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[Statix]

Question on this guide:
I have followed precisely followed the guide. In the CCE encoding section I have about 2.1GB to work with to encode my movie "down" to in size. I get my output .vaf and .mpv files and they are right at the size I am looking for.
At the end of the guide when i go ahead and compile the new VOB's in DVD Maestro, I end up with about 4 GB's of VOB's. Smaller than the original set (which was about 6 GB) but after I copy them over to the original rip folder, I am still over the 4.37 GB burn limit.
Now somehow, DVD Maestro is taking a 2.1GB .mpv file and turning it into 4 GB's worth of VOB files. This guide, as far as I can see, does not take this into account.
I want to presever perfect backups (menus, commentarys, etc) but if you are calculating a number for CCE and then DVD Maestro effectively doubles that when creating VOB files, it would seem the calculations mean nothing in the guide.
Of course, this is unless I am missing something or doing something wrong which is entirely possible.:D
Anyone that has gone through this guide AND copied over the newly created VOB's to the original rip folder AND is always under the 4.37 GB barrier PLEASE fill me in on what else I need to do!!!

Thanks.

[Tano]

The authoring program Maestro adds about 150meg to the size of the dvd when you compile it.

Are you only using the 2.1gb stream in your project?
Does this 2.1gb contain the extras for the movie?

If so then you should have plently of room to fit the movie on a dvd-r. The only other thing i can think of is that you must be dragging a shitload of large audio tracks into your project which could contribute to the large size.

[TRILIGHT]

Originally posted by Statix
...DVD Maestro is taking a 2.1GB .mpv file and turning it into 4 GB's worth of VOB files...

What??? I assure you, it is not. It sounds to me (as was mentioned) that you are not taking into account the size of your other assets. The mpv file is only your video. If you follow things closely enough, you will see that you are supposed to subtract your various asset file sizes from the total disc space in order to determine a number to shoot for in CCE. As Tano mentioned, you can only expect about 80-160MB or so of "compilation overhead" which is not something you can get an exact number on beforehand but you can at least make a good guess. You might want to read a little more concerning estimating file sizes from the new multi-PGC guide (http://www.trilight.com/multipgc) I wrote. It may give you some better insight.

[Statix]

Well here is what I have done, and hopefully someone can shed some light on where I am goin wrong!
As per the guide here is the math I came up with:
The entire contents of the DVD are 6,171,555,840 bytes.
All files (excluding the VTS_1_1.VOB - VTS_1_6.VOB movie files) add up to a total of 2,134,614,000 bytes. I took 6,171,555,840 - 2,134,614,000 and come up with 2,565,431,040. Then I have subtracted the AC3 audio that was extracted, about 350MB, and also subtracted approximately 100 MB for the subtitles. That brings me down to 2,115,053,824 left for the movie itself. As I understand the guide, I can then have CCE make the video stream equal to that number or less. I had CCE make the stream an even 2,000,000,000 bytes (give or take).
After CCE was done, I had an mpv and vaf file that equaled in size about 2,050,000,000 (total of both files added together).
Now, within Maestro, i added the output.m2v and chapters and ac3 audio per the guide. Then I replaced the output.m2v with output-drop.m2v, added the sub's, and then let maestro do its thing to a temp directory. After Maestro completes, I have about 4 GB worth of VOB's in this temp directory.
So, I understand it ISN'T supposed to be that big, but it is, and I can't figure out why???

PS. thanks for the quick replies Tano and Trilight.

[TRILIGHT]

EDIT: I have read your post again and now realize that what you posted is a typo.

It sounds as if you are doing things correctly. If you are using a 2GB video file and a 350MB audio file, there is no way that you are getting 4GB out of that. If so, your installation must be corrupted somehow. Did you actually purchase Maestro or buy an original copy of it from someone? Using a crappy cracked version is not only illegal but, from other reports I've seen, is highly susceptible to corruption and producing unexpected output.