Problem Deleting 4:3 Format

[bruce1271]

Ok, So I am following this "How to put a dual aspect ratio movie onto a DVD-R". The only thing I want to do is get rid of a format, say 4:3. I deleted all the VTS_3 files(These are the 4:3) format. I loaded ifoedit and opened video_ts.ifo. I clicked "Get VTS sectors" The tool said would you liek to process all .ifo, I clicked yes. It looked like it only prcossed 1 .ifo and finished. I loaded up ProDVD and loaded the video_ts.ifo and it came back with an error "System cant find specified files".

What am I doing wrong? thanks

[pornstar]

First of all, what movie are you trying to do?

The reason it is saying that it can't find the files is
because the first play PGC of the dvd is prolly set to
use the VOBs that you deleted to get rid of the 4:3 version
on the DVD.

Let us know what DVD you are doing and then we can further
assist you.

-p0rnstar

[bruce1271]

Movie is October sky.

I tried deleting both 4:3 and 16:9 and neither one would work without the other being present.

thanks

[TRILIGHT]

I've not done this title but, perhaps you should try removing the main VOB's of VTS_3 (Are you certain nothing in these files is needed??). However, LEAVE the .IFO, .BUP, and any *_0.VOB file. Then run your "Get VTS Sectors" and try it again. If you still have trouble, you might want to try changing your "first play" setting in the main IFO so that the disc starts somewhere that was not located in a VOB you removed.

[bruce1271]

How do I change the first play setting?

I am working on blow now and want to delete everything excpet the main movie. I know there are tutorials, but I have a prob figuring out which .vob has what and what to delete form where.

thanks

[TRILIGHT]

Doing a simple search on the forum revealed this from one of my previous posts...

open the VIDEO_TS.IFO, go to the VMGM_MAT section, then the First Play PGC listed there. You'll find the nav commands listed as "Pre Command" at the bottom. It's probably set to jump to the wrong PGC.

[bruce1271]

Thanks for the reply..I guess I really need to learn ifoedit to doanything good when burning DVD's.
I will give that a hack.


I have a new problem which i will search.

But here it is incase anyone wants to be a good sport and help.

I have "blow" and The movie is in VTS_1 title set. I deleted all other Title sets except VTS_1 and video_ts. I then hit Get VTS sectors and it changed from 7 to 1. I can play the DVD in ProDVD without a problem, but when I go to burn in nero OR make a disk image I get an invalid video_ts.ifo. Any clues?

thanks....I will go search now and see what I can find out..

[TRILIGHT]

You can't just go deleting a bunch of files and expect it to be ok. The best way I've found to explain it is that your VOB files are like big ZIP files. The IFO files give detailed instructions on how to access the different areas of those VOB files. You CANNOT arbitrarily delete files and not expect a problem to result from it. At the very least, you MUST keep the IFO, BUP and *_0.VOB files!

[bruce1271]

Then Why in the tutorial(deleting one of two formats) undr ifoedit does it say "The easiest part is deleting the movie. Just delete all vts_2_x files. Then click get vts sectors"

This tutorial should be changed then.

So how should one delete a movie? I am an engineer and I thought I would have no probs figuring out ifoedit and such, but apparently I am.

[TRILIGHT]

I can't speak about how other people do things. I can only tell you my opinion from my own experience, Bruce. If you find that there is a better way then feel free to share. There is no one way of doing things and everyone seems to have an opinion about what they feel does and does not work.

I've personally done a ton of movies but, of course, I also don't butcher them by just doing the main movie, etc. I make full backups. Now, in my experience, I have had trouble when trying to totally eliminate an entire VTS set. Not always, but I have. Therefore, I choose to leave the IFO, BUP, and *_0.VOB so that, in essence, the command structure still thinks it is there; thus eliminating any glitch I might run into.

As for being an engineer, I'm sure you're familiar with documentation and procedure. Pick one of the guides and follow it. You shouldn't have much trouble as most of the difficult stuff has been explained. If you get stuck on a certain step and cannot find the answer via searching then post your question and we'll be glad to answer it to the best of our ability.

[jrg]

if you just want the main movie, you can accomplish that by using the Full copy guide but dont use ifoupdate at the end. instead, just take the authored movie files from maestro and burn them with nero.

One thing that helped me get past a nero problem when i used ifoudate is to always choose the DVD-ROM [UDF/ISO] option from the 'new compilation' screen. It will burn it every time.


Trilight,

I too ran into Bruce's problem, thinking i could just delete the VTS's i did not want and using ifoupdate. On my newly burned disk of Time Machine, the movie works, but the menu is not available.

I am trying it again with just putting the BUP and IFO and VOB 0 files in.

One question for you, when burning the entire disk with extras, behind the scenes, etc... do you also reduce the size of the behind the scenes video?

[TRILIGHT]

Originally posted by jrg
One question for you, when burning the entire disk with extras, behind the scenes, etc... do you also reduce the size of the behind the scenes video?

I usually make this decision depending on the resulting available bits for my main video and also take into consideration the complexity of the extras. If it's a movie I don't care as much about and it's close, I'll just leave it to save myself some time. If it's one I like a bit more, I'll try to squeeze some more space by lowering the bitrate of the extras. Afterall, I'll be watching the movie more often than the extras anyway.

The biggest pain in the ass I've found with this is that a lot of times the extras are interlaced which requires me to run the decomb filter on them. This slows down my overall encoding time which just adds time to the whole project. Like I said, it's usually on a case by case basis with me. How much time I have, the quality I want, etc.

[bruce1271]

Well, I used my old method of ripping only the VTS_1_1 to VTS_1_x.vob(NOT VTS_01_0.vob)and the vts_1.ifo.

I then read this ifo into ifoedit and clicked on vob_extras and checked create_new.ifo's.

This gave me a video_ts.vob and video_ts.ifo which are very small ~80k. I then used these with the orginal .vob of the main movie and burned in nero. Works every time. My main problem is, I want the Menu If I have space.



A new Question...

On large movie's I demux a .ac3 and one .mpeg2 . I reencode the mpeg2 with rempeg.
After I use spruceup to put it together and burn. Everything works fine excpet I think the movie is "zoomed in". I think I am losing movie on the sides. I have a normal 4:3 TV. It appears worse on 16:9 movies.
Anyone come across this? How can I fix it?

Thanks again for all your help