CQ value messing up cd size..?

[MatrixFace]

Hello all, I am just wondering if any of you have experienced this issue.

DVD2SVCD tries to pick the correct CQ value and then ends up failing to cut properly as a 1:39 movie ends up as let us say 749mb for cd1 and 935mb for cd2. I noticed in the log file that it tried to use a CQ value of 91??

Any input on this? It has happened more than once.

[markrb]

So where is that log file?
Use cut and paste, not attach.

Mark

[MatrixFace]

That log file..hmm.
Well, I assume it gets overwritten upon the next rip yes? If that is the case that log file is toast. Also, I cannot cut and paste as it's on another box.

[markrb]

Without that log file there is little we can do. It's a little text file just throw it on a floppy, open it up in notepad and simply cut and paste it if you have it.


Mark

[MatrixFace]

OK I will see what i can pull up and paste in here.

[MatrixFace]

OK here is the log file in full.
Cd1 was 745mb
Cd2 was 916mb

Key found: C000000001
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- 11/2/2002 10:00:58 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 11/2/2002 10:01:02 AM
- Free on drive C: 36558.10 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob

Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 2477

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- 11/2/2002 10:29:03 AM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_1.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_2.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_3.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_4.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film activated!
Framerate: 23976
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 11/2/2002 10:32:39 AM
- Free on drive C: 32496.11 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 11/2/2002 10:38:12 AM
- Free on drive C: 32364.58 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 11/2/2002 10:55:22 AM
- Free on drive C: 32276.89 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 11/2/2002 10:55:30 AM
- Free on drive C: 32276.89 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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- Encoding C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPGEnc\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

Pointers: 2926
- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
StreamSectors: 1540983976
AudioSectors: 93299304
VideoPAPO: 22425408
ScanOffsetBytes: 123997
SeqAligningBytes: 7880673
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 1417254586.60
Seconds: 5753.33
CalcMPEGStream: 1417254586.60
Frames: 137774
CDSize: 740.00
Cut point 735.00
Calculated Quality Value: 80.00
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,480)
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPGEnc\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
StreamSectors: 1540983976
AudioSectors: 93299304
VideoPAPO: 22425408
ScanOffsetBytes: 123997
SeqAligningBytes: 7880673
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 1417254586.60
Seconds: 5753.33
CalcMPEGStream: 1417254586.60
Frames: 137774
CDSize: 740.00
Cut point 735.00
Test Clip: Got MB per Frame: 5646.4695
Test Clip: Want MB per Frame: 10286.8072829416
Test Clip: CQ per Frame: 0.0141681452454494
Test Clip: New CQ value: 145.744979696664
Test Clip3: Calculated CQ value: 112.872489848332
Calculated Quality Value: 112.87
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,480)
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPGEnc\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
StreamSectors: 1540983976
AudioSectors: 93299304
VideoPAPO: 22425408
ScanOffsetBytes: 123997
SeqAligningBytes: 7880673
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 1417254586.60
Seconds: 5753.33
CalcMPEGStream: 1417254586.60
Frames: 137774
CDSize: 740.00
Cut point 735.00
Test Clip: Got MB per Frame: 11939.6655
Test Clip: Want MB per Frame: 10286.8072829416
Test Clip: CQ per Frame: 0.00945357220001949
Test Clip: New CQ value: 97.247075356975
Test Clip2: Calculated CQ value: 105.059782602653
Calculated Quality Value: 105.06
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,480)
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPGEnc\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
StreamSectors: 1540983976
AudioSectors: 93299304
VideoPAPO: 22425408
ScanOffsetBytes: 123997
SeqAligningBytes: 7880673
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 1417254586.60
Seconds: 5753.33
CalcMPEGStream: 1417254586.60
Frames: 137774
CDSize: 740.00
Cut point 735.00
Test Clip: Got MB per Frame: 11886.8545
Test Clip: Want MB per Frame: 10286.8072829416
Test Clip: CQ per Frame: 0.00883831652878846
Test Clip: New CQ value: 90.9180588372845
Test Clip1: Calculated CQ value: 97.9889207199689
Calculated Quality Value: 97.99
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,480)
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPGEnc\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 1540983976
AudioSectors: 93299304
VideoPAPO: 22425408
ScanOffsetBytes: 123997
SeqAligningBytes: 7880673
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 1417254586.60
Seconds: 5753.33
CalcMPEGStream: 1417254586.60
Frames: 137774
CDSize: 740.00
Cut point 735.00
Test Clip: Got MB per Frame: 11759.532
Test Clip: Want MB per Frame: 10286.8072829416
Test Clip: CQ per Frame: 0.0083327228260418
Test Clip: New CQ value: 85.7171138536607
Test Clip0: Calculated CQ value: 91.8530172868148
Using Quality Value: 98.30
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,480)
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPGEnc\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

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- 11/2/2002 4:20:45 PM
- Free on drive C: 30736.83 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 11/2/2002 4:20:48 PM
- Free on drive C: 30736.82 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 11/2/2002 4:20:53 PM
- Free on drive C: 30736.82 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 735 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2537 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2539
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 735 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 11/2/2002 4:34:32 PM
- Free on drive C: 29098.36 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2539.990 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3206.975 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 11/2/2002 4:35:56 PM
- Free on drive C: 29098.36 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 10

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
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- 11/2/2002 4:39:11 PM
- Free on drive C: 28353.36 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 13

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 11/2/2002 4:43:24 PM
- Free on drive C: 27437.32 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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[hoozdapimp]

tmpg is known for these problems...try using cce instead or maybe updating to the latest version of tmpge

[markrb]

I agree with hoozdapimp, but was pretty sure most of this was solved.
Make sure you are using the latest version of TMPG.

If you want to avoid the possibility of this happening again and still want to use TMPG as your encoder then use CBR instead of CQ.


A note on your audio setting. 128 is very low and many stand alones have issues with this bitrate. If you want to insure that the SVCD will work on most units raise the audio to at least 160 if not 192.
Also most times there is no need to downsample the audio. 90% of DVD players play 48 audio just dandy and this will save you a bit of time encoding the audio.

Are you using 74 minute cd's? Your cutpoint is set at 740 and if you have 80 minute cd's you should be setting it at 800 on the bitrate tab.

Mark

[MatrixFace]

OK, I have switched off downsampling and moved the audio up to 192 (previous, were the defaults).

I have also moved all my cut points to 800 and will continue to try CQ to see if it makes any difference with the end result. Thx guys.

One more question for you: Does DVD2SVCD support .jpg image files for the title and switch cd pictures? If so or not what does the size need to be for custom pics.

[markrb]

I do believe it supports jpg images, but it might be gif. I honestly forget.

If you do a search I am sure the answer will show itself as to type and size. This has been covered in better detail then I could answer.

Mark

[dvd2svcd]

jpg, gif and bmp is all supported, and size doesn't matter.