Vertical Lines on MPG files

[rimmer2]

Used DVD2SVCD for the first time at the weekend, and I was blown away with the quality of the finished SVCDs, and everything worked - subtitles, chapters, change disk pic etc.
The only prob is tearing on the screen during action sequences, just like playing Direct3D or OpenGL games with vertical sync off. I was not sure if this is normal or not.
Having played the TMPENG .MPV2 file through media player, the tearing is not present, but it is there on the BBMPEG files, so at least I have narrowed it down a bit..
I used an older PC - AMD 1Ghz, 512ram, Geforce2MX, WINME - the process took 26hours! Is this normal?
Any help would be appreciated.


LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2DEC\MPEG2DEC.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\INVERS~1\DONALD~1\DECOMB.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.DLL")
mpeg2source("C:\MOVIES\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
BicubicResize(480,432,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
AvisynthSubtitler("C:\MOVIES\SUBS\","permsubs.txt")

WNASPI32.DLL 1.0.0.1
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- 23/11/2002 22:19:42
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.0 build 1a
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 23/11/2002 22:19:45
- Analyzing subtitles
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Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x22 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x23 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x24 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x25 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x20 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x21 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x26 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x27 Language: English

Executing subtitle selection/verification.
Subtitle selection/verification accepted.
1 subtitle streams selected.
Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 23/11/2002 22:22:49
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\movies\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob,D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob,D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob,D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob,D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 23/11/2002 22:28:48
- Free on drive C: 9589.23 mb
- Extracting the subtitles.
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Subtitle extraction finished. Extracted these subtitles:
SVCD Stream no: 1 Language: English Num. of subs: 37

Saving Subtitle Timecodes.
Permanent subtitles.
Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 23/11/2002 22:39:53
- Free on drive C: 9596.03 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x81
Filename: C:\movies\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 23/11/2002 22:47:26
- Free on drive C: 9408.36 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\movies\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\movies\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\MOVIES\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\MOVIES\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\movies\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 23/11/2002 23:05:39
- Free on drive C: 9283.15 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 23/11/2002 23:05:47
- Free on drive C: 9282.05 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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Saving Subtitle Timecodes.
Permanent subtitles.
- Encoding C:\movies\TitlePicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\tmpeng2\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\movies\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding C:\movies\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\tmpeng2\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\movies\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding C:\movies\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 2307292764
AudioSectors: 133109424
VideoPAPO: 33679260
ScanOffsetBytes: 184484
SeqAligningBytes: 11724970
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 2128594613.80
Seconds: 8208.28
CalcMPEGStream: 2128594613.80
Frames: 204982
CDSize: 740.00
Number of CDs: 3
Cut point 735.00
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\tmpeng2\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\movies\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

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- 25/11/2002 01:28:09
- Free on drive C: 7383.35 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\movies\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 25/11/2002 01:28:16
- Free on drive C: 7383.23 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\movies\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 25/11/2002 01:28:19
- Free on drive C: 7383.13 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 25/11/2002 01:28:21
- Free on drive C: 7383.09 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 735 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2910 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2912
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 735 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3017 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 5929
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 735 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 25/11/2002 01:50:20
- Free on drive C: 5319.34 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2912.808 seconds C:\movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3019.320 seconds C:\movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing: C:\movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
2269.632 seconds C:\movies\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 25/11/2002 01:52:58
- Free on drive C: 5319.27 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 22

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\MOVIES\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\MOVIES\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\MOVIES\VCDXBU~1.XML"
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- 25/11/2002 01:55:32
- Free on drive C: 4573.61 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 18

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\MOVIES\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="C:\MOVIES\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "C:\MOVIES\VCDXBU~2.XML"
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- 25/11/2002 01:58:04
- Free on drive C: 3828.43 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 13

CD image #3: CD_Image_File_CD3.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\MOVIES\CD_Image_File_CD3.cue" --bin-file="C:\MOVIES\CD_Image_File_CD3.bin" "C:\MOVIES\VCDXBU~3.XML"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 25/11/2002 02:00:08
- Free on drive C: 3225.85 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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[dvd2svcd]

If your source really is Interlaced, I suggest you either use "SeperateFields/SelectEvery" or "Keep Interlaced" as your deinterlacer. If your going to watch the SVCD on your TV use the latter option, if not use the former, but only if the source is interlaced.

[rimmer2]

OK thanks I will try that - I had used Telecine - following the guide at http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/articles/dvd2svcd.html , as it said this gave the best results. I am viewing the SVCD's on a TV.
All PAL DVD's are interlaced, are'nt they?

[dvd2svcd]

No, in Europe most DVD's are progressive (or looks progressive) however it's the opposite in Australia afaik. If you in the preview doesn't see vertical lines of any kind don't use any deinterlacers.

[rimmer2]

OK, the film is interlaced according to WinDVD4 info. (SWEPIIAOTC)
Reading a lot of the threads about deinterlacing, it seems there are some very different opinions. The view which seems to make sense to me is that DVD's should never be deinterlaced, as they wil display best on a TV and if playing on a PC you can use forcebob or forceweave to deinterlace 'on the fly' - what do you think of that?
Also can you please explain the difference between 'keep interlaced' and 'no deinterlacing' in DVD2SVCD? Are they the same thing as they sound pretty similar?
TIA

[dvd2svcd]

"No Deinterlace" is for Progressive Material (e.g. not interlaced)
"Keep Interlaced" is for interlaced material when you want to watch the movie on the TV. There's some specific settings needed for keeping interlaced. A better answer is in the Q&A somewhere where it's also described how to "Keep Interlaced" manually and still maintain the correct aspect ratio ;)