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Mancubas
4th November 2002, 23:49
Originally posted by Rickard
Splitted and ripped Blade 2 yesterday and buy adding that little pre command my preselected subtitles kicks in automaticly on both DVDs :)

Hi

Would you mind writing a mini guide on how you managed to turn off the subtitles on start up from both DVD's

Thx, in advance..

Drylook
5th November 2002, 01:28
Good job guys... It really works.:D
I found that you only need the precommand setting subs to 64.

I also found a way to set your default audio!
Just give the status 32768 to the audio stream you want to start by default (in PGC 1). Now just update your audio properties with the corrected info and don't forget to SAVE.

turner6
5th November 2002, 13:56
Mancubas,

here is your miniguide :

) Open the VTS_XX_0.ifo (your main movie).
If your main movie is in the VTS_01_0.ifo, open the VTS_01_0.
2) Check the second part of the ifo edit screen.
and check the value of the subpicture in the title set movie
(attributes) that you want to keep for example: id: 0x20 or
id: 0x21 .......
in most cases, 0x20 is the value for the English subtitles.
3) now click twice on the VTS_PGCITI (part one of the ifoedit
screen using the left button of your mouse).
4) Click on the last VTS_PGCx only once with the left button (mouse).
5) Now scroll down the second part of the ifoedit screen slowly
to check where where are located the precommand and cellcommand
values.

1st possibility: there are precommand in the description.

Place your cursor on the LAST PRECOMMAND (not the cell command).
Click with the right button of your mouse and choose
AddPrecommand.
You now see a new precommand with a NOP value.
Click once on the new precommand with the left button of your
mouse.
You see the following value: 0000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .....
Place your cursor on the first 00 value and change it with 51
Do you remember your subtitles value ?
If this one was 0x20 enter the value C0 in the 5th bytes, you should see the following values:
0000000 51 00 00 00 c0 00 00 00 ........
if the value was 0x21 enter c1 in the 5th bytes
0x22 enter c2
0x23 enter c3
0x24 enter c4
.....
Click on the save option and check the result.

2nd possibility: you don't have any precommand in the description.
Search for the text: there is no PGC Command Table.
Right click on the text (right button of your mouse) and choose
add precommand.
You now see a new precommand with a NOP value.
Click once on the new precommand with the left button of your
mouse.
You see the following value: 0000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .....
Place your cursor on the first 00 value and change it with 51
If this one was 0x20 enter the value C0 in the 5th bytes, you should see the following value
0000000 51 00 00 00 c0 00 00 00 ......
if the value was 0x21 enter c1 in the 5th bytes
0x22 enter c2
0x23 enter c3
0x24 enter c4
.....
Click on the save option and check the result.

Rickard
9th November 2002, 21:51
I'm not sure i really understand the way to get the right hex value when you get a high ID number. I ripped and stripped Spiderman and the Swedish subtitle ID is 0x31.

51 00 00 00 ?? 00 00 00

Can someone explain what to put in there and why?

turner6
9th November 2002, 23:07
I think you have to check the position of the subtitles;
let's say that you see the following subtitles available for a dvd :
subpicture 1 english: (2 bit-rle) x'021'
subpicture 2 german x'022'
subpicture 3 swedish (2 bit-rle) x'023'

If you want the FIRST subtitle (subpicture 1), its value is C0
if you want the SECOND subtitle (subpicture 2), its value is C1
if you want the THIRD subtitle (subpicture 3), its value is C2
....

It's a rule and there is a value assigned in hexa for each subtitle: C0 is assigned to the first subtitle, C1 to the following and on and on.

Rickard
10th November 2002, 09:40
I only have Swedish subtitles because i have already stripped out everything i dont need. As you can se in the picture below its only English audio and Swedish subtitles (ID: 0x31). If this id had been something like 0x2x i would have understand but i cant get it to work with thisone. Would be great if someone knew how to solve this. I'm sure its just mathematics?

http://w1.865.telia.com/~u86523428/subtitles.gif

Drylook
10th November 2002, 19:45
No Problem Rickard...

Just set as 51 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 and you'll have your Swedish subs on as default!:D

I do the same for Portuguese. It doesn't matter what's the ID code as long as they are the only ones there.

In fact there's a way to choose which you want by default for subs and for audio also...

Happy burning.:cool:

Rickard
10th November 2002, 21:45
:D :D :D :D It Works!!!!

It was IfoEdit v0.95 that made me think something was wrong. Take a look at this pic: http://w1.865.telia.com/~u86523428/ifoerror.gif

It is Collateral Damage stripped with only English audio and Swedish subtitles. I have added the pre command the usual way to make my prefered subtitles kick in automaticly. Strange that it shows different info??

Jaffo
16th November 2002, 04:36
For me the above method only selects the sub to be displayed, it does not actually turn the subs on. In version 0.95 of IfoEdit it displays (off) at the side of the SetSTN when selecting the subpicture stream command, does this mean the selected sub is off and not auto displayed?

TIA

sunlux
28th November 2002, 15:09
OK, but how set this subpicture to ON.

Please help

mpucoder
28th November 2002, 21:00
Turner6 has it right, IfoEdit0.95 is incorrect.
Here's a rundown of the values.
First, bit 7 of the byte must be set to indicate that the subpicture value (SPRM 2) is to be changed, so all values from 0x00 to 0x7f do nothing.

0x80 to 0x9F select subpicture 0 to 31, but OFF (can be turned on by user)
0xA0 to 0xBD are invalid
0xBE select NO subpicture
0xBF select subpicture 0 FORCED (ON and cannot be turned off by user)
0xC0 to 0xDF select subpicture 0 to 31, and ON (can be turned off by user)
0xE0 to 0xFF are invalid

sunlux
29th November 2002, 00:13
This work.

I'm happy.

You're great man.

mikegun
30th November 2002, 18:55
Originally posted by mpucoder

0x80 to 0x9F select subpicture 0 to 31, but OFF (can be turned on by user)
0xA0 to 0xBD are invalid
0xBE select NO subpicture
0xBF select subpicture 0 FORCED (ON and cannot be turned off by user)
0xC0 to 0xDF select subpicture 0 to 31, and ON (can be turned off by user)
0xE0 to 0xFF are invalid

hi,

I tried c0 on bit 7. the subs are displayed by default but I can not turn the subs off ?!?

regards, mike

p.s. forget about that, found user prohibition on that, lol

mpucoder
30th November 2002, 20:50
Huh? C0 on bit 7 - I do not understand what that means.

bit 7 is the most significant bit of the byte, and must be set in the byte for any change to take place. The SetSTN command can change any or all of the audio, subpicture, or angle values in use (stored in SPRM 1, 2, and 3 respectively).
In that command byte 3 is for audio, byte 4 is for subpicture, and byte 5 is for angle.
Byte 6 and 7 are not used.

GrandMstrBud
8th January 2003, 03:22
Could someone make up a guide on how to set default subtitles and how to set them from displaying automatically. I tried a few things from this forum and nothing worked. I will give it a try again and see what happens.

Damir Secki
18th January 2003, 17:54
Hello!

I ripped and split 6th sense. The stupid czech subtitles starts everytime by default.

I tryed to edit the pre command to 51 00 00 00 c1 00 00 (The english subtitles) but the czech subtitles starts every time! (even if I change to c2, c3 or whatever). Is it possible to turn them complitly off?

vikodin
14th March 2003, 20:45
Towards the beginning of this thread someone said "the only way I experienced so far is reauthoring. In DVDmaestro you have a bunch of options for that. You can choose the default audio and subtitles (on or off)." Can anyone provide more details? I have yet to see a simple checkbox to select the default audio and subs ... am I just using an older version of DVDMaestro?

Navellint
24th March 2003, 16:41
Originally posted by Damir Secki
Hello! the czech subtitles starts every time! (even if I change to c2, c3 or whatever). Is it possible to turn them complitly off? Can't you uncheck these subtitles in DVDdecrypter when you switch to stream processing and enable stream processing? Then go back to the beginning of this thread to get the other things right. Of course then you'll lose the subtitles completely.

GrandMstrBud
29th April 2003, 16:35
I hope this helps.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41829

LCJansen
13th November 2004, 20:40
Originally posted by FilipeAmadeuO
It works for me !!! But sometimes you got to try to put the (SetSTN) Set Subpicture Stream Nr and select number 32 in the first pre-comand.
Iīve done 2 movies (Moulin Rouge R2 and Top Gun R2) and in Moulin Rouge iīve put it in the end and works but in Top Gun it only works in the begining of pre-comand.
And you can also uso the POPīs to force the subtitle and donīt allow to change it.

The IFOEDIT is excelent. Every time i learn someting some .
Derrow keep on the good work. Youīre the man.

Felipe, preciso de ajuda. It is possible to add new subtitles without reauthor the entire dvd? Is this possible with IfoEdit, Menu Edit, or another software?

Please, someone help me!