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jazzie
30th October 2002, 01:44
WOW! :)
Burned @ 2x using the Princos! after upgrading my 104 to 1.33 with patch
Brought the DVD to Good Guys and it played in all standalones my 1x burn plays in.
Played and viewed the last chapter on a 43" plasma monitor and DVD played fine.
No Pixilation or audio drop outs. Played to the end! ( 4.2 GB DVD )
Hmmm :sly: ...at $. 80 delivered, Princos are a bargain , especially at 2X
These discs have been real stable at 1x....now let push 'em to the max! ;)
a104 1.33 ( w/ 2x 4 all )
nero 5590
Princo ( light purple w/ white top )
jesoonster
30th October 2002, 07:38
watch out......
lots of my 1X discs burn at 2X.......some work like a charm, others pixellate. Be very careful and check each burn one by one before jumping to conclusions....
klona
30th October 2002, 18:23
My Bulkbaq Gen3 (PRINCO-R1-0) are burning at X2 and gives no I/O error if i rip in my DVDROM-116 and of course in my A03
But, the same image, burned @X1 run fine in my standalone, and not at all @X2 in worst case (No disc error) or pixelate at the end (in the best case)
jazzie
31st October 2002, 00:15
jesoonster.....I know, I'm taking a chance on the 2x.
Been real stable with the 1x burn...but it is very tempting to go for the 2x burn.
Have you had pixilation with 2x burns on 1x media? What media?
bouis
31st October 2002, 12:28
I burned ten "Princo 1x" at 2x.
My results (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35889).
My conclusion: 60% worked on everything, although all of the discs were readable in the burner and a DVD-ROM. They work, but not well enough to be worth your trouble. Other people have reported better luck (robshot, etc; while others share my findings: klona), but it seems that I'm the only person who's using the full 4.38 GB on every test disc.
jazzie
1st November 2002, 05:18
bouis...
good data with your 10 princo burns. on the 4 that don't work in the standalone DVD player, will the disc not even spool up? as if no disc is in the player.
or does the disc play, but pixilate at various parts. If pixilation occurs, does it occur toward the end outer edge of the DVD?
Let me know what those 4 disc do or don't do having been burned at 2x.
thanks
bouis
1st November 2002, 11:21
They simply didn't work.
99% of the time, you can tell if a disc will "pixelate" or "skip" on a set-top player by the speed that it rips on a DVD-ROM. For this purpose, all of my DVD-Rs are burned with an SFV file for verification purposes. This lets you copy every file without actually writing them to your harddisk.
Find what your average reading time is for a full disc (mine is 9 minutes, 10 seconds) and note how long it takes to verify each disc. Two of the ten burned at 2x took nearly 15 minutes to verify; neither worked in the set-top player, but two others which ripped at normal speed didn't work either, so this isn't foolproof.
Ritek media are a similar case. None of the ones I tried would give a "disc error," although all of those filled beyond 4.00 GB would "skip" at the end of the disc.
jazzie
2nd November 2002, 21:33
yep bouis...... 2x not stable enough
Finally got a 2x burn to be coaster! Burned a Princo 1x at 2x and nero showed
a succesful burn. However the DVD would not even play in the Pioneer 104 nor my
Lite on DVD rom.
So that makes me 3 for 4 of succesful 2x burns on the Princo 1x
The burn was a full disc ( 4.27 gig) and took a total of 40 min during the 2x burn.
Redid the burn at 1x and it took 55 min.
I'm back to 1x on these discs, as the 15 minutes 'saved' isn't worth the chance of
coasters.
Just my findings .....
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