Problem with the picture quality

[Stratyon]

I don't know how to explain this, so look at the pictures.
The first one shows how the movie from D2S looks. The colours are weird and the resolution seemes lower then it's supposed to.
The second one shows how the movie was supposed to look.
http://www.stratyon.com/stuff/1.jpg
http://www.stratyon.com/stuff/2.jpg
It looks a bit like it was ripped with lower colour resolution then it's supposed to.
Anyone knows why it's like this? D2S worked fine before and I've ripped entire movies without any problems but now even the movies that worked before gets like this. Did I trip a setting I shouldn't have or something?

Here's the log:

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- 04.11.2002 00:18:22
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 04.11.2002 00:18:25
- Free on drive F: 41907.64 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob

Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 11341

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- 04.11.2002 00:18:44
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Programfiler\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Programfiler\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\VTS_01_1.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 04.11.2002 00:18:59
- Free on drive F: 41707.64 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -32 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 04.11.2002 00:19:26
- Free on drive F: 41702.92 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Programfiler\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ota( -d -32 ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m j )
Audio conversion of F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 04.11.2002 00:21:28
- Free on drive F: 41695.63 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Frameserver.
Closing program

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 834285788
AudioSectors: 5277804
VideoPAPO: 12841776
ScanOffsetBytes: 5368
SeqAligningBytes: 341141
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 0.00
PureMPEGStream: 815819695.60
Seconds: 185.92
CalcMPEGStream: 815819695.60
Frames: 4473
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 796.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 4473
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 25
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 2230
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\INVERS~1\DONALD~1\decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
SimpleResize(480,576)
Flipvertical()
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 0.180
Video Encoding finished.

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- 04.11.2002 01:43:48
- Free on drive F: 41032.56 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Programfiler\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 04.11.2002 01:43:50
- Free on drive F: 41032.56 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Programfiler\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 04.11.2002 01:43:53
- Free on drive F: 41032.56 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Programfiler\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 0
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 0 seconds
Cut point: 796 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Programfiler\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

CD-Image creation finished.

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- 04.11.2002 01:44:11
- Free on drive F: 40979.04 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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Thanx for any help
~Strat

[markrb]

It doesn't seem that terribly bad. Remember you are dropping the bitrate by 3/4.

However try these things.

Raise you Min bitrate to 800 on this movie.
Drop your Image Quality Priority to 20.
Try using Bicubic resize instead of simple.

Give those settings a try.

Mark

[Stratyon]

Trying to encode with those settings changed and with just parts of them changed made no difference. Here's the current log:

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- 05.11.2002 02:27:08
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 05.11.2002 02:27:11
- Free on drive F: 41288.35 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob

Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 4978

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- 05.11.2002 02:27:53
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Programfiler\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Programfiler\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\VTS_01_1.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 05.11.2002 02:28:10
- Free on drive F: 41087.73 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -32 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 05.11.2002 02:28:46
- Free on drive F: 41082.82 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Programfiler\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ota( -d -32 ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m j )
Audio conversion of F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 05.11.2002 02:31:20
- Free on drive F: 41074.84 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Frameserver.
Closing program

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 834285788
AudioSectors: 5277804
VideoPAPO: 12841776
ScanOffsetBytes: 5368
SeqAligningBytes: 341141
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 0.00
PureMPEGStream: 815819695.60
Seconds: 185.92
CalcMPEGStream: 815819695.60
Frames: 4473
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 796.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 4473
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 800
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 2230
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\INVERS~1\DONALD~1\decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
BicubicResize(480,576,0,0.75)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 0.190
Video Encoding finished.

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- 05.11.2002 03:52:49
- Free on drive F: 40973.68 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Programfiler\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 05.11.2002 03:52:51
- Free on drive F: 40973.68 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Programfiler\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 05.11.2002 03:52:53
- Free on drive F: 40973.68 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Programfiler\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 0
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 0 seconds
Cut point: 796 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Programfiler\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "F:\Movies\Divx\DVDrip\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

CD-Image creation finished.

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- 05.11.2002 03:53:13
- Free on drive F: 40920.14 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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I've also tried reinstalling the entire program with no change...
This is so confusing... :-(
Oh and it is pretty bad. The "correct" picture was taken from a DivX rip I did from the same DVD for a different reason, and so isn't as high quality as the original DVD, and the SVCD should be as good.
But it wouldn't be that bad if it weren't for the colours...

[markrb]

May sound crazy, but try not de-interlacing it.
You may also want to try TMPG instead of CCE for this one.

Lastly if you feel like playing get Donald Grafts Tweak filter for Avisynth. I use it all the time and it's great. It allows you to asjust the hue, saturation, tint and a bunch of other settings.

It might just be one of those DVD's that is very hard to convert to SVCD.

Mark

[Dam0]

i had worse results using cce with two different laptop processors.

the solution for Laptop users is Tpmg . works fine now .

Damien

[Stratyon]

I don't have the problem with TMPGEnc, but the quality I get from it is not as good as I originally got from CCE