DVD-R made in Singapore verses Japan ?

[kevinswystun]

I record using a Pioneer 104 with 1.33 firmware. When I use Pioneer DVD-R disks made in Singapore they play perfectly on my Samsung stand-alone player.

But, Pioneer DVD-R disks made in Japan skip, freeze and pause. Both disks are labeled with the same part # (DVS-R47A/U).

But, ADVDInfo, the program that identifies the manufacturer and pre-recorded lead-in information shows a few deferences between the two disks.

- OPC(Optimum Power Calibration)Code
Singapore =87
Japan =89

- Wavelength Code
Singapore =0D
Japan =0E

- Manufacturer ID
Singapore =MCC 00..RG2
Japan =PVC001..001

Obviously the Singapore disks are the most desirable for me, but lately I have not been able to fine them anywhere.

Which of the (3) values listed above is the most important when in comes to having the movie play on a stand-alone with out the skips and freezes? My gut tells me it’s the Wavelength Code, something to do with the Samsung lasers’ inability to track properly.

[gooki]

Going by the description:

Singapore =MCC 00..RG2

Looks as though you have Ritek Generation 2 discs, so if you look for Ritek discs instead of discs "made in singapore" you may have more luck.

[wfn1]

no, the MCC stands for Mitsubishi Chemical Corp, so those discs should be identical to Verbatim DataLifePlus

[gooki]

Lol thanks for correcting me.

[kevinswystun]

wfn1 , Thank you. “You are correct sir”. Your help and the program ADVDInfo have ended a frustration.

Apple.com was not selling re-branded Pioneer disks as Apples, as was touted in this forum or at less not in the Millipedes, CA USA. They were re-branded Verbatim disks, a fact which I did not know. And when in my last order, they really were re-branded Pioneer disks and all I could tell was the exterior markings were deferent. Two RMA’s returned via UPS (refunds still outstanding) latter, well lets just say the tension mounted.

But now I’ve found Verbatim DataLifePlus disk as you pointed out, they have the same exterior marks and play perfectly in my stand-alone.

[wfn1]

You're most welcome. Another thing is you can find Verbatim's for cheaper than Apple or Pioneer discs. I saw them on pricewatch for around $2.70 ea. in packs of 25.

[marcovan]

To be honest, I don't think any specific type of DVD-R media matters. There are just too many variables that are involved in all this. For example, tons of people complain about the OPTODISCS DVD-R
but I have not had a single problem with them. In the reverser, lots of people praise ESBUY gold and I have a ton of problems with them.

Each indidivual setup is different and each one should find the one that works for them. I don't thing if they are made in Japan or Singapore is the difference.

Just my .02 cents.

[kevinswystun]

Marcovan ; Thanks you responding.

Well I can’t agree with your first statement “I don't think any specific type of DVD-R media matters”. For instance, the problem you pointed out, of some people complaining about the OPTODISCS DVD-R disks and others having no problem with the these disks, is a perfect example.

Given that after, ripping, encoding and authoring the movie plays fine on a software player (i.e. PowerDVD) the problem must be the incompatibility between the disk and stand-alone. Because today’s burning programs can handle the UFD/ISO files correctly, meaning if you have the latest update, you can relie on a good burn.

You are right that the location the disk is made (i.e. Japan verse Singapore) makes no difference. My theory is, what makes a difference is the Wavelength code. Please see my post here.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37468

Hope this helps someone who is frustrated just like I was.

[wfn1]

it's not just the wavelength code that matters, it's also the reflectivity of the media, the quality of the substrate, organic dye and the metalizer layer. also, the drive you use and the firmware revision have alot to do with it.