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iwod
19th November 2002, 13:58
since the quesion i ask will be very very newbies and stupid..

Which is the best codec to encode high quality Anime from DVD with the minium amount of space?? Is it RV9??
Because you are i read somewhere on the forums that you only encode anime, so i think you may be the right person to ask.
( I also read that you only use xvid only, so is that better?? )

I read on the filter thread, you said the bad quality on HKDVD, does that mean DVDs from Hong Kong??

Is it possible to encode 3.9Gb of DVD ( around 150min - 160 min )into a 700Mb file which has very little quality loss??

lamer_de
23rd November 2002, 00:24
Which is the best codec to encode high quality Anime from DVD with the minium amount of space?? Is it RV9??
I haven't worked with RV9, so i can't say if it's usefull for anime (everything with real in the name is suspect to me ;-) )
Most fansubbers still use DivX 3.11, with a growing amount of XVID encodes popping out. so xvid should be your choice, as it's easier to "learn" than divx.

I read on the filter thread, you said the bad quality on HKDVD, does that mean DVDs from Hong Kong??
Yes. They are mostly pirated ones with inferior image and especially sub quality (compared to region 1 dvds)


Is it possible to encode 3.9Gb of DVD ( around 150min - 160 min )into a 700Mb file which has very little quality loss??

No. It ain't possible with movies, so it's even more impossible with anime. If you can put 4 Eps (=80-90 min) with no great quality loss on a CD, you are already pretty good at encoding (imho)

CU,
lamer_de

lhoci
3rd December 2002, 01:17
Hello Lamer_De

You seem to have good knowledge in encoding Animes. Maybe you can give me advice how to back up my Anime DVd's that are more than 4.3 gigs (mostly the ones with 5 episodes) to a Standard Blank DVD+R disc with little quality loss. Any info will help.

ArdenDag
3rd December 2002, 04:41
I'm not quite an expert (only encoded 2 movies so far, and only to 700 MB AVI files, not VCDs or SVCDs yet), but I've noticed that with EVERYONE (and I mean everyone) quality is in the eye of the beholder. Some people will consider a 700 MB .avi encoded with 800 kbps bitrate a decent quality rip (I do) for the filesize, where other people will take no less than 1500 (pretty much 2 CDs with 160 kbps audio) for the quality of their backed up videos.

As for which codec, what filters to use, what settings, again, its what works and looks best TO YOU. Do some experimenting with different settings, see what you like best. Unless you intend to show your videos to tons of other people, you should only care about how good a video you've encoded looks to you. If the quality you get isn't up to par, change some settings, play around, all you are doing is taking up time :)

Personal preference will always supercede when someone asks 'what is best' which is why in the forum rules it tells you *NOT* to ask that question :)

My advice, just see what works

neosundile
3rd December 2002, 05:56
You guys look like you have experience in dealing with anime conversion, so can u do me a favor and take a look at a thread i made with a problem i am having? Any little key steps would be very usefull!

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=39028

Thx

ArdenDag
3rd December 2002, 06:33
Does it skew the video in your computer's DVD player?

neosundile
3rd December 2002, 07:14
The video looks perfect, when i play it using WINDVD on my computer.... Maybe its that SpruceUp program im using is causing this situation...

Hiro2k
3rd December 2002, 08:03
@ iwod

Encoding anime is one of the hardest things to encode. The Telecine is screwed up with alot of the anime's. IT's also hard to tell if the source originaly was 29.970 fps or 23.976 fps. But everyone else already covered the basics. The filters are up to you and the quality is again up to you. If you want to use more than 2 languages you are limited to using OGM. But that's not hard to use at all

Good Luck

Abond
3rd December 2002, 12:46
@iwod
Which is the best codec to encode high quality Anime from DVD with the minium amount of space?? Is it RV9??
I believe you should decide for yourself considering probably the following:
1. Easy to use
2. Costs
3. Availability of special features leading to better compressability
4. Performance at lower bitrates
5. Availability of additional software to enhance or automate the encoding.
6. Need for additional app's for best performance which might be not freely available.
About the filters I will suggest Convolution3D, UnFilter and probably DctFilter, maybe also Undot.

@neosundile
Because the ppl don't understand your problem. You wrote "stretched on DVDPLAYER". I usually use TV to look the picture:D . Therefore it must be "stretched on TV". And now it is time you to give some info about the TV (4:3, widescreen, HDTV). I have 4:3 TV and this type TVs has 786 horisontal pixels. Therefore DVD resolution (720) is always stretched horizontally and this is normal. You should probably write squeezed vertically. My doubts are that the settings of the TV and/or DVD Player are not correct. Try to adjust them regarding the video asspect ratio.

@lhoci
Split them to 2 DVD+R.

iwod
3rd December 2002, 18:11
that is the thing is bothering me........ to xvid or not...... i try it out myself and i can't see much difference..... but Real has good things and Xvid has its good things as well..... so i am :confused:

I can see the future of Xvid being very bright, people are constanly imroving it. While I have to wait and see how are the effects of opensources Helix.......... and i hate waiting.......:angry:

neosundile
3rd December 2002, 21:21
Originally posted by Abond
@iwod


@neosundile
Because the ppl don't understand your problem. You wrote "stretched on DVDPLAYER". I usually use TV to look the picture:D . Therefore it must be "stretched on TV". And now it is time you to give some info about the TV (4:3, widescreen, HDTV). I have 4:3 TV and this type TVs has 786 horisontal pixels. Therefore DVD resolution (720) is always stretched horizontally and this is normal. You should probably write squeezed vertically. My doubts are that the settings of the TV and/or DVD Player are not correct. Try to adjust them regarding the video asspect ratio.


Here is a link for my TV
http://shopping.yahoo.com/shop?d=ztvs&id=1990556292&clink=&cf=1

As for my Pioneer dv-333, it supports: 4:3 pan and scan, 4:3 letterbox, 16:9 widescreen

Im a newbie at this stuff, but cant i just set the resolution different to match my tv or are there specific resolution that can be set?
thx for any help

Abond
4th December 2002, 11:43
Well, I got a look at the TV, I have nearly the same (but Thomson). So from my TV I can also set 4:3, letterbox and 16:9. As your file is 4:3, you should set 4:3 pan in the player and the same in the TV. As your file work in PC then it should be OK.
Good luck.

neosundile
4th December 2002, 21:42
Thx for all your help Abond! But the gay thing about my TV is that it doesnt have a option to set it at 4:3 pan. But thx anyway!