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presby72
23rd October 2002, 17:00
this is a working remux method for tmpgenc and ifoedit.

1.rip the entire movie to HD

2.use ifoedit to stirp everything expect the langauge you wish.

3.use vob splitter to remove the opening studio screen, and the ratings screen, these screens are what throw the audio out of sync.
open vob splitter and press check file once this is complete pres the split vob button for the first vob only (THIS IS THE 1st VOB IN THE NEW FOLDER WITH THE STRIPED MOVIE THAT YOU CREATED WITH IFOEDIT) then follow the instructions that the program gives,(very easy). when it is finished open the folder that contains your movie, (not the original movie but the striped one done in the step before w/ifoedit, and in this folder you will see your movie vob's plus some new ones. open the new vob's and play them in power dvd delete the studio logo and ratings screen. these wil be small files approx. 8-9 MB then play the big file created to make sure that it has the movie. finally delete the VTS 1_1.VOB file and rename the large file just created for you by vob splitter to the name of the file you just deleted.

4.open the vts1_1.ifo w/ifoedit and press create tmpgtmp button,it will run through once completly, but you are not finshed yet, you must then highlight one of the IBPPIBB... frames returned after the first pass by simply clicking on it once. then press ok and ifoedit will go thru the process once agin this time it will create a usable template.

5.create a dvd2avi project as specified in Doom9's guides.

6.load the dvd2avi project in Tmpgenc. (if you don't have the option to load this type of project or it says file type unsupported, you must go to the folder which contains dvd2avi and copy the dvd2avi.vfp file and place in your tmpgenc file. now you will be able to open the dvd2avi project.

7.follow the doom9 guide for the proper settings in tmpgenc,

8.load the template, which will freeze your computer for a minute or two.

9.click ok on the screen once the template is loaded then ok to close the previous screen. and press encode. wait a few hours.

11.re-mux with ifoedit use the doom9 guides to help with this.

12. create an image file with ifoedit, (you must download imgtool and place it in the same folder as ifoedit in order for this function to work in ifoedit), you can find it in the doom9 download section.
burn with what ever software supports dvd.img files

If every is done right you will have a great quality picture and in sync audio!!!

This is something I came up with after stuggling myself to understand exactly how everything worked. If you have any questions post them and I will try to repsond in a timely manner.

rmtaibo
24th October 2002, 02:01
presby72:

Did you make NTSC copies sucessfully with this method?

Chumboy
24th October 2002, 03:20
where do you set the encoding bitrate so the final output will fit on one 4.7gig?

presby72
24th October 2002, 13:12
To: rmtaibo


Yes all of the movies that I have copied have been NTSC.

presby72
24th October 2002, 13:15
To Chumboy

I usually set the CBR around 4500 for a two hour movie and that will return about a 4 gig .m2v file for remux, remeber your final size after the remux can't go above 4.37 GIG

Chumboy
24th October 2002, 13:33
presby72

tmpg saves the file out as a .mpg

i changed this extension to .m2v and tried to remux with ifoedit...it gave me a "video not synced" error and didn't allow me to remux.

any thoughts?

presby72
24th October 2002, 13:48
Chumboy

Don't use the the wizard that pops up when you first open tmpg, you need to follow the doom9 guide and make manual settings, when you press the settings button you get a new box that appears the first tab is video and under that you will see video streanm setting select MPEG-2 Video

Chumboy
24th October 2002, 16:47
i did that and it wants to save the file as .mpg

rmtaibo
25th October 2002, 01:28
Originally posted by Chumboy
i did that and it wants to save the file as .mpg
Chumboy:
Maybe you checked this but you must click in "ES Video Only" @ Stream Type", not "System Video Only". The first one will save your file as m2v, the second will save it as mpg...

Chumboy
25th October 2002, 14:47
found the problem...
after making all the settings, i was clicking the large "Start" button at the top. this would save as .mpg.

instead, go to File, output file, mpeg...and it will save it as .d2v

Stress_analyst
25th October 2002, 20:54
To presby72

Question 1: What version of Ifoedit are you using for creating the
Tmpeg template and are you selecting I,B and P Frames?
Question 2: What version of dvd2avi are you using and are you
selecting “Forced Film”?
Question 3: Finally what versions of Tmpeg and Ifoedit are you using
for remixing?

I hope that this is IT for NTSC films…

Thank you,

The Analyst

rmtaibo
26th October 2002, 21:32
Originally posted by presby72
To Chumboy

I usually set the CBR around 4500 for a two hour movie and that will return about a 4 gig .m2v file for remux, remeber your final size after the remux can't go above 4.37 GIG

presby72:

Did you try your method with VBR MPEG-2 in TMPGEnc?
If CBR works and VBR not maybe we're talking about VBV buffer under/overflow... (Maybe I'm smoking green grass...) :p

Chumboy
26th October 2002, 22:09
it worked, but as every thread has said....

the video/voice get out of sync as the movie plays.

great looking video, but alas, it doesn't work.

back to rempeg2.

chum

Lerch
27th October 2002, 23:54
Hi everybody. I've done a lot of test with IFOedit/TMPGenc, and finally I have found the way to make a perfect job (I work with PAL movies). First, you have to know that not only the version of IFOedit used for the process is important, but also the version of TMPGenc and your O.S.
All you have to do is follow the Doom9 guide, but you must use IFOedit 0.88 to make the Template (normaly, you don't have to stop/restart after few seconds), and it's very important to use IFOedit 0.88 for the Remux too.

At this point, if you have problems yet, try using TMPGenc vers. 2.53 Plus, because some versions (specially last version, 2.58) can cause problems with IFOedit.

Finally, XP is the reason if we have problems again (but not always, I know some guys that works with XP/IFOedit/TMPGenc without problems; I really don't know why with someone yes and someone no... mah...)

I hope this help...

Chumboy
28th October 2002, 01:20
lerch,

sounds good...i'll give it a try.

movie: braveheart
ntsc format
using ifoedit .88
tmpge 2.5 plus
windows xp

seems that the cards are stacked against me (xp probably being the problem...but i'm not switching from xp which is the best os since warp os2).

one more thing...where in tmpge do you tell it to lower the bitrate? And how do you calculate the number you enter into tmpge? Is it the "Rate Control Mode" section...and the Settings button on the same line? That settings popup seems to have a slider bar.

sorry to ask rather than spend time myself playing with it...jobs kicking my tail and i don't have as much time as i used to to play with the new techniques.

i'll let you know.

chum

Lerch
28th October 2002, 14:28
Hi Chumboy, as I told you, I work with PAL movie, so I don't know if the process will be ok also with NTSC... But I have a copy of Aliens Reg. 1 NTSC and I'll try with this when I'll find a bit of time...

For your questions about TMPGenc's settings, the average bitrate is the value for lowing the bitrate. You must set this value (first of all, select "2 pass VBR (VBR)" in "Rate control mode", than press the button "setting" in the same line), and DVD-R Calculator will tell you what is the correct average to fit into 4.3 GB.

So, follow DOOM9 guides about it:


http://www.doom9.org/mpg/tmpg-dvdencoding.htm

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/ifoedit-multiangle.htm

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/dvdr-calc.htm

Regards.

Chumboy
29th October 2002, 00:30
didn't work.

major stuttering, pausing, audio out of sync.

pitiful.

back to rempeg2.

bummer.

chum:(