SpruceUp and half D1 (352x576)

[dirk67]

Hi all,

I'm trying to author a half D1 movie in SpruceUp, but it doesn't seem to work. I could import it and make menus, and in the SpruceUp preview it played fine. I then exported it to a VIDEO_TS, but none of my Software players (as well as my standalone) played it. The menu, which is 720x576, played fine, but the movie was only garbage. I looked at the VIDEO_TS with Smartripper and IfoEdit, and both told me that my whole DVD was 720x576. I then used DVDPatcher to patch the VOBs to the correct resolution and IfoEdit to patch the IFOs. Now the structure looked right, but it still cannot be played.
Has anyone any idea how to do this? I don't want to waste more DVD-Rs, since my standalone cannot read DVD-RWs.

Thanks in advance,
Dirk

[murattttt]

Well, I tried some half dvd movies in my encodes, but they were just movies and nothing else(no menu no extra) and of course the ac3 file they were muxed with, they all played fine in my standalone( pioneer something).
I used Scenarist to prepare the vobs (but I don't think the others can't). And CCE to encode the m2v's.
Are you sure it was exactly half d1 pal movie with 352x576, 25 frames?
And btw why half d1? That is to say I only did them because they were too long (longer then 3 hrs at least) and I couldn't bother to cut them into 2 dvd-r's. But I do not recommend to do such a thing if they are not that long or just your camera's DV avis which are hell to compress than anything.

[dirk67]

@murattttt,

thanks for your reply. I also need this only for extra long movies or captures of old VHS tapes, where 720x576 does not make much difference. Could you please check with SmartRipper or IfoEdit, what the size of the VOBs and IFOs on these DVDs is?

Greetings,
Dirk

[auenf]

uhh, spruceup only supports 1 VTS, and iirc the DVD spec only lets you use one video format (which include compressor, frame size and aspect ratio) in each VTS.

so if your creating a 352x576 movie, you'll need a 352x576 menu.

now if spruceup supports half-d1 is another question altogether ;)

Enf...

[LB]

I didn't spend a lot of time thinking of the answer. But could you, if having import problems, patch the header? with dvdpatcher to a 720x480 resolution, import it, save the project, patch it back to your 352 resolution? That may solve any import problems.

Then, *could* you compile it with spurceup and then patch it again with ifoedit? I didn't look at all the features but it may be able to do what you are looking for if spurce is re-configuring some of the resolution flags in on the compile. May be what ya need, may not.

LB

[goldenrod]

Originally posted by auenf
uhh, spruceup only supports 1 VTS, and iirc the DVD spec only lets you use one video format (which include compressor, frame size and aspect ratio) in each VTS.

Enf...

Enf, are you sure about regarding DVD spec...i know for sure "The Sopranos" DVD menu is 4X3 and the movie is 16X9. Same compressor and frame size, however.

-GoldenRod

[jdobbs]

@goldenrod

That probably means that the menu was set for pan-and-scan and it choped off the outer edges...

[auenf]

the menu was either shown pan/scan as jdobbs mentions, or it is in a different VTS to the move (episodes).

Enf...

[goldenrod]

Originally posted by auenf

so if your creating a 352x576 movie, you'll need a 352x576 menu.

Enf...

@Enf,

How do you create a 352X576 menu? I tried a few apps. (Maestro, DVDit, SpruceUp, Scenarist) they don't seem to do the job. What app do you use to create half D1 DVDs?

GoldenRod

[jdobbs]

Just create the .BMP files using MS Paint or Photoshop or whatever at at 352x480 (or 352x576) resolution. I usually create them at 720x480 and then resize... Or if you want moving menus you can create an M2V.