CCE 2.66: better at Max Bitrate prob?

[Ewi]

Hi!

I'm using CCE 2.5 for around 10 movies. I had always out-of-SVCD-specs bitrates using the defaults. Some of them I never got SVCD compliant.

So my question: Are the CCE version after 2.5 (especially v2.66.02) better at the max bitrate problem? (If that is the fact I would accept the VFAPI speed down)

Is there an encoder (even with a lower quality) that produce guaranteed SVCD compliant streams? TMPG is bad at this, too.

[Fmazzanti]

I can't understand how you don't get SVCD compliant streams with CCE. I've been using it for *years* now and it has always worked for me...
Are you sure you're doing the process right?
Have you carefully read the guides?
Cheers...

[Ewi]

Are you really sure you checked your Max Bitrate after encoding with Bitrate Viewer or looked at the bbMPEG text output?

If this value is above ~2600 kbit your file is not compliant. In extreme cases you get over/underflows while muxing with bbMPEG.

Please read the tons of other post in this forum about this issue...


Remember: It's not a proof that you have SVCD compliant encodes when your standalone player works fine with it (others perhaps would not)

[Fmazzanti]

Yes, I'd say my SVCD's do not have max bitrate probs...
ALso DVD2SVCD has a couple of tabs where you can check that, if I'm not wrong. And you're right that some players will not accept certain kind of SVCD's, but that's another story. Not all standalones support SVCD's, and some of them offer only partial support. I've had three different players: Lawson,.Cyberhome and Marantz. Before purchasing them, I double-checked they where SVCD compliant... and all of them play just fine all movies I've encoded (Marantz being definitely the best)...

[UltimateDBZ]

As always, check out http://www.vcdhelp.com to see if your standalone will play SVCDs :)

[markrb]

In terms of DVD2SVCD using 2.66 doesn't really matter since 2.66 is not supported.

If you are using Bitrate viewer not everyone truly seems to trust that software. Some even believe it's dead wrong. I am no expert on this and cannot say, but it seems possible.

One of my DVD players is suppose to be able to play 2500 Kbit video and guess what it does with video made by CCE or TMPG. If I go above that it starts to show errors. Now it maybe that mine can handle the spikes that Bitrate viewer reports better then your player, but then again it might be that Bitrate viewer is dead wrong too.

Follow the advice of the others and check your player on the DVD player list at www.vcdhelp.com and make sure to read the comments and not just read the given specs. Often times the specs given as misleading.

Lastly you can always drop your max bitrate some. I doubt you would even be able to tell the difference.

Mark

[Ewi]

2x CD Speed was the factor that unfluenced the Max Bitrate specs for SVCD. This must not go above 2788000 Bit per second at any frame. This is Video + Audio.

Most people own players that are DVD players able to play SVCD too. Most of them play SVCDs with higher Bitrates fine (at its core DVD is SVCD with higher bitrates plus some other stuff). But some play jerky. Thats not a fault by the player. If it says it's SVCD compliant it only has to play fine til 2788000 bps. And for these players it's essential to keep the video max bitrate under ~2600 bps (cause of the audio bitrate); and TMPG and CCE does not keep it that low (if you don't trust bitrate viewer then trust in bbmpeg, our must in muxing mpeg2 files).

So my hope was that CCE 2.66 is better at this. But now you say that it's not supported in DVD2SVCD. I'm not up to date with this but CCE 2.6 was supported for sure(via VFAPI).

So whats the deal now?

Thank you...

[markrb]

2.62 and, to a somewhat flaky degree with some people, 2.64 are both supported(framserved via VFAPI).
2.66 changed the way the files are used and will not work.
From what I understand basically 2.66 went back to the way 2.50 worked, but there is some incompatability.
There is a thread on some people trying to hack DVD2SVCD to get it to work without success in the advanced forum. If you are interested you may want to ckeck it out.

Mark

[Ewi]

Oh, OK.

Thank you...