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jamminj606
14th October 2002, 09:16
I recently installed a new hard drive and put windows xp on it. Everything works fine, but when I burn a dvd or do a full erase on a dvd-rw it gives me an error. It always fails right after initializing the disc. Anyone know what the deal might be? I aldeay installed the newest aspi drivers and went through the full list of windows updates. My system runs fine under windows 2000.

Here's my system setup:
epox8k7a
amd xp 2000+
2 hard drives on one ide cable
pioneer 104 as master on cable with a dvd-rom
nothing overclocked untill i get it working again...

alexnoe
14th October 2002, 14:51
Deactivate DMA for the DVD burner.

jamminj606
15th October 2002, 03:55
I tried disabling dma and went with pio mode 4 but it still wont burn a disc. Strangely, the full erase now works though.


Here's the error code in Primo:
"Error -10 at Sector 816 - Command:2A Sence:FF ASC:02 ASCQ:04"

Anyone else have any ideas? I'm on the verge of returning to win2000 very soon.

alexnoe
15th October 2002, 07:49
Then return to Win 2k. Win XP doesn't have any advantage anyway.

LIGHTNING UK!
15th October 2002, 17:15
I couldnt find an exact match for that status code, but I believe it to be something similar to 'No Seek Complete' which basically means is having a hard time focusing on the correct disc sector.
Is the disc scratched or anything? Does this happen with all discs?

jamminj606
15th October 2002, 20:18
I tried 2 new dvd-rw's and 2 dvd-r(riteks which are now in the trash). I'm going to try switching the burner to the secondary ide channel when my current download finishes. If that doesnt work, I'll be reformatting tonight.

Thanks for the suggestions from everyone.

vaylon
15th October 2002, 21:13
If your using Prassi primodvd,

go to the tools------------->options----------->general tab, set the speed to 1X, then set record, and verify every round. then close, restart and when your back up, check to make sure the 1X is still there.
if you set the speed in the full app window to 1X, sometimes that doesn't work, because for some reason it will still burn at what it wants to.
If you check your log file details you may see that the program is trying to burn the disc at 4X, 8X, or 16X. It wont tell you that untill after its made a coaster. If it gives the error codes right after it initializes and starts to burn (say from 1-20 mb). its a speed problem.

hope that helps.

klona
16th October 2002, 12:05
Buy Norton Ghost or any other tool to create an image of your full system partition

Then, format the full system parition and do a clean basic installation. Then just install your burning software, and test.

If it changed nothing, you can come back to your old system in less than 4 minutes. If it solve it (what is often the case with a clean install), you know what you have to do.

XP works without problem for me, and is a lot more reliable than 2K, at least for my use (24/7)

TRILIGHT
17th October 2002, 20:32
I have a 104 drive with XP and have not had any trouble since day 1. It's always worked great. I've also heard a lot of people say to switch to PIO mode. This just sounds insane to me but apparently it's some "workaround" from Pioneer tech support. I say it has something to do with an incompatibility with the chipset on the motherboard. I have an Asus P4B systemboard with a P4 1.4Ghz overclocked to 1.7Ghz with XP and have not had an issue at all running the drive at the faster default DMA mode.

alexnoe
17th October 2002, 21:14
My MS 6163 (iBX440 chipset) required the burner to run in PIO mode, while my new Aus P4B533-E can run it in DMA mode.

It can't only be the chipset. Some KT133A users have reported that DMA works, others need PIO.
Maybe it's mainly the mainboard which is important as to whether DMA works or not on this drive.

5150
20th October 2002, 16:37
I use an Abit KG7 mobo, it's an AMD760-VIA686B hybrid chipset, works flawlessly in WinXP with DMA on.

m3taPT
26th October 2002, 12:06
Originally posted by jamminj606
Here's the error code in Primo:
"Error -10 at Sector 816 - Command:2A Sence:FF ASC:02 ASCQ:04"

Anyone else have any ideas? I'm on the verge of returning to win2000 very soon.


this is a common error when one attempts to burn at 2X and the media only supports 1X (even though sometimes its supposed to burn at 2X)

dalemccl
1st November 2002, 04:02
I couldn't erase an -RW either with the 104 under XP. Tried Prassi, tried Nero. I tried changing the drive setting to PIO. Tried swapping IDE cables, tried a different IDE port. Still didn't work. Then I read somewhere that Pioneer doesn't recommend the use of the IDE cables meant for ATA66/100. I think they have 80 wires instead of 40. I had been using the ATA66/100 cables. I switched the drive to an old style ATA33 cable and all of a sudden the 104 could erase RW's. Not sure if was just coincidence, but if you are using an ATA66/100 cable you might try an ATA33 cable.

sarahjh69
1st November 2002, 15:55
I hope ur not trying to erase DVD-RW
with the version of nero that won't work with DVD-rw
(I think its v5.9.9.0 that doesn't like dvd-rw)

dalemccl
2nd November 2002, 02:42
>>I hope ur not trying to erase DVD-RW
with the version of nero that won't work with DVD-rw
(I think its v5.9.9.0 that doesn't like dvd-rw)<<

I am using 5.5.9.0 now. I don't remember what I was using when I had the problem. I no longer use Nero for DVD (just for CD) but it's good to be aware that there is a problem with one of the versions of Nero. Thanks for pointing it out.

sarahjh69
2nd November 2002, 21:22
it is 5.5.9.0 that don't work with
dvd-rw !