVD-Backers. I hope to try it tomorrow.

Thanks, dude -- great work.

jdobbs

[Eyes`Only]

JDobbs,

Thanks bud. Hope you enjoy it. It's definitely a rough work-in-progress.. version 1.0 will be much more refined. I'm working with the vobsub author to get full vobid functionality.. i have the video and audio down, and i'm testing a vobid-capable vobsub beta that, if working, will enable us to author seamless branching titles just like the studios!

[Bear263]

Eye's Only, Again, this is a great tool and I thank you for taking the time to code it.

I do have a couple of questions: I did High Crimes (NTSC) last night. Everything went smooth with your program. I encoded it with CCE. Then went back to DIF4U to do the pulldown. Took the pulldowned .m2v and imported it into ScenaristNt with no errors and created the vts for the main movie. Upon looking at the .ifo, there was no playback, chapters or anything pertaining to the movie. So I took the same .m2v and imported it into DVDMaestro again no errors. DVDmaestro wouldn't import the chapters. I then did a pulldown manually (no drop_framrate) and imported it into dvdmaestro and it accepted the chapters created the vts and worked with no problems.

My questions are: Is there times when drop_framerate is not needed while using pulldown? And maybe could you add a check box to not do drop_framrate?

Or did I totally miss something here? Again!:confused:

I should also say that I did M.A.S.H. season 2 with DIF4U using the pulldown option of it and had no problems.

Thanks
Bear

[TRILIGHT]

The only time the drop_frame setting is not needed is to do the "workaround" to get chapters imported properly as listed in the single-PGC guide I wrote for Maestro. That's really the only reason that step is needed (non-drop) is to make sure the chapter import doesn't bitch in Maestro. This problem does not occur in Scenarist. Also, since Scenarist is so much easier to use for multi-PGC titles, I highly recommend it for both now. Certain things (chapters, etc) used to be a real pain in the ass in Scenarist. Things have gotten a LOT better since then. Anyway, as I mentioned, the only time the non-drop is needed is to avoid the bitching that Maestro does on chapter import.

[Eyes`Only]

I usually don't cater to the Maestro users, since I believe Scenarist to be a much more refined authoring utility. However, the implementation of that feature is simple enough that I've decided to accept your request and will make that a feature in version 1.0.0, which is completed, being tested, and will probably be available on my website later tonight.

[Bear263]

I do prefer ScenaristNt over Maestro. Just couldn't get it to work right with this movie. Like I said, it created the vts set 3.5 gig worth but the .ifo file had no info for the movie. I had checked it before using ifoupdate. That's why I turned to maestro.

Thanks for adding the feature. It may come in handy sometime.

Bear

[Eyes`Only]

Did you use scenchap to import the chapters? I can't imagine you knowing how to use Scenarist and not using that, but it is pretty much impossible to not get chapters, etc. if you DO use it.

[Bear263]

Yes I use scenchap. Works quite well. It imported the chapters as usual. Showed them in the track editor. Just didin't create anything for them. I do admit, I don't know all the ends and out of Scenarist. Still trying to learn the more complex parts of it. Just for some reason, High Crimes didn't work the first time.

Bear

[Eyes`Only]

Well OK you got the chapters in the track, but did you create a pgc in the scenario editor and add the track? Basic Scenarist procedure. By the way, v.1.0.0 is on the website. Enjoy.

[valnar]

Does Doit4U work with single PGC titles too? I'm just a newbie here trying to find that magic tool (or set of tools) that work for all DVD's.

Thanks,
Robert

[Eyes`Only]

It's a prep tool. What you do with the assets it provides is up to you. If the original VTS is one pgc, it's only gonna give you back one set of assets, obviously.

[D-an-W]

Congrats on the tool Eyes`Only, one quick question...

I'm learning to use it on "The Fast and the Furious" and the main movie is VTS 08, so as below I have selected VTS 08 and Force Film, but do I choose to Vobsub PGC08 as well, or leave it as PGC01?

Since we are working with the movie first, select VTS 01, Force Film, and Vobsub PGC01 and then click the "DO IT!" button.

Sorry if this is a real n00b question, but I am searching the guide now for any clues...

D-an-W

[jdobbs]

@Eyes Only

This tool works great and saves a lot of time. Thanks for all the effort!

I just love it when things get easier.

jdobbs

[Eyes`Only]

JDobbs: Thanks bud. Coming from you that means a lot!

D-an-W: vobsub whatever pgc has subs. If more than one does and you want them, just vobsub ALL.

[D-an-W]

Tnx m8y...I am starting to feel The Fast and the Furious aint too good a title to begin using the tool with though...

Even the Extras are MultiPGC, and @ 1.7Gb I am sure I would have to reduce them in size...:confused:

[fourtyfour]

servus...

Wow, tried it first time and works very well!

Great job!

But, why do you use the "old" mpeg2dec.dll?

Is there a way to change this to mpeg2dec3 or mpec2dec2.dll or to choose it?

DIF4U make multiple PGC easy and fast, but all together could be faster with new mpeg2dec3 (in my case ~0.5 between mpec2dec.dll to mpec2dec3.dll) ;)

It might be cool like an advanced button (in a advanced tool :D) for changing what in the *.avs file.

So I can delete Resample Audio once and all PGC.avs without this CCE 2.50 AMD line.

[Eyes`Only]

Fast and the Furious is a VERY high-level DVD. Only an extremely experienced person should attempt to replicate it exactly. It contains seamless branching, slideshows, and countless pgcs... I really wouldn't recommend it for learning. It's one to 'come back to' when you feel you have the basics pretty much mastered. Just my 2 cents. :)

[Eyes`Only]

fourtyfour:

Thanks. Very intuitive questions.. let me attempt a good answer.

I've used that version of mpeg2dec.dll for a while, never realized there's a good reason to upgrade. Now you're saying newer versions allow CCE to process faster? I'll definitely use the newest version in my updates. As for currently, simply rename your mpeg2dec3.dll to mpeg2dec.dll, and replace the current mpeg2dec.dll in your system32 directory. That should fix you nicely.

As for the ResampleAudio line.. I've never been able to NOT use it, and I have a P4, not an AMD. I know several others that have had the same experience. You say you can use cce2.5 and .avses without needing that ResampleAudio line? Enlighten us as to how?

Email me via the 'about' page in my program and give me your email addy, I will send you a beta version of DIF4U with your requested fixes if you would like, so you can tell me if they are correctly done.

[fourtyfour]

servus...

Sorry, my english is getting to the limit.

I know, the ResampleAudio line ist for CCE 2.50.
I use 2.66 at time, so I don´t need this CCE 2.5 (optimized) line, cause it´s only for CCE 2.50 with AMD.
Right or am I wrong?

About the mpeg2dec3.dll:

Yes, this one works faster with avisynth 2.06
mikeathome and some other guys checked this out, too.
so an update couldn´t be wrong :D

Here´s the link to the newer versions:
http://ziquash.chez.tiscali.fr/
Attention: 2 versions available!

[Eyes`Only]

fourtyfour:

OK I'm testing mpeg2dec3.dll as we speak.. to verify claims before i modify my proggie and offset everyone's world hehehe.

Let me ask you this. I noticed an "idct=5" switch you can use to force SSE2 usage if you have a P4. Do you have an AMD? What would be the result if someone put this line in their avs and had an AMD or a processor that didnt have SSE2 instructions? Would mpeg2dec3 default to another method?

Also, unless I'm mistaken, the ResampleAudio line adds no overhead to your CCE encoding time, since you're not using audio anyway, so if I'm correct, there would be no point in removing it whether or not it's needed. Have you solid proof that this line would slow down CCE? I don't think it does. Even if you have 2.66.

[Bear263]

I use CCE 2.5 with a AMDXP 2200+ and I always uncheck the audio box in CCE. Never have a problem with it. Even have taken it out of the .avs script. But this is just my experience.

Bear

[Eyes`Only]

bear263:

But when leaving it in do you experience speed decrease? That's the real question of the hour.

I cant seem to get mpeg2dec3.dll to give me any speed improvements. Anyone want to point out what I'm doing wrong?

[Bear263]

To be honest, I haven't noticed any difference in speed. My experience is with no audio in the .avs, I can get 2.0 speed out of CCE depending on the movie. Today I got between 1.6 and 1.7.

I keep a look out on the difference with and without.


Don't know if that helps.

Bear

[rasta21]

...bug in doitfast4u 1.0.3 beta

...when i set the tool for my needs and use the "save settings and close" button, the settings become reseted after restart.

P.S: maybe you can implement function to generate a ecl file...could be useful

P.P.S: kewl tool ;)

[fourtyfour]

servus...

I missed a "GER" choice in Language Selection. ;)

More better could be a tick(or flag) for every audio stream I want.
(for dual language without all streams)

Maybe a *.D2F (not *.d2v) output file like DVD2Avi frm do for Scenchap could be helpful.


How does the Audio demuxer work? With DVD2Avi?
Is it possible to demux DTS streams?
(Sorry, I haven´t DTS stuff here to check if it possible; it´s just a question)

[Eyes`Only]

Multiple selection is something I've been thinking about implementing.. but not just yet :D

As for .d2f, it's only possible on later versions of dvd2avi, and I need a CLI version of dvd2avi. I'm using the latest that dvd2svcd also uses, which is version 1.76 and it doesn't support .d2f, sorry. If a newer version of dvd2avi became CLI-capable, I'd definitely look to implementing .d2f, but from what I've seen, if you set chapters in CCE and then use scenchap in Scenarist, chapters are perfectly synced anyway.

Audio demux is done via DVD Decrypter, which demuxes .dts also. If you use the files-on-the-hdd (not recommended) method, audio demux is done via dvd2avi 1.76 CLI, which means you will not get .dts.

[fourtyfour]

servus...

New "bug":

Does DIF4U works without DVDDecrypter 3.1.5.0 ?

Some people have problems with ripping more than one angle to hdd.

Like SW 1,

here´s the log:

Begin LOG
---
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 1 ANGLE 1
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 1 ANGLE 1
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 1 ANGLE 1
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 1 ANGLE 1
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 1 ANGLE 1
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 2 ANGLE 1
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 3 ANGLE 1
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 4 ANGLE 1
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 5 ANGLE 1
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 6 ANGLE 1
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 7 ANGLE 1
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 8 ANGLE 1
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 9 ANGLE 1
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 9 ANGLE 1
Finished Processing VTS 01 PGC 10 ANGLE 1
---
Step 2: Creating DVD2AVI Projects
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_A1V01.M2V
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_A1V02.M2V
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_A1V04.M2V
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_A1V05.M2V
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_A1V06.M2V
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_V05.M2V
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_V08.M2V
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_V09.M2V
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_V10.M2V
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_V11.M2V
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_V12.M2V
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_V13.M2V
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_V14.M2V
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_V15.M2V
Executing DVD2AVI on VTS__01_V16.M2V
---
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_A1V01.d2v
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_A1V02.d2v
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_A1V04.d2v
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_A1V05.d2v
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_A1V06.d2v
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_V05.d2v
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_V08.d2v
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_V09.d2v
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_V10.d2v
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_V11.d2v
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_V12.d2v
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_V13.d2v
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_V14.d2v
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_V15.d2v
Creating Avisynth script on VTS__01_V16.d2v
Task Completed.

Any ideas?

[Eyes`Only]

weird.. that looks like it ripped by vobid. was vobid checked?

[fourtyfour]

servus...

VobID was checked, because he want to split by VobID and have all multiangle.

For example; multiangle movie:

Angle 1: Cell1->Cell2->Cell4->Cell5->Cell7-> ...
Angle 2: Cell1->Cell3->Cell4->Cell6->Cell7-> ...

So if I want to demuy by VobID (Cell 1-6 = VobID 1-6; Cell7-Cell26= VobID7), DIF4U ripps only the VobID in Angle 1 (1,2,4,5,7,...).
But I want VobID 3 and 5,too.

There is a solution when I ripp Angle 2 separate.
But in this case, I have double of hdd capacy in use.

It could be very usefull to ripp all Cells of a VTS in one Step.
So all Cells I want will be in my folder.

[Eyes`Only]

I'm sorry bud.. at this point hdd demux only supports regular demuxing correctly. I can do vobid demux and cell demux, and I may work on it sometime, but for now, donators are requesting things more along the lines of better fat32 support, improved filename renaming, etc.

Most people that know how to even use vobid demux and cellid demux are the ones that also know to rip to .iso and mount with daemon-tools. :D

[fourtyfour]

servus...

Your last post confusing me .
(maybe I confuse you, too :D)

I work with mounted ISO and Daemon-tools (the other guys too)

The problem isn´t to rip the angles in vobid or cellid.

The "problem" is to rip a part of angle 2 not the whole thing.
(like DVDDecrypter Ifo mode and set flags to Cells and chapters)

In this case I want only Cell3 and 6 from angle 2.
But DIF4U rip all Cells or all vobid´s.
(or I don´t find the right option how to do one Cell only)

[TRILIGHT]

If all you're wanting is one or two cells, why don't you just use DVD Decrypter directly? Afterall, the whole idea behind the tool first being made was to speed up the process of having to deal with a LOT of files that needed to be extracted for a FULL backup.

[fourtyfour]

servus...

If it one or two files, the dvddecrypter mode would be fine.

But what about more files?

I don´t need angle 1 and angle 2 complete.

So I have 7 gb of files that should be 3.6 gb.

If I have more files, the option would make less work.

P.S.: This are not demands, this are just a few ideas for you to make a perfect Tool.

[BBWoof]

I think I've gotta agree with Trilight here, if you're ripping out small sections, use dvddecrypter by itself. I've been using DIF4U making complete backups of DVDs and so far it's worked fine, doing what it was meant to do.

BB

[fourtyfour]

servus...

I give it up.

I want a full Copy of a multiangle movie!

But why should I ripp angle 1 with 3.5 GB and angle 2 with 3.5 GB when I want a full backup of this movie?

This is why companies uses multiangle:

to minimize capacy and have two language (like the movie logo "Shrek" in eng; "Shrek, der tollkühne Held" in ger)

So they have inly 100 meg more than the angle 1.

With Scenarist, authoring this movie like the original is very easy.

Cell1 -> Cell2 -> Cell4-> Cell5 -> Cell7 -> Cell8 ...
-> Cell3 -> -> Cell6 ->

If you want, I can post a screenshot about the scenarist Editor what I exactly want to do.


So why shouldn´t I use Cell1, Cell4, Cell7, like the original do?

I feel really missunderstood.

[oddyseus]

1st of all I wish to wish everyone happy new year.

2nd Many thanks to Eyes Only for this program.

3d An observation. Maybe it has been discussed already but I've out of town for hollidays and I couldn't watch the forum as I wanted. Anyway I want to say that since we have allready the vobs in the hd, why should we demux and practically double the space needed. Isn't it possible to address the m2v through the vobs?

[timekills]

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
...As for .d2f, it's only possible on later versions of dvd2avi, and I need a CLI version of dvd2avi. I'm using the latest that dvd2svcd also uses, which is version 1.76 and it doesn't support .d2f, sorry. If a newer version of dvd2avi became CLI-capable, I'd definitely look to implementing .d2f, but from what I've seen, if you set chapters in CCE and then use scenchap in Scenarist, chapters are perfectly synced anyway....

Have you tried LOLI.J's version of DVD2AVI? It is 1.76 with the .d2f implemented - it gives the standard .d2v file AND a .d2f file. I presume it could be used in CLI version as it is a 1.76 version...

[Eyes`Only]

timekills: It wasn't that the 1.76 release was a CLI version, it was that someone took the 1.76 version and gave it CLI capabilities. So, another modified 1.76 may be CLI, but possibly may not. If you know of a CLI version that has .d2f functionality, please PM me with a link.

odysseus: not all .m2vs have to be transcoded to be used. For instance, if I were to get 10 pgcs from a vts, maybe some could be left alone while others were transcoded. This is the reason for the .m2vs. Plus it makes the program run smoother, and gives more options for expansion :)

[mikeathome]

Hi,

just downloaded DIF4U Ver. 1.0.0.5
I always get the error message: 'DVDDecrypter not installed' straight after DoIt Button.

YES, DVDDecrypter is installed Ver. 3.1.4.0 (since Ver. 3.1.5.0 still not available) and yes I read the Guide and the first set hint and finally, YES, DVDDecrypter works always. I usually do ISO Images with DVDDecrypter and mount them with Deamon Tools which works as well BUT NOT with DIF4U.

Any advice ?
I checked the registry entries on DVDDecrypter they seem to be ok.

Can somebody pls. post his DVDDecrypters Registry entries here ?

mike