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kxy
7th January 2003, 18:35
Originally posted by Koepi
@DeXt:

Did i send you the backup creator sources last year? Maybe we should think about adding it to mode2cdmaker GUI and support (at least) OGM for now with it. OGM specs are fine and not suspect to change, as well as mp3 id3|v2 tags are.
Just my 2 cents,
Koepi

Isn't this what avih strongly against? I believed he said that: what is the point of the tool if the backup system hasn't being finished yet.

avih
7th January 2003, 23:15
hi there.. been some time offline...

the backup creator IS ready (by koepi, several months ago), but we haven't tested it yet, (the dshow filter doesn't support it yet, although the latest alphas have the foundations and some perliminary code segments for this task).

unfortunately, since it's taken me so much time to [do almost nothing and] release the latest sources, i feel i can no longer have a strong saying on this project (dext on the other hand, has been working on better versions of the maker tool).

i've sent all the sources, documents, etc that i had (including koepi's), orgenized in a directory structure, and build instructions for the various tools, the latest spec, text files, etc (released by dext as the latest alpha).

of course, if ppl that want to work on the code need any kind of advice/explenations/help/etc, i'll be more than welcome to help.

cheers
avi

alexnoe
19th January 2003, 18:26
Is there a problem with CCD output if the output image size is more than 80min?
I have one...the disc doesn't read properly after 80 mins :(

In the explorer, the drive stops reading at 80min. In CloneCD, everything beyond 80min is padded to zero when reading the disc.

On the CD in question, I have only lost the last bit of the opendml-index of the french audio stream (german and english is intact), so i can rebuild the index if necessary, but it's not nice.

Of course, all my drives can read overburned discs, and the burner can also overburn properly.

alexnoe
21st January 2003, 18:12
When adding too many files in the GUI, the command line is getting too long, and the dos box throws an error.

What about using a text file which contains all files to be added?

DeXT
21st January 2003, 18:29
Hi there agaon, sorry for the delay.

Originally posted by alexnoe
Is there a problem with CCD output if the output image size is more than 80min?
I have one...the disc doesn't read properly after 80 mins :( I suspected this may occurr, it's probably related to the subchannel data (I heard the sector addresses vary from 79:59.74), I'll take a look at it.

When adding too many files in the GUI, the command line is getting too long, and the dos box throws an error.

What about using a text file which contains all files to be added?Yes this is one of my to-do's, it should be very easy to add, though. Meanwhile you can use wildcards which shorten the command line drammatically.

example: -d player -f c:\bsplayer\*.* -d player\filters -f c:\bsplayer\filters\*.*

I'll work on it ASAP. If you want to make your own additions, you are welcomed ;)

DeXT

alexnoe
21st January 2003, 18:44
The absolute sector addresses should be:
00:02:00
00:02:01
...
...
79:59:74
80:00:00
80:00:01
...
...
99:59:74
A0:00:00 (yes, indeed "A0")
A0:00:01
...

But around 80min, there should not be anything unusual...

raistlin2k
29th January 2003, 17:09
Hi folks!

Sorry for being so long away, hope you missed me :)
Had too much work at university & lots of work as sys-admin at different organizations where I work besides study.

Now back to topic:

If backup-creator is ready & it's specs are settled, why wait for the DS-filter?? I mean till now we canno't create & play such secured XCDs, but why not start creating such discs before ability to play them??

It's the old story of chicken & egg, I guess.
Because in my opinion, more guys would help working on future improvements if XCD was really started!!

Till now, I can create XCD's, without backup, they might get corrupt one day.

But with the Backup-creator released, I can create secure files, which can be played without the backup-supporting DS-Filter until the header gets corrupt. Then I'll have to wait for the DS-filter! But till now, I didn't make a single backup using XCD, only test samples, since I'm afraid to loose all my work in CRC-errors!

SO, please add the backup-creator so I can use it for mastering, community can wait for the DS-filter until their XCDs get errors, but whole XCD-system is useless without backup-creator.

Thanks
Raist

P.S: It's good to be back. Since I have been so long away, I don't have time to read all new postings since last visit, any news on the XCD-menu-system? Any comments on my proposed spec-file??

Shootist
30th January 2003, 21:21
Hi,
is there a GUI for dat2file.exe from the Mode2CDmaker? Would be cool to have an easy one. Maybe someone could write one quickly?

alexnoe
30th January 2003, 21:32
If you want to extract an AVI file => AVI-Mux GUI can do this (just open the file and right-click)

DeXT
2nd February 2003, 00:29
Originally posted by alexnoe
Is there a problem with CCD output if the output image size is more than 80min?
I have one...the disc doesn't read properly after 80 mins :(
It's fixed. Probably due to a signed/unsigned bug on raw96.c, sectors above 80:00.00 had a bad CRC on the subchannel data. Anyways I replaced the CRC calc function with the one found on cdrdao, just to be sure.

My current 1.5.1 WIP should work fine with these now. Get it here:

http://es.geocities.com/dextstuff/wip.zip


Originally posted by raistlin2k
SO, please add the backup-creator so I can use it for mastering, community can wait for the DS-filter until their XCDs get errors, but whole XCD-system is useless without backup-creator.
I know, I know. This is on my to-do.

P.S: It's good to be back. Since I have been so long away, I don't have time to read all new postings since last visit, any news on the XCD-menu-system? Any comments on my proposed spec-file??
Sorry, none yet AFAIK. Personally I haven't got much time for this, as I'm mostly focused on the file system area.

mfluder
2nd February 2003, 04:35
Originally posted by Shootist
Hi,
is there a GUI for dat2file.exe from the Mode2CDmaker? Would be cool to have an easy one. Maybe someone could write one quickly?
I just read this post and wrote a GUI in 5 minutes. You have to put it in the same dir with dat2file.exe. It's attached below.

mfluder

DeXT
2nd February 2003, 20:38
Pretty nice. I uploaded it to my webpage. Thank you!

http://webs.ono.com/de_xt

DeXT

MaTTeR
3rd February 2003, 01:05
GUI works great, thx alot.

Hi DeXT :-)
Is it possible to extract just a snip or portion of the DAT file? It would be nice to select a certain number of frames, MB or minutes of the file somehow instead of the entire thing.

mfluder
3rd February 2003, 01:34
Thanks DeXT, I really appreciate that. And thank you for all your great work on mode2 cd maker.

mfluder

Shootist
3rd February 2003, 06:33
I just read this post and wrote a GUI in 5 minutes. You have to put it in the same dir with dat2file.exe. It's attached below.

mfluder



Thanks!

alexnoe
3rd February 2003, 11:22
@Matter: This would not serve for any purpose (except of creating an abolutely invalid and headerless excerpt of an AVI file). Changing anything in the contents of an AVI file requires the file to be remuxed.

MaTTeR
8th February 2003, 03:21
Originally posted by alexnoe
Changing anything in the contents of an AVI file requires the file to be remuxed. Uhgg...well that's no good then. Does the same apply to OGM files though? I'm just thinking out loud here;)

alexnoe
8th February 2003, 03:28
Another thing:
http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~noe/Mode2/

New command line:

mode2cdmaker -paramfile params.txt

DeXT
11th February 2003, 17:33
Very nice. I will add this to the next release. The GUI can also benefit from it, avoiding the long command line problem. I will suggest it to UbiK, so he can add support for it in the next GUI release.

raistlin2k
23rd February 2003, 19:24
Maybe we should think about adding it to mode2cdmaker GUI and support (at least) OGM for now with it. OGM specs are fine and not suspect to change, as well as mp3 id3|v2 tags are

YES, PLEASE DO SO!!! Really want to start burning XCDs savely now using OGM (WHAT ELSE??)


Yes I got a copy of your sources, and the last ones are published on the latest XCD filter "alpha" sources package

So could someone compile the source for backup-creator, please?!?

Thanks in advance
Raist

P.S: Really don't want to be inpolite, hope I didn't make this impression to someone, just want to have a first look at backup-creator. Thanks again

jurij
25th February 2003, 12:02
@DeXT

Hi DeXT.
I wanted to advice you that an xbox media player is out and it's supports almost any media a pc can play.
The authors are starting to port the xcd filter to playback.
if you would like to give them any help you can find them on IRC, on efnet/#xbplayer
you can contact _frodo_ or Runtime or d7o3g4q
all the info about the player are on:
http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/newweb/info_project.htm
we all hope you can give help!!!
Thanx to you all!!!

raistlin2k
25th February 2003, 12:12
XCD on X-Box, great news, since XCD is moving towards a new platform, although I wouldn't buy CRAP as X-Box, but obviously there are a lot of guys buying such shit.

About backup-creator-compile: Got VS.NET now, can I use this to compile the source, and how? If not, what do I need to do so.
Please excuse the stupidness of an old Turbo Pascal user, I only know how to compile files in TP7:o

Thanks for help in advance
Raist

Kurtnoise
31st October 2003, 19:39
Hi all !!

Is this tool could be compatible with MKV/MKA files ???.....It will be great ;)

Shootist
1st November 2003, 22:16
of course, every container format with an error correction is compatible. (correct me if I am wrong)