dvdxcopy.com

[tommy001]

FAQ (their words not mine)

Now you can backup your favorite DVD movies with nothing more than a DVD burner and your home computer with DVDXCOPY software. There's no need to invest hundreds of dollars in replacing lost or damaged DVD discs. Not when DVDXCOPY lets you make backup copies of all your DVD movies using a standard DVD+R or DVD-R burner! Best of all, your copies will play on your home DVD player just like regular DVDs! (Most Newer DVD Players support DVDR or DVD RW)

• Easy "One-Click & You're Done" Software
• Copy most DVDs in about an hour
• Backup your entire DVD movie collection
• Copy Menus, Trailers, & Special Features
• Perfect DVD Video & Audio Quality
• Restore Scratched or Damaged DVDs
• Free Live Technical Support

http://www.dvdxcopy.com/

[titus]

Am interested to see to hear some feedback on this.

[jmonfm]

From what I gather on this web-site, it is not a DVD to DVD copy programme. It copies from DVD to VCD, so I'm not sure what they mean about no loss of quality etc. Maybe I've got it wrong - but $100 for converting a DVD to VCD seems expensive. :angry: I had such high hopes when I went on this site as well.

I'm not sure how they can say that there is no loss of quality, no compression and that most films will fit onto 1 disc (CD-R). Please correct me if I'm wrong as I really want this to work :confused:
Happy Ripping.

[wanderance]

Not when DVDXCOPY lets you make backup copies of all your DVD movies using a standard DVD+R or DVD-R burner!

It is ONLY for a DVD-R / +R

Nowhere does it say CD-R.

I am also very interested in this product. Even though there are various ways to accomplish this for free, there still isn't a "one click solution"

[jmonfm]

This is the page that I was refering to - tucked away from the opening page that says how wonderful the programme is. Worth a look at this link.
http://support.321studios.com/faqsupport.asp?Function=Category&ID=01

It's a pity - but I think they are having us on.
Happy Ripping.

[wanderance]

I think that is simply an error on their part. If you notice, that is the same "support" page they point you to for their other program "DVDCopyPlus". (Not sure if you call it a "program" since it is just directions on how to use freeware apps).

I am assuming since DVDXCOPY hasn't been released yet, they do not have support for it. If you view the FAQ, they explicitly state you need a DVD recordable drive in the minimum requirements.

I am just keeping my hopes up :)

[tumbar]

I am a member of the beta testing group. The general consensous is wondering if this will really be much better than ifoedit. Will let you know how it goes. Beta is suppose to release today, Oct 16th. First for sale version Oct. 28th. Might be intresting around version 1.2 or 1.3 just in time for christmas...lol

dvd x copy $100.00 VS Ifoedit FREE.....hhmmmm!

Read more about it and the discussion which has been going on the last few days. :confused:

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/3408.cfm

[TRILIGHT]

Why the hell has this thread not been closed, removed, and the poster given a strike for Rule #5??

By the way, back when I was STUPID, I bought into this sort of TOTAL BS and was thoroughly ANNOYED when I found out what it really was. DON'T buy into this bunk, people! This is NOT the way to go!

[wanderance]

Why the hell has this thread not been closed, removed, and the poster given a strike for Rule #5??

If you did a bit of research, you would find that it has a high chance of being a legit product, and not just repackaged or stolen freeware.

There are a couple of other forums discussing this product, and it appears to be what they say.

Time will only tell however, as the product hasn't been officially released yet.

[TRILIGHT]

A bit of research is not required. Just observation. This is the poster's very first post to the board and all they seem to have to say from their own perspective is "FAQ (their words not mine)"?? It's blatant advertising.

[Swede]

Originally posted by wanderance
If you did a bit of research, you would find that it has a high chance of being a legit product, and not just repackaged or stolen freeware.

There are a couple of other forums discussing this product, and it appears to be what they say.

Time will only tell however, as the product hasn't been officially released yet. I'm very sorry but this is like Father Christmas (Santa Claus, Jultomten or whatever), some day your folks will tell you that he's not real and there's no such thing as a free lunch.
I *don't* want to put you down but if YOU made some research you would find out that you can't (yet) put a 7 GB movie onto a +4GB DVD-+RW without sacrificing *something*. Pls, don't throw your hard earned money into this scam! 321studios has been around for a while, trying to get YOUR money for nothing, and your chicks for free (sorry Mark)

[wanderance]

I *don't* want to put you down but if YOU made some research you would find out that you can't (yet) put a 7 GB movie onto a +4GB DVD-+RW without sacrificing *something*.

You just proved my point, as you have obviously not looked into the product. They never claim to do this...

Their claim is to either simply backup a movie (dvd-5) or to split a movie onto 2 dvd-+r's (dvd-9). While this *can* be done with freeware, the big test is their claim of "one button simplicity".

Don't worry, I won't be buying the product, just a little annoyed at the blind arrogance around here. Heaven forbid one of the "gods" around here doesn't know something.

Oh, as I side note, you don't "make" research as you proclaim, you "perform" research.

[dvd2svcd]

The _advertising_ is from the same guys who's refered to in this thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24056

and in this thread:

http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88142&highlight=321studios

Read the above and be warned, those guys only do one thing and that's pulling elaborate scams. Don't say you (you as in everybody) weren't warned. :angry:

My guess is that they just ripped off another freeware system from one like these :

http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/
http://www.nongnu.org/dvdrtools/
http://dvd.chevelless230.com/dvdbackup.html
ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix/cdrecord/ProDVD/

Mind you all the above is FREE, and does not cost $100. (I haven't tried any of them I just made a google search).

[TRILIGHT]

As for research, I'm telling you from my OWN experience!! I *PAID* the damn money only to be horribly disappointed with what I ended up with. They are preying on the ignorance of people and duping them into believing they are getting this cool DVD copying software. Don't say I'm full of "blind ignorance" because I am speaking from experience. As Swede put it, there's no such thing as a free lunch. If something sounds "too good to be true" it usually is. I found this site shortly after and have been thankful ever since!

[Swede]

Originally posted by wanderance You just proved my point, as you have obviously not looked into the product. They never claim to do this...
Their claim is to either simply backup a movie (dvd-5) or to split a movie onto 2 dvd-+r's (dvd-9). While this *can* be done with freeware, the big test is their claim of "one button simplicity".

I had to re-read their page and yes, you're right, down in their FAQ they mention "Many DVD movies will fit onto one DVD disk, but on occasion, you will need/want to split the DVD onto two DVD+R disks."

But I dont think that's fair, compaired to their claim:
Step 1: Install DVDXCOPY on Computer
Step 2: Insert Blank DVD Disc
Step 3: Press COPY NOW to Backup DVD
on the frontpage.

Don't worry, I won't be buying the product, just a little annoyed at the blind arrogance around here. Heaven forbid one of the "gods" around here doesn't know something.If it would make you feel better I'll be the first one to admit that I don't know everything, I'm just annoyed with these companies trying to rip people off their money on freeware!

Oh, as I side note, you don't "make" research as you proclaim, you "perform" research.Sorry, lost you here, it must be a language barrier, I'm not sure what you mean.

[TRILIGHT]

Originally posted by Swede
Sorry, lost you here, it must be a language barrier, I'm not sure what you mean.

He's knocking you on your English, Swede. Hell, it's obvious that your from Sweden and English is a second language there. I doubt I could speak (much less type) your language as well as you do with English.

[tumbar]

Like I said yesterday, I'm part of the beta testing group, well I haven't gotten my email yet.

yesterday RHMoore, at 321studio, said the engineers needed 24 more hours to get the beta ready to launch.

Beleive me when I say most folks are skeptical, especially considering the last repackaged freeware product from 321studio.

We'll see.

[dvd2svcd]

Hell, I feel like making an easy dvd2dvd copy program too, and if I ever do, it will be freeware.

EDIT:
See what I found on afterdawn ( http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/8552 ) from the president of 321studios:
Also, I must point out the three technology initiatives we incorporate to discourage piracy and encourage fair use only. These are not unbreakable (neither is CSS) but to the extent that we are trying to reach a fair compromise and a sense of balance with the copyright laws, DVDXCOPY will include the following three anti-piracy measures:

1. Disclaimer in front of FBI warning indicating this is a backup/archival copy and is not to be sold or redistributed

2. Anti-copying technology using our software that will prevent a copy of a copy

3. Electronic watermark embedded in video stream. As long as the product is used for its intended purpose there will be no knowledge gained of legitimate copying. However, if a video stream is released into piracy mainstreams, the license of the DVDXCOPY product can be determined from this watermark and potentially, the original infringer could be identified. At the very least, the license will be deactivated for the DVDXCOPY product which will disable the product.

Again, these measures are not hack-proof, but neither is a door lock. It is important though to demonstrate to the community at large that we are willing to be reasonable so long as fair use is acknowledged and protected.So, first they say it is an identical copy and next they say they put in an invisibel watermark? Well, that just isn't possible without reenconding the dvd, and how should that be possible in just an hour.

I can only say SCAM SCAM SCAM :angry:

[wanderance]

First off, sorry if I came off as rude "Swede", just trying to help. For some reason if you correct someone around here, they assume you are being nasty about it. Everyone makes mistakes and I appreciate when people correct me.

There are a couple of issues as I see it.

With the DVDCopy program, it is obvious this person has just created an introdution and installer for multiple programs. If he has not gotten the proper agreements from those who wrote the programs in the first place, he needs to have the pants sued off of him. If he has, then more power to him. The key issue here isn't the selling of the programs themselves, it is the support that is costing people. A good example of this, is my dad and I were at Fry's the other day. He saw a boxed version of DVDCopy for $40. He read the front and was ready to buy the program right then and there. If I wasn't there to stop him, he would have walked out of the store with it. The problem is, is that such a bad thing? He would have gotten it home, installed the programs, and if he ran into any snags called the support number. Not sure how the support is, but assuming it is decent, he most likely would be happy with the purchase. My dad has neither the skill, nor patience to search out, and write in these types of forums. For people like us, this program is a rip off, plain and simple.

Now I am off to try out IFOedit to split some dvd's up :)

Oh, and DVD2SVCD, you ROCK! :cool:

[Mancubas]

Hi

I have just seen the below posted on CDFREAKS.COM website, this is a brillent scam if CDFREAKS have been pulled in.

What are peoples thoughts on this, is it still a scam.

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news2.php3?ID=4957


:D

[TRILIGHT]

They don't appear to have been "pulled in" to anything. Seems like they are just reporting information they heard about. Even then, it seems that someone else provided the info instead of them doing any journalistic investigation...

"xriddle used our newssubmit to tell us that 321 Studios has released their software DVDxCopy package."

[Mancubas]

Hi

What do think to this email that was sent me, sounds almost professional!!!

------------------------------------------------------------------
DVDXCopy will allow you to either remove unwanted information from the
copy, to save space, or it will allow you to span the DVD across two
disks.

This is up to you, and the settings that you choose in the DVDXCopy
program..

-----Original Message-----
From: mancubas@clara.co.uk [mailto:mancubas@clara.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 1:16 PM
To: Tech Support
Subject: Tech Support Form

Email=mancubas@clara.co.uk
OrderID=
Subject=Other
Problem=Hi

Can DVD x Copy split a DVD9 to 2x DVD5's?

If this is possible I will definatley consider buying this software.

-----UPDATE---------

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/8552

Please go to the above, looks like people are actually beta testing with good results, looking as thou it could be a proper program!!!

What do people think now.

[scimani2]

is there any update on this product now that it has been released? someone let me know!

[ratdog43]

Read the afterdawn forum. This is the real deal. Copies 90% of DVD's bit for bit.

[scimani2]

i wanna hear from someone who actually bought one before i buy mine...just my opinion

[Matthew]

Originally posted by ratdog43
Read the afterdawn forum. This is the real deal. Copies 90% of DVD's bit for bit.

:rolleyes:

Lets just assume for a moment this is not a scam (and the fact is that the claims just don't add up, e.g. the watermark issue mentioned by dvd2svcd).

Most dvds are dual layer. With current HARDWARE a bit for bit copy of these DVDs is impossible. It is not a software issue, it is a HARDWARE issue.

For DVD-5 you can just use DVD decryptor. For DVD-9 to DVD-5 CCE (or TMPGEnc, or Canopus) is the only choice for quality minded people. For DVD-9 to 2x DVD-5, well IFOedit will do that.

So even if this is legitimate, it won't be a patch on the doom9 methods, just like the non-scam commercial DVD to (S)VCD conversion programs are absolutely crap compared to DVD2SVCD.

[ratdog43]

It's on!

[scimani2]

what does that mean? it works? did you get it yet?

[ratdog43]

It is out tomorrow.

[orbit-r]

guys come on,these progs. are a bad joke...
just use dvd2svcd for making vcd`s and ifoedit for dvd...
:cool:

[ratdog43]

It's on like Donkey Kong!

[texasermd]

I just got the prog and used it to make a backup of Hardball today. Here are some thoughts:

1. I do not like the "DVD BACKUP" disclaimer at the beginning of the DVD. They appended this to the VIDEO_TS.VOB file so I am sure it can be disabled. I can understand the reasoning, though. Less trouble from the suits that stand to lose from this programs misuse.

2. I do like the "Put in Disc 2" or whatever it said at the end of the first disc.

3. I do not know about a watermark and will be interested to hear more about this.

4. The file size is almost exactly the same as with using DVD Decryptor and IfoEdit so, suprisingly, the video/sound appears to be the same.

5. They also place a little disclaimer text file in the root directory of the DVD which shouldn't be too dificult to circumvent.

6. It was actually very easy to use. I use a Lite-On DVD-ROM for a source and Lite-On DVD-R/W for the burner. I put the movie in, a blank twice, had to "OK" and "BURN" a few times and I have a perfect backup except for a little extra !@#$ they added to cover their behinds.

7. So, in the end, it does a good job at what it claims. Personally, I like to use DVD Decryptor and IfoEdit along with InstantCD+DVD to make my backups. It's a little more time consuming but I can pick and choose what I play, remove, etc. I hope Derrow keeps up the good work with his stuff (by the way I use DVD Split to gauge how much stuff will be on each DVD but then I close it and continue on with splitting/stripping in IfoEdit) but I haven't found a DVD I couldn't backup with my usual method. (OK, some Warner Brother DVD's gave me a problem at first until I decided to use another forum member's advice and make an image of the files on the split DVD and then burn with Nero, etc. Not sure what the diff is but it worked......;-/)

[waf1919]

I have heard good things about this program. How many people that are knocking it have actually used it? I just ordered one of the new Sony dual dvd writers. And I like the idea of having an all in one tool to makebackups. I'm not a PC Guru & it took me months to figure out dvd2svcd. I'm sure the makers of dvd2svcd have something up there sleeve for making dvd2dvd. lets hope so cause' dvd2svcd is a fantastic program and I'll still be making svcd backups. The quality is great & the price of cdr's is right. Will